Handbrake Video motion choppy

[maverickluke]

Here is what I am attempting to do with a 4 hour 51 min. m2ts file which is 33.5GB. I want to convert it to mkv and preserve the quality as much to lossless as possible. I have attempted to do this twice with handbrake where both times the video comes out choppy and doesn't "flow" with smooth motion. I checked the file with Mediainfo and here is some information: I believe it is interlaced because Mediainfo is showing scan type: Interlaced. What am I doing wrong and what settings should I have?

The settings I had were: Video Constant quality RF 20, Ref. Frames and Max B-frames: 8, Adaptive B-frames = Optimal, Adaptive Direct Mode = Spatial, Motion Est. Method = Uneven Multi-Hexagon, Subpixel Motion Est. = 10:QPRD In All Frames, Motion Est Range = 64, Partition Type = All, Trellis = Always. I also set Trellis=2 in the x264 encoder options window at the bottom. For Filters, the only thing I set was Decomb to Bob. Detelecine, Deinterlace, Denoise, and Deblock all OFF. I am not sure if the Picture settings are important, but I left it alone.

I really want to get this right, because each time encoding takes 20-26 hours of time to encode and that is with a Windows 7 PC with an Intel 17-4770 3.50 GHz Processor and 16GB of RAM. Thank you for your help in advance.

[poisondeathray]

Post the mediainfo report on the output file (view=>text) copy & paste the results back here. If "bob" worked correctly (assuming your source files had interlaced content), you should have a 59.94 fps progressive output file. You can encode "interlaced" (actually MBAFF) with handbrake, but you need to use the commandline and the nightly builds , I don't think "interlaced" is exposed option in the normal GUI

The other option that sometimes causes problems is "VFR". If you set it to "CFR" constant frame rate, it usually causes fewer problems.

You can also use faster handbrake settings, and/or do mini tests on shorter segments until you have it figured out

[maverickluke]

Here is the MediInfo report. I don't consider myself to be very knowledgeable about all of this so I do not know what you mean by MBAFF and using commandline and the nightly build.

Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 33.5 GiB
Duration : 4h 51mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 16.4 Mbps

Video #1
ID : 1984 (0x7C0)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Format settings, picture structure : Frame
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 20.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Video #2
ID : 2304 (0x900)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 7 000 Kbps
Width : 528 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio #1
ID : 1985 (0x7C1)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -299ms
Stream size : 802 MiB (2%)
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 2305 (0x901)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -17h 9mn
Stream size : 401 MiB (1%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 1984 (0x7C0)-CC1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID : 1984 (0x7C0)-1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-708
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #3
ID : 1984 (0x7C0)-2
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-708
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 4h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #4
ID : 2304 (0x900)-CC1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #2
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #5
ID : 2304 (0x900)-CC1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : SCTE 20
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #2
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

[poisondeathray]

What is the source content? Where is it from ? e.g. is it a theatrical movie ? sports ?

[dfisher052]

Check to make sure the framerate is the same as the original. I have found that if it is not the resulting video will appear to be choppy.

[poisondeathray]

The content question is important. If it was a move or theatrical presentation you would inverse telecine (detelecine in handbrake), or it would be jerky (every 5th frame repeated).

If it's interlaced content (mediainfo can't tell you this), and you encode progressive, if you end up with the same frame rate, motion won't be smooth either (you throw away 1/2 the information). You would have to "bob deinterlace" to end up with progressive 59.94 to keep the motion. The other option is to do no processing and encode it interlaced specifically, like the original (that's not optimal if you have progressive content)

[maverickluke]

This was the final yankee home game for Derek Jeter over 4 hours long. I recorded it from an HD channel on to my computer. I have the activity log for Handbrake, and there seems to be a lot of errors. I am pretty much a novice to all of this so I don't understand what all this means and am not sure if this is significant, but I can tell you that the .m2ts file plays fine with VLC. The video motion is smooth and it is just like watching it on my TV. I posted my Handbrake log on a Paste site. Here is the link to the Handbrake log.

http://pastebay.net/1529733

[poisondeathray]

I don't really use handbrake much, but that does look like a lot of errors.

You can try another tool instead of handbrake (e.g. ripbot, megui), or maybe try fixing it first with something like videoredo's quickstream fix, or tsdoctor

[hello_hello]

If poisondeathray's suggestions don't work, try uploading a sample. You can split off a section with tsmuxer.
Don't forget, Handbrake lets you select a section of the video to encode, by chapter or by time or frame number, I think. There's no need to encode to encode the entire video to run test encodes.

[maverickluke]

Just an update....Videoredo did the trick. I used it to fix the m2ts file then used Handbrake to convewrt to mkv and mp4 with no problems. Thanks again for the great help!