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    When I burn a movie to dvd, it freezes several times throughout the movie. I use Windows Vista, Intel Pentium Dual CPU, 3GB Ram, 250 GB HDD. This is how I burn it:
    1. Verbatim DVD+R
    2. ConvertXtoDVD
    3. Burn at speeds 4 or 6

    HELP!!!!!!!
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    Is that a Verbatim AZO disc, or is it one of the "Life Series" discs sold under the Verbatim brand? The Life Series are plain CMC Magnetics mid code. You can check the mid code in ImgBurn (which is highly recommended for all your burns by the way).

    After installing ImgBurn and putting the disc in your drive, start ImgBurn and click on Discovery. The mid code will show up on the right side of the main window. A Verbatim with AZO dye will have a mid code that starts with MCC.

    Assuming you have good discs, you could try outputting to the hard drive, then burning with ImgBurn. I doubt this will help much, but is something to try.

    What are you using for playback? A standalone player or a software player on the computer? You might try playing on the computer using Media Player Classic Home Cinema. I would do this with the output files on the hard drive also, just to make sure you're not getting glitches encoded into the DVD-video by ConvertX.

    If the disc plays well on your computer, but not from a standalone player you might have to clean the player.
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  3. Originally Posted by msxrs View Post
    When I burn a movie to dvd, it freezes several times throughout the movie. I use Windows Vista, Intel Pentium Dual CPU, 3GB Ram, 250 GB HDD. This is how I burn it:
    1. Verbatim DVD+R
    2. ConvertXtoDVD
    3. Burn at speeds 4 or 6

    HELP!!!!!!!

    Video Freezes USUALLY when you burn to much info into the blank DVD as it burn all the way to the edge of the disc. (From Inside --> out)

    Solution:
    - You need to compress the .vob file to make the ISO file fit better in with out been "too tuck in". [At around 4,420MB's to 4,430MB's for a DVD-5 4.7GB]
    - Your PC or OS have noting to do with it.
    - Verbatim are great, AZO are the best and also -R are even better that +R
    - Burn at half of the speed that the blank disc say: (8x)
    - Use ImgBurn (DVD-Decrypter or even Nero) to burn.

    Good Luck.
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    A DVD-5 holds about 4.37GB, but there is nothing from the OP that states the size of their file. You can burn very close to the edge of a good brand of DVD blank, I do it all the time.

    With a crappy DVD blank, you may have a problem with doing that. And you may also need to slow the burn speed down. But the better solution is not to use crappy media.

    I would also try a different DVD player if you haven't. Generally ConvertXtoDVD does a decent job of creating DVDs.
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    Pc, disc, software, source and the questionable home player can be part of the problem

    When in doubt start with the 3 basic rules:

    1: Never max burn a disc
    2: Never max fill a disc to capacity
    3: Use only dvd-r

    Report back results.
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  6. Originally Posted by Bjs View Post
    ...doubt start with the 3 basic rules:

    1: Never max burn a disc
    2: Never max fill a disc to capacity
    3: Use only dvd-r
    Agree with you a 100%
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    I disagree if you have a verbatim mcc dvd+r,Using any generic dvd-r is a crap shoot.
    I think,therefore i am a hamster.
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  8. Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    I disagree if you have a verbatim mcc dvd+r,Using any generic dvd-r is a crap shoot.
    We was talking about Verbatim -R over the +R
    -R are superior: On any category or even "probably" any brand too.

    I had use Verbatim for the last 10+ years, burning 20K+ blank disc's.
    ...just for my own small collection.
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    I rather use verbatim +r over -r any day but I've moved onto verbatim blu-ray long time ago.
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  10. Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    I rather use verbatim +r over -r any day but I've moved onto verbatim blu-ray long time ago.
    I still using Blank's DVD's to burn Blu-Ray rips as a DVD-Data that plays on Blu-Ray players to save $$$.
    With -R's I also save 50%+ on coasters in compare to the +R's.

    In the last 3 years: 0 coasters.
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  11. I used to do a lot of DVD burning, mostly to Verbatim single layer discs, while regularly checking burn quality. I think the quality tended to be a fraction higher on average for DVD-R than DVD+R, but it probably comes down to the burner being used. It wasn't the sort of difference that'd put me off buying DVD+R though.

    msxrs hasn't specified the burner or player being used, but some players are fairly fussy and some burners aren't too good, and the combination of low quality burns and a drive which isn't good at reading low quality discs will cause freezes etc.

    If you don't have a burner (and software) capable of checking burn quality, one rough method is to copy the burned files back to your hard drive. Ideally the DVD drive will start off at a particular speed and slowly increase until all the files a copied. If you can hear it constantly speeding up and slowing down it's a pretty good sign the burn quality wasn't good and even the burner is having trouble reading the discs.
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    Thanks for the suggestions. I've been using ConvertXtoDVD so long, and it's been great, but lately everything I burn freezes, so I'm going to try and compress a movie with Handbreak, and then burn it this weekend. I'll post the results.
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    DVD-R sure as hell are NOT superior to DVD+R, but in all practical terms, unless you have some ancient POS DVD player from 10 years and you're too cheap to buy anything more recent, no modern DVD or BluRay player cares even a little bit whether you use -R or +R. A decade ago the -R discs barely had better compatibility than +R on random players, like 1-2% better. There was never any situation of "Most players out there won't play DVD+R". And if you want to look it up, there's an old report on why +R is superior. It has to do with how tracks get written and wobble. In practical terms it doesn't really make any difference, but a decade ago a few nut jobs were convinced that -R was 100% crap. The truth is that the +R spec was a lot better thought out and developed than the -R spec and this really shows itself when dealing with DL and RW DVD discs. For a few years there was a kind of pissing war between the DVD Alliance (the +R guys) and the DVD Forum (the -R guys) and technically - IN THE PAST NOT TODAY - there was a time when +R discs technically fell outside of the DVD spec, so if players refused to play them, the manufacturers could argue that you HAD to use DVD-R because they were in spec. But that finally changed and it's not true any more. DVD+R discs, including RW and DL, are fully compliant with the spec now. Basically the DVD Forum changed the spec. So again, any non-ancient player will not care whether you use -R or +R and will happily support both.

    As others have stated, high quality discs can be burned close to capacity. I think it's good advice to avoid this, but if you must, it can be done successfully. I'd think that the OP is likely either using Verbatim's cheap Life series of discs or his burner or playback device are going bad.
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    Originally Posted by jman98 View Post
    DVD-R sure as hell are NOT superior to DVD+R,
    Thank you!!!
    Along with the rest of your post.
    And the fact that +R can have the booktype set to DVD-ROM to play on players that even -R won't play on,
    granted it is rarer than rare now a days, but still one factor that always moved me more towards +R since
    the early days.

    I was just looking at all the new replies to this thread and that was the first thing I thought,
    Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec View Post
    We was talking about Verbatim -R over the +R
    -R are superior:
    WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

    Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec View Post
    I still using Blank's DVD's to burn Blu-Ray rips as a DVD-Data that plays on Blu-Ray players to save $$$.
    With -R's I also save 50%+ on coasters in compare to the +R's
    First off, it is obvious you have no clue what a "RIP" actually is because you could never fit a "rip" of a Bluray onto any DVDR.

    You obviously do not have that much experience or knowledge of which you speak of.......
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  15. Originally Posted by jman98 View Post
    DVD-R sure as hell are NOT superior to DVD+R, but in all practical terms, unless you have some ancient POS DVD player from 10 years and you're too cheap to buy anything more recent, no modern DVD or BluRay player cares even a little bit whether you use -R or +R. A decade ago the -R discs barely had better compatibility than +R on random players, like 1-2% better. There was never any situation of "Most players out there won't play DVD+R". And if you want to look it up, there's an old report on why +R is superior. It has to do with how tracks get written and wobble. In practical terms it doesn't really make any difference, but a decade ago a few nut jobs were convinced that -R was 100% crap. The truth is that the +R spec was a lot better thought out and developed than the -R spec and this really shows itself when dealing with DL and RW DVD discs. For a few years there was a kind of pissing war between the DVD Alliance (the +R guys) and the DVD Forum (the -R guys) and technically - IN THE PAST NOT TODAY - there was a time when +R discs technically fell outside of the DVD spec, so if players refused to play them, the manufacturers could argue that you HAD to use DVD-R because they were in spec. But that finally changed and it's not true any more. DVD+R discs, including RW and DL, are fully compliant with the spec now. Basically the DVD Forum changed the spec. So again, any non-ancient player will not care whether you use -R or +R and will happily support both.

    As others have stated, high quality discs can be burned close to capacity. I think it's good advice to avoid this, but if you must, it can be done successfully. I'd think that the OP is likely either using Verbatim's cheap Life series of discs or his burner or playback device are going bad.

    The +R & -R arguments are been around for more that an decade.

    My point is:
    How do you explain that:
    1.- I hardly had any coaster with DVD-R. While the +R keep falling more often that the -R.
    2.- Some players don't play +R in special the older ones. (Maybe on pour countries DVD-Players even today, perhaps )
    3.- I had lost Movies burn on +R ( diff. brands ) made them 10 years ago or so. While non movies have been "erase = Gone" on those burn on -R dics.

    ???

    Now on the another side of the coin:
    Technically by the creators and supporters of the +R. Maybe a +R "print" is superior that the -R ( What else they can say !? )

    NOTE:
    As long I keep having better results with the -R.
    That's it:
    -R always gonna be my first choose.

    Just saying.
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    Hint -- Most of us made our peace with the - and + arguments years ago. Let it rest.
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    #1 - you likely are using BETTER media for the -R than the +R (this can happen even within brands), or your particular burner is more optimized for -R vs. +R. Burners/Recorders are always more complicated (and thus finicky) than Readers/Players.

    #2 Yes, this has already been discussed. Get a newer player - they're cheap!

    #3 Again, this sounds media-quality-related. ALL, I repeat - ALL media will deteriorate with time. How much depends greatly on the quality, and on the environmental factors (rough handling/storing, excessive heat/cold, etc).

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    And most of us are "just saying" you cannot make a blanket statement like that for everyone, as YMMV.

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  18. Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    #1 - you likely are using BETTER media for the -R than the +R (this can happen even within brands), or your particular burner is more optimized for -R vs. +R. Burners/Recorders are always more complicated (and thus finicky) than Readers/Players.

    #2 Yes, this has already been discussed. Get a newer player - they're cheap!

    #3 Again, this sounds media-quality-related. ALL, I repeat - ALL media will deteriorate with time. How much depends greatly on the quality, and on the environmental factors (rough handling/storing, excessive heat/cold, etc).

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    And most of us are "just saying" you cannot make a blanket statement like that for everyone, as YMMV.

    Scott
    Yeah I know:
    I when overboard by saying -R are superior! It hurt many people feelings. My fall.

    - I had use Verbatim only for the last 7 years.
    - Burning on 5 diff. computers (Laptops)
    - I have stand alone players too. (Sony, Denon, Pioneer, etc.) & Tascam for recording my mixes (Video - Music)
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  19. Originally Posted by Noahtuck View Post
    ...you could never fit a "rip" of a Bluray onto any DVDR.
    But:
    The .mkv file fit just about right into a DL- DVD disc, with out almost losing any quality (Movie Only)

    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0qbGy_4P0
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGniceJXhjk
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    Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec View Post
    Originally Posted by Noahtuck View Post
    ...you could never fit a "rip" of a Bluray onto any DVDR.
    But:
    The .mkv file fit just about right into a DL- DVD disc, with out losing quality (Movie Only)

    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0qbGy_4P0
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGniceJXhjk
    The smallest commercially made Blu-ray movie in my collection is about 18GB. Movie only is still approximately 16GB. Want to tell me how to fit that onto a 7.95GB DL DVD without compression?
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  21. Originally Posted by Kerry56 View Post
    Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec View Post
    Originally Posted by Noahtuck View Post
    ...you could never fit a "rip" of a Bluray onto any DVDR.
    But:
    The .mkv file fit just about right into a DL- DVD disc, with out losing quality (Movie Only)

    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0qbGy_4P0
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGniceJXhjk
    The smallest commercially made Blu-ray movie in my collection is about 18GB. Movie only is still approximately 16GB. Want to tell me how to fit that onto a 7.95GB DL DVD without compression?
    Burn your rip .mkv file into a DL DVD with ImgBurn as DVD-ROM. It will play on some ( High end ) Blu-Ray players for better enjoyment.

    Tayo will be your better option for this, that Verbatim.
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    Did you completely misunderstand the question? Good grief.

    You CANNOT put 16GB of data onto a 7.95GB DL DVD! Not without compressing the data, in this case a movie. And yes, I am completely conversant on the process of compressing Blu-ray movies, but you claim this can be done "without losing quality". Which is utter bullshit.

    You're not talking to noobs in here. We don't tolerate incorrect statements from people pretending to know these subjects.
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    I concur.

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    I don't think he misunderstood the question, I don't think he has a clue what you're talking about. 16G onto a 7G disc. He probably uses some crap software that is an all in one and it tells him there was no quality loss.

    your rip .mkv file
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  25. I probably type to fast when I say "No Compression"
    - http://www.dvdfab.cn/bdshrink.htm

    What I try to say was;
    - While you burn a .mkv into a DL DVD as ROM in stead of Video, You compensate the compression: watching your DVD on 1080 in stead of 480 as NTSC or 576 as PAL.
    - Also save some $ buy no burning Blank Blu-Ray disc's. Unless you try to squeeze the "2K" or "4K" out of it. [1:1]

    I am using the same programs that everybody else (No all in one as the only one) & also manipulating the files in a diff. way.

    Tell me if I am wrong.
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    While you burn a .mkv into a DL DVD as ROM in stead of Video, You compensate the compression
    Huh?


    Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec View Post
    Also save some $ buy no burning Blank Blu-Ray disc's.
    Price/GB for BD-R25 is actually lower than DVD-DL nowadays. You've seem to have been living under a rock for the last 5 years.
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    Actually I would've said WTF? But I agree with your theory on what he said
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  28. Originally Posted by Groucho2004 View Post
    Price/GB for BD-R25 is actually lower than DVD-DL nowadays.
    I pay $30- for a 50 Disc DL-DVD+R spindle, since I go true them very fast. via partner of mine.
    Price is low for us 'cos they are about to be discontinue.

    Q1:
    Are you want me to buy from Amazon like most !?
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    Let us try to put this to rest

    DJ_ValBec --- Do you have a clue about what your talking about?
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    Originally Posted by DJ_ValBec View Post
    Originally Posted by Groucho2004 View Post
    Price/GB for BD-R25 is actually lower than DVD-DL nowadays.
    I pay $30- for a 50 Disc DL-DVD+R spindle, since I go true them very fast. via partner of mine.
    Price is low for us 'cos they are about to be discontinue.

    Q1:
    Are you want me to buy from Amazon like most !?
    If you are using an online translation service, it's a really bad one. Most of your replies are rather bizarre and seem to indicate that you don't understand what people here are trying to communicate.
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