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    Is it possible for the DVD video standard to display HD content? I thought DVD was only 480p.

    I ask because there are DVD sets going around these days that claim to be in full HD. I'm wondering if they really are in 720p/1080p HD, or if the video was just cleaned up/improved from past releases, and they're just saying its in "High-Definition" but its not really.
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  2. DVD-Video playable in "regular" NTSC DVD Players is limited to 480 (576 for PAL), and always has been

    But you can put HD content on DVD5/9 media either as a data disc , or authored as an AVCHD disc that can play in many blu-ray players . These won't play in "regular" DVD players
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    Post a link to some of these standard dvd's that claim to be HD.
    They can't be legit or something is being misinterpreted.
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  4. Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    Is it possible for the DVD video standard to display HD content?
    No, but it's possible and very common for it to be upscaled to 1080p for display on an HDTV. So, my guess is you misunderstood what was being claimed.
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    Dragonball Z DVD sets. Claims to be in High-Definition:
    http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Season-Garlic-Android/dp/B0010X8NMS

    Transformers - The complete series:
    http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Complete-Series-Peter-Cullen/dp/B004NJC0JI

    ^^ Now with transformers i can't find anything that says its in HD but, its the only G1 collection i can find, and i've seen 1080p clips on youtube that look great:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXzvE3I39t8
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    Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    Dragonball Z DVD sets. Claims to be in High-Definition:
    http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Season-Garlic-Android/dp/B0010X8NMS
    It doesn't, it says remastered in high definition and apparently there are blu ray version of this available but a DVD is not high definition.
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  7. Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    Dragonball Z DVD sets. Claims to be in High-Definition:
    No, it doesn't.
    ...and i've seen 1080p clips on youtube that look great:
    Unless there's a Blu-Ray out of it, he just upscaled the DVD.
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    When something is remastered, that means that instead of transferring from Film->Video and saving an SD version, they have transferred from Film->Video and saved an HD version FROM WHICH THEY HAVE DERIVED AN SD COPY.

    In either instance, what you have is an SD DVD just like you always would/will have. The difference is that remastering in HD (or higher, e.g. 4k) allows for further refinement down the road, as well as another chance to "get it right" (or get it wrong/worse). Also, because the transfer was first done at High Rez and then digitally downconverted (instead of optically, or electronically in analog) there is much more control over the parameters that maintain the highest color purity, dynamic range/contrast, and bitrate efficiency. That is the ONLY difference.

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    Originally Posted by newpball View Post
    Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    Dragonball Z DVD sets. Claims to be in High-Definition:
    http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Season-Garlic-Android/dp/B0010X8NMS
    It doesn't, it says remastered in high definition and apparently there are blu ray version of this available but a DVD is not high definition.

    The other day i found the exact same DVD set i linked to in store, and on the back it claimed, and i quote: "Remastered in High-Definition and digitally restored".

    Its not talking about Blu-ray releases, this is the back of the DVD-only box set.
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    When something is remastered, that means that instead of transferring from Film->Video and saving an SD version, they have transferred from Film->Video and saved an HD version FROM WHICH THEY HAVE DERIVED AN SD COPY.

    In either instance, what you have is an SD DVD just like you always would/will have. The difference is that remastering in HD (or higher, e.g. 4k) allows for further refinement down the road, as well as another chance to "get it right" (or get it wrong/worse). Also, because the transfer was first done at High Rez and then digitally downconverted (instead of optically, or electronically in analog) there is much more control over the parameters that maintain the highest color purity, dynamic range/contrast, and bitrate efficiency. That is the ONLY difference.

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    So just to be clear, its not possible for the DVD-Video standard to have true HD video? Only SD?
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    Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
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    Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    Dragonball Z DVD sets. Claims to be in High-Definition:
    http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Season-Garlic-Android/dp/B0010X8NMS
    It doesn't, it says remastered in high definition and apparently there are blu ray version of this available but a DVD is not high definition.

    The other day i found the exact same DVD set i linked to in store, and on the back it claimed, and i quote: "Remastered in High-Definition and digitally restored".

    Its not talking about Blu-rays, this is the back of the DVD-only box set.
    Yes and?

    Do you perhaps also buy digital vinyl because it was digitally remastered?

    Are you actually listening?
    I mean people tell you here that standard DVDs cannot hold high definition video.
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    Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    So just to be clear, its not possible for the DVD-Video standard to have true HD video? Only SD?
    Absolutely 100%!!

    https://www.videohelp.com/dvd#tech
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  13. Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    The other day i found the exact same DVD set i linked to in store, and on the back it claimed, and i quote: "Remastered in High-Definition and digitally restored".

    Its not talking about Blu-ray releases, this is the back of the DVD-only box set.
    And if you reread what Cornucopia wrote he already explained to you what it meant:

    The first time the made a DVD they took the film and scanned it to SD resolution for DVD authoring, what they have done for this release is scan the film at a higher resolution, typically 4k DCI or 2k DCI, do some "restoration" like color correction, and then use that to create both the BD and DVD versions for consumers.

    In theory, this results in a cleaner transfer and thus higher quality DVD than the original, but there are so many factors that there are times that there's little benefit at all.
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    @newpball, as an owner of the digitally recorded & mixed & 1/2 speed mastered vinyl pressing of Ry Cooder's Bop Til You Drop, I can confidently say that it is clearly and undeniably head and shoulders above the quality of a normal vinyl pressing of it. Yet it is below the quality of an SACD copy, or even an oversampled & superbit dithered CD.
    So that analogy is a bit incomplete - remastering can often improve the existing quality of a certain format, but is no substitute for a new, improved format (probably being the reason for the remaster in the first place).

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    @newpball, as an owner of the digitally recorded & mixed & 1/2 speed mastered vinyl pressing of Ry Cooder's Bop Til You Drop, I can confidently say that it is clearly and undeniably head and shoulders above the quality of a normal vinyl pressing of it. Yet it is below the quality of an SACD copy, or even an oversampled & superbit dithered CD.
    So that analogy is a bit incomplete - remastering can often improve the existing quality of a certain format, but is no substitute for a new, improved format (probably being the reason for the remaster in the first place).
    Agreed, my point was that even if it is digitally remastered it won't be digital in the vinyl just as a movie digitally remastered in HD won't be HD if put on a DVD.
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    Originally Posted by Noahtuck View Post

    Ok cool. Thats not the only DVD set i've seen lately that claims "high-definition" also. Just needed to be sure.

    I haven't been keeping up on things in a good 4-5 years.
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  17. Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    Thats not the only DVD set i've seen lately that claims "high-definition" also.
    It claimed no such thing. You just didn't understand what you read. But you do now so you shouldn't still be saying those silly things.
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    Originally Posted by manono View Post
    It claimed no such thing. You just didn't understand what you read. But you do now so you shouldn't still be saying those silly things.

    Nope. Its an understandable mistake when the back of the box advertises its content as High-definition in some manner, regardless of the wording.

    So evidently when a DVD box these days lists "high-definition" among its selling points, they're just embellishing the truth. The actual DVD won't be in HD.

    Ok, I get it now.

    Eat it.
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    Originally Posted by Super Warrior View Post
    So evidently when a DVD box these days lists "high-definition" among its selling points, they're just embellishing the truth. The actual DVD won't be in HD.
    I tend to agree with this.
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  20. "Remastered in High-Definition and digitally restored" isn't by any stretch of the imagination false advertising to get the ignorant or unwary to think the content is hi-def.
    Its an understandable mistake when the back of the box advertises its content as High-definition in some manner...
    In no manner did it advertise the content as being hi-def, and being a long-time member here you should have known better than to even open a thread like this one saying there are DVD sets claiming to be hi-def.
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    The fault is the consumers' misunderstanding of such terms as "mastered" (though this may be promulgated by advertisers, but still - they're ADVERTISERS for goodness sake! Caveat emptor).

    Sample from simple wikipedia check on something like "audio mastering" (easier to find than video/film mastering for some reason).
    Mastering, a form of audio post-production, is the process of preparing and transferring recorded audio from a source containing the final mix to a data storage device (the master); the source from which all copies will be produced (via methods such as pressing, duplication or replication). Recently digital masters have become usual although analog masters, such as audio tapes, are still being used by the manufacturing industry, notably by a few engineers who have chosen to specialize in analog mastering.
    You don't get to own a "master" unless you were the creator of the material (or own the production/distribution company that facilitates it). You get to own a COPY. Does it say anywhere "HD copy" or "copied in high def" or anything like that?

    So, yeah, maybe you have to eat it. And learn from it.

    If it says "DVD-Video", it is and can ONLY be, Standard Definition. You want high definition? - that's what HD-DVD and Blu-ray are for.
    If you still don't believe it, read "What is DVD?" link above. The OP's question was answered in post #2.

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