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    I am thinking to get a bluray writer (probably an LG BH16NS40) in order to burn large files that I currently split and burn on multiple DVD+R discs. However, from what I read it might not be a good idea to use LTH BD-R discs for this purpose and the more expensive HTL BD-R discs are more difficult to find. I also backup to HDD, but I want to have a second copy on optical media. Any advice?
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    Panasonic BD-R media had the best outcome of any BD-R media in independent testing, but it is indeed expensive. http://club.myce.com/f33/french-study-bd-r-archival-329441/

    Verbatim HTL BD-R media burns well but did poorly in the above study.

    If good HTL media too hard to find or too expensive, then multiple backups on multiple hard drives are your only good option.
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    I have burned hundreds of the Verbatims and never had an issue, no coasters. I would have no problem recommending them. Amazon regularly has sales wear you can get 25 pks for $25. I have also tried the LTH and they work fine for me with my Pioneer BDR205 and play just fine on my old panny standalone. I think the issue is more with the player not liking them. I would think at this point most would have a firmware update to make them compatible, but I would do a search of your unit to double check.
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    I do not worry about coasters as most new bluray writers are compatible with LTH. I do worry about discs failing after burning and storing for some time.
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    I use my BD writers almost exclusively for BD data discs. Very rarely for a authored BD. No problems at all. I also only use ImgBurn for burning.

    Cost wise, it should be cheaper than using DVD or DVD dual layer as you get more GBs for the $.
    I've also used dual layer BD, and while pricy, they seem to work well.

    I have stuck to Verbatim BD discs, though others may work.

    The problem with inferior discs is that you may not know you have a problem till a year or so later,
    then the disc could fail. I haven't tried LTH discs.
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    Originally Posted by kyrcy View Post
    I am thinking to get a bluray writer (probably an LG BH16NS40) in order to burn large files that I currently split and burn on multiple DVD+R discs. However, from what I read it might not be a good idea to use LTH BD-R discs for this purpose and the more expensive HTL BD-R discs are more difficult to find. I also backup to HDD, but I want to have a second copy on optical media. Any advice?
    The Panasonic brand is indeed on the pricey side. Depends on whether you think it's worth it. I've used the Panasonics and Verbatim's less pricey HTL (but still not cheap) with fine results on over 75 burns.

    LTH is crap. Stay away from it.
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    Verbatim LTH are not crap imho,i have burned hundreds with no issues at all.
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    Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    Verbatim LTH are not crap imho,i have burned hundreds with no issues at all.
    I agree. I don't think it is that they are crap, but there were some compatibility issues that are largely resolved at this point. I've only used around 50, but have had no problems with them.
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    Again the problem might not be with burning a LTH disc, but how long will the disc last.
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    Sure Verbatim LTH media burns well, but that isn't the primary issue the OP is concerned about. His concern is long-term data integrity. LTH media appears to be worse in that regard, even if the burner uses the proper write strategy and the media burns well.

    I know some of you are going to say that you don't trust artificial aging tests, but the data from those tests is all we have to go on at present, and it is what optical disc manufacturers do themselves to test their products. However, as I recall they only test to about 250 hours. The French study discussed in my link performed a much longer test.
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    Panasonic BD-R media had the best outcome of any BD-R media in independent testing, but it is indeed expensive. http://club.myce.com/f33/french-study-bd-r-archival-329441/

    Verbatim HTL BD-R media burns well but did poorly in the above study.

    If good HTL media too hard to find or too expensive, then multiple backups on multiple hard drives are your only good option.
    Is there a link somewhere in English explaining the test methodology? Not that I'm qualified to assess how that test was structured, but I'm sure there are some members here who could.

    It goes against the popular opinion here for Ritek to beat out Verbatim. Not just the LTH, but their HTL discs as well. Not to mention that it conflicts with my own experience (admittedly statistically insignificant).

    Again, I'm not disputing the test results, but when a sacred cow gets gored, I'd like to know more.
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    Originally Posted by fritzi93 View Post
    Originally Posted by usually_quiet View Post
    Panasonic BD-R media had the best outcome of any BD-R media in independent testing, but it is indeed expensive. http://club.myce.com/f33/french-study-bd-r-archival-329441/

    Verbatim HTL BD-R media burns well but did poorly in the above study.

    If good HTL media too hard to find or too expensive, then multiple backups on multiple hard drives are your only good option.
    Is there a link somewhere in English explaining the test methodology? Not that I'm qualified to assess how that test was structured, but I'm sure there are some members here who could.

    It goes against the popular opinion here for Ritek to beat out Verbatim. Not just the LTH, but their HTL discs as well. Not to mention that it conflicts with my own experience (admittedly statistically insignificant).

    Again, I'm not disputing the test results, but when a sacred cow gets gored, I'd like to know more.
    I ran the parts of the study that I wanted to read through Google translate. Admittedly not an ideal solution, but the only French words I know are food-related.
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  13. Okay, I'll give that a go.
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  14. I can't remember what brand of BD-R's I have currently. Whatever Best Buy sells. I've luckily had success with Verbatim BD-R discs. Their DVD's have been crap in my experience. For DVD media I always use Memorex or Sony.
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    Originally Posted by hogger129 View Post
    I can't remember what brand of BD-R's I have currently. Whatever Best Buy sells. I've luckily had success with Verbatim BD-R discs. Their DVD's have been crap in my experience. For DVD media I always use Memorex or Sony.
    Verbatim's "Life" series DVDs (what Best Buy and most other brick and mortar stores sell) are indeed crap. Verbatim's standard AZO DVD media and DataLife Plus DVD media are excellent, but usually have to be bought online.
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    And memorex and the newer sony discs are crap as well.
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