Aviutl Tips, Tricks and Support thread

[PhotoCat]

Thanks racer for your MT-Z tutorial! Actually all ur tutorials r top notch!

[MaverickTse]

A practical use of background remover: when the background interfere with tracking.

With either MK-I or MK-II, the blocks are likely lost when crossing the sky-ground boundary

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Apply the kNN background subtraction.
Track this block-only image with your method-of-choice:
(I tracked the bottom block with MK-II mode 3, while the left one with MK-II mode 1)

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Use EXO Stacker to merge the two EXO, and load into Adv.Editing for final composition.

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I have attached the source video AVI so that you can try it yourself.

this avi source doesn't seem to work... ?!

Get UtVideo codec/K-lite codec pack standard

[PhotoCat]

Get UtVideo codec/K-lite codec pack standard

---got it! working! tks @MT!

what is the reason u use it over Lagarith loss codec? just curious

tks!

[poisondeathray]

Get UtVideo codec/K-lite codec pack standard

---got it! working! tks @MT!

what is the reason u use it over Lagarith loss codec? just curious

tks!

UT's key strength is decoding speed. Very low latency. This makes it useful for lossless intermediates in editing programs (you can playback in realtime, adjust sync, etc...) . You can also encode/decode in ffmpeg, so easy to batch process

Lagarith offers slightly better compression, but slower to encode and decode . It does have "null frames" option, so it offers tremendous compression advantage if you scenes have completely identical static content . Cannot encode with ffmpeg, only decode

MagicYUV is slightly faster than UT, but no ffmpeg support, relatively new (not as thoroughly tested on platforms, applications)

If you want absolutely the best compression, then something like FFV1 is usually the best for YUV sources. Very sluggish, not meant for editing, only archival uses. Occasionally, x264 lossless with custom settings may deliver slightly better compression on some sources

[PhotoCat]

tks poisondeathray! vy informative I should start using more UT's then...

[PhotoCat]

Get UtVideo codec/K-lite codec pack standard

---got it! working! tks @MT!


tks!

But I can't track the "P" blocks though using mkii... It always gives me the first frame for object selection but
in the first frame the "P" blocks are too high to be seen. Not sure how @MT did it...

[racer-x]

I uploaded a new tutorial on animating multiple objects by grouping them into a scene. I'm not sure if that is the correct way, but it works for animated transitions. I can't seem to get it to work for direct animations however. It may be useful to someone anyway.

I posted it on the 1st post and here is a link: https://forum.videohelp.com/attachments/28942-1417569088/Group_Animation_tut.mp4

Here is an example.

[MaverickTse]

Get UtVideo codec/K-lite codec pack standard

---got it! working! tks @MT!


tks!

But I can't track the "P" blocks though using mkii... It always gives me the first frame for object selection but
in the first frame the "P" blocks are too high to be seen. Not sure how @MT did it...

Need to be more "flexible" in your thinking
Of course I can't track something invisible, I did NOT track from FRAME 1.
Select the RANGE of frames to be processed first, then click on the "select object" button.
This button always gives you the frame of starting selection.

[MaverickTse]

I uploaded a new tutorial on animating multiple objects by grouping them into a scene. I'm not sure if that is the correct way, but it works for animated transitions. I can't seem to get it to work for direct animations however. It may be useful to someone anyway.

I posted it on the 1st post and here is a link: https://forum.videohelp.com/attachments/28942-1417569088/Group_Animation_tut.mp4

Here is an example.

This is one of the solutions.
but note that in scenes other than ROOT, "filter objects" like "sub-filter" and "scene change" will not work.(grayed-out)

Another method is using the "group control" object.

The scene-grouping method is best for looping animation, e.g. wheel-like movement, for more than 2 cycles.

[PhotoCat]

But I can't track the "P" blocks though using mkii... It always gives me the first frame for object selection but
in the first frame the "P" blocks are too high to be seen. Not sure how @MT did it...

Need to be more "flexible" in your thinking
Of course I can't track something invisible, I did NOT track from FRAME 1.
Select the RANGE of frames to be processed first, then click on the "select object" button.
This button always gives you the frame of starting selection.

LOL! U r right... Too late at night
Still I lost the "P" when it is crossing the tree/sky or sky/ground boundary... Fun nevertheless!
Thanks @MT!

[MaverickTse]

But I can't track the "P" blocks though using mkii... It always gives me the first frame for object selection but
in the first frame the "P" blocks are too high to be seen. Not sure how @MT did it...

Need to be more "flexible" in your thinking
Of course I can't track something invisible, I did NOT track from FRAME 1.
Select the RANGE of frames to be processed first, then click on the "select object" button.
This button always gives you the frame of starting selection.

LOL! U r right... Too late at night
Still I lost the "P" when it is crossing the tree/sky or sky/ground boundary... Fun nevertheless!
Thanks @MT!

Yes, I have tried almost ALL available methods in the OpenCV library and ALL FAILED at the boundary or near to the tree trunk.
That's why I created the background remover.

[racer-x]

I uploaded a new tutorial on animating multiple objects by grouping them into a scene. I'm not sure if that is the correct way, but it works for animated transitions. I can't seem to get it to work for direct animations however. It may be useful to someone anyway.

I posted it on the 1st post and here is a link: https://forum.videohelp.com/attachments/28942-1417569088/Group_Animation_tut.mp4

Here is an example.

This is one of the solutions.
but note that in scenes other than ROOT, "filter objects" like "sub-filter" and "scene change" will not work.(grayed-out)

Another method is using the "group control" object.

The scene-grouping method is best for looping animation, e.g. wheel-like movement, for more than 2 cycles.

I forgot about Media Object > Group Control. Yes that allows much more manipulation options, thanks.........

[PhotoCat]

EXA file generation?

The page-curl effect is very nice! Well done racer! I have been playing around with SimplyWrapV2 as well to reproduce your results...
How do you save the final animation tweak into an .EXA file? Just cut & paste from the .EXO file? Thanks!

[PhotoCat]

Got it... right click on animation panel and save settings-> create an alias with the current settings
This is cool! Now I can be making a lot of custom animations

[PhotoCat]

High resolution jpg file in slideshow. How to zoom to 1:1 in high quality?

I have imported a jpg file of size 5616x3744 using Maverick's auto shrink plugin. However,
I have discovered that when I zoomed the image in aviutl to 100%, the quality was significantly
worse than my image viewer (faststone) in 100% view (ie less detail, less sharp). Is there anyway to preserve
the original image quality in aviutl when zoomed in?

I am guessing the auto shrink plugin will just shrink down the image file into a smaller sized image that
aviutl can handle, and therefore zooming with aviutl of the same image will not bring back the original
image quality. Not sure if this is the reason...

Thinking about a workaround... Should I just crop the original image in the face area rather than shrink it... ?

Anything I am missing? Pls advise! Thanks!

Yeah, that's right, I just shrink whatever oversized image to what AviUtl can handle at current settings.
The size that you just loaded the image is ALREADY the MAXIMUM AviUtl can handle properly. If you magnify it, even by 1 pixel, the usual problems occur.

Ask your self again do you really need such resolution. Are you making an A0 poster instead of making a video?

5616x3744, when expanded in memory, leads to a 80MB RGBA data block. Considering the intermediate shrunken image, you can take it as 100MB.

If you need an oversized background while only need to show part of it at a time, try using the SVG Custom object.
First embed you image in SVG using Adobe Illustrator or InkScape (If using Inkscape, do not apply any deformation);
Then add "Adv@svg-render-EN", point it to your SVG file.

ok, finally tried to embed a 21meg 5616x3744 jpg file into .svg using Illustrator. Unfortunately when I import the .svg file into aviutl as
a SVG custom object (adv@svg-render-EN), aviutl was almost ground to a halt - it became vy slow. The preview screen is black though.
Tried auto@svg-render-EN & basic@svg-render-EN. Same thing.

[MaverickTse]

High resolution jpg file in slideshow. How to zoom to 1:1 in high quality?

I have imported a jpg file of size 5616x3744 using Maverick's auto shrink plugin. However,
I have discovered that when I zoomed the image in aviutl to 100%, the quality was significantly
worse than my image viewer (faststone) in 100% view (ie less detail, less sharp). Is there anyway to preserve
the original image quality in aviutl when zoomed in?

I am guessing the auto shrink plugin will just shrink down the image file into a smaller sized image that
aviutl can handle, and therefore zooming with aviutl of the same image will not bring back the original
image quality. Not sure if this is the reason...

Thinking about a workaround... Should I just crop the original image in the face area rather than shrink it... ?

Anything I am missing? Pls advise! Thanks!

Yeah, that's right, I just shrink whatever oversized image to what AviUtl can handle at current settings.
The size that you just loaded the image is ALREADY the MAXIMUM AviUtl can handle properly. If you magnify it, even by 1 pixel, the usual problems occur.

Ask your self again do you really need such resolution. Are you making an A0 poster instead of making a video?

5616x3744, when expanded in memory, leads to a 80MB RGBA data block. Considering the intermediate shrunken image, you can take it as 100MB.

If you need an oversized background while only need to show part of it at a time, try using the SVG Custom object.
First embed you image in SVG using Adobe Illustrator or InkScape (If using Inkscape, do not apply any deformation);
Then add "Adv@svg-render-EN", point it to your SVG file.

ok, finally tried to embed a 21meg 5616x3744 jpg file into .svg using Illustrator. Unfortunately when I import the .svg file into aviutl as
a SVG custom object (adv@svg-render-EN), aviutl was almost ground to a halt - it became vy slow. The preview screen is black though.
Tried auto@svg-render-EN & basic@svg-render-EN. Same thing.

Split your image into several tiles (e.g. 4x4) in an image editor, then assemble them back using the right coordinate in AviUtl. Use the Group Control Object to control the assembled tiles' movement.

[PhotoCat]

"Split your image into several tiles (e.g. 4x4) in an image editor, then assemble them back using the right coordinate in AviUtl. Use the Group Control Object to control the assembled tiles' movement."

Tks! will try that...

[PhotoCat]

Intermittent problem with right click on layers track... anyone?

On the layer track, when I right click to insert a new object/text, sometimes I have to
right click a few times to get the manual.
One right click, manual popped up right away but gone right away. Needed to click a gain... gone again.
Then perhaps the 3rd or 4th time, the manual stayed and I could start doing something...

Anyone experienced this? Thanks!

[PhotoCat]

"Split your image into several tiles (e.g. 4x4) in an image editor, then assemble them back using the right coordinate in AviUtl. Use the Group Control Object to control the assembled tiles' movement."

Tks! will try that...

It almost worked except at the end... when zooming out...

[racer-x]

I downloaded and am trying out Aviutl extrapack1-9. It gives multiple error boxes at startup "Multiple Advanced Editing plug-ins have been registered. There is a possibility that it may not operate normally" Why does it look for "logodata.ldp" ?

[racer-x]

@ PhotoCat. My camera (t2i) shoots 5184 x 3456. I set system resolution @ 5184 x 5184 and it seems to work fine in my test.....

[PhotoCat]

Thanks racer. Mine said insufficient memory & crashed! I only hv 10GB memory... but this is 32bit app anyway...
I set the max input size to 5616x5616 but created the project at 1080p.

[MaverickTse]

I downloaded and am trying out Aviutl extrapack1-9. It gives multiple error boxes at startup "Multiple Advanced Editing plug-ins have been registered. There is a possibility that it may not operate normally" Why does it look for "logodata.ldp" ?

Strange... can you do a

dir exedit*.auf /b

and give me the output?

Check the MD5 of the 7z archive, for
XP Pack: FC06DB3D1B67A405E4DC5262BDD21062
Win7 Pack: 9CC71BB5F397CD56B22C29636C5926D6

Perhaps you got the wrong archive

[MaverickTse]

Thanks racer. Mine said insufficient memory & crashed! I only hv 10GB memory... but this is 32bit app anyway...
I set the max input size to 5616x5616 but created the project at 1080p.

Try right-clicking on the timeline > Preference, then reduce the following values:


An also:
SYSTEM SETTINGS > Frames to cache
--> reduce to 2

[MaverickTse]

Memory usage analysis on large (internal) image:

Settings:


Free memory:
FullHD empty project→ 2,490,880K


1x 2000px*2000px square → 1,989,568K
2x 2000px*2000px square → 1,989,312K
4x 2000px*2000px square → 1,989,312K


+Group Control →　1,981,632K
+Camera Control → 1,364,544K

+Camera Effect:Target Center rotation → 858,304K

+Group Control+Offscreen drawing+Gradient → 842,304K


//
read a 3648x2736 JPEG via internal reader → 1,495,360K

read a 3648x2736 JPEG via AutoShrink→　1,285,120K

[racer-x]

I downloaded and am trying out Aviutl extrapack1-9. It gives multiple error boxes at startup "Multiple Advanced Editing plug-ins have been registered. There is a possibility that it may not operate normally" Why does it look for "logodata.ldp" ?

Strange... can you do a

dir exedit*.auf /b

and give me the output?

Check the MD5 of the 7z archive, for
XP Pack: FC06DB3D1B67A405E4DC5262BDD21062
Win7 Pack: 9CC71BB5F397CD56B22C29636C5926D6

Perhaps you got the wrong archive

I downloaded via the link on this site, that one did not work well. Then I went to your site to download the win7 x64 version, that one works just fine so far.

Thanks for the updates!

[racer-x]

Thanks racer. Mine said insufficient memory & crashed! I only hv 10GB memory... but this is 32bit app anyway...
I set the max input size to 5616x5616 but created the project at 1080p.

I did a test setting system size to 6000 x 6000 and got insufficient memory error, but it worked anyway. I'm running an Intel Q9300 with 4 GB Ram on win7 x64. I'm using the latest Aviutl 1-9.

You'll probably have to render each large image one at a time to a lossless codec, then re-import. Attached is a screen grab while rendering:

[PhotoCat]

tks @MT & racer! I am trying out avitul 1-9 too but I got a virus alert (suspected)
upon unpacking.

from the file: Spectrum_View.auf
virus is Win32:Evo-gen

My antivirus is Avast

I downloaded the package from this site.

[videobruger]

I get the virus alert from ImasUncaption.auf - as in 1.8. Win 8/Avira reporting TR/Crypt.ZPACK.Gen7.

[racer-x]

I uploaded a tutorial for Image Morphing with Aviutl. Filter Effects > Animation Effects > Morphing. It's a good effect when you adjust the settings. It's good for making a JackAss out of your friend for example....................

Link: https://forum.videohelp.com/attachments/29010-1417992368/Morphing_tut.mp4

Example animated gif....