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    Hi everybody in this forum.
    iam on holidays with an actiuon cam making videos of my family.

    The Problem is:
    all videos are recorded with this specifications:

    Information with Gspot:
    Container:
    qt : Apple QuickTime (.MOV/QT)
    File Type: QuickTime (.MOV)
    Mime Type: video/quicktime
    Recommended Display Size: 1920 x 1080
    Created: 2004 Jan 02 01:00:00
    Modified: 2004 Jan 02 01:00:00
    Video:

    Codec: avc1
    Name: h.26430 Frames / s
    1920x1080

    Audio:
    sowt: 16-bit signed little-endian
    32000Hz

    So i make a lot of short videos.
    Now the Problem:

    Some videos didnt contain any video information like above, instead
    Container:
    File Type: QuickTime (.MOV)
    Mime Type: video/quicktime

    thats all...
    so when i will play it, mpc says no render information and doesent play.
    no videoplayer play this videos, Quicktime too.

    My Questions:
    is there som Software to add the complete information like in the other "good" videos?
    Or is these a convertion software that accepts these video, or i can adjust the render information like codec frames and so on?

    No render information, no accepting in Convertion software, because not recognizing in converters...

    So give mit a Help please, because i dont want to loose these videos.

    Thanks a lot to all supporters...
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  2. Quicktime not playing the files is a bad sign. How large are the problem files?
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    By the way, you may want to use MediaInfo to get information on the videos, rather than GSpot - aside from not having been updated in some time, GSpot's support for video container formats other than AVI and MPEG is rather limited.

    Also, in Tree/Text mode, you can easily copy the information MediaInfo gives you, and paste it into a post here.
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    To fix this problem, the first thing to do is NOT how to insert "good" header info, but to find out IF your "bad" videos really are missing video info or not. If they ARE missing the video info (because they got corrupted on the card/phone/tape/device), you likely can NOT get them back (depends upon how much is missing and from where), possibly AT ALL, EVER.
    If they have material there, but it's just corrupted and needs certain sections to be re-formed correctly, your prospects improve, but not by a whole lot.

    And until you are able to have correct headers, NO regular software will work with your material.

    Start by UPLOADING to this site a very short sample clip (a few seconds worth). Since you "make a lot of short videos", you shouldn't need to cut one down (which you probably couldn't do at this point, anyway).

    Also, stop using Gspot as your main Info reference. Use instead MediaInfo.

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    Originally Posted by smrpix View Post
    Quicktime not playing the files is a bad sign. How large are the problem files?
    the files are from ca. 90 mbytes up to 270 mbytes...
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    Originally Posted by Ai Haibara View Post
    By the way, you may want to use MediaInfo to get information on the videos, rather than GSpot - aside from not having been updated in some time, GSpot's support for video container formats other than AVI and MPEG is rather limited.

    Also, in Tree/Text mode, you can easily copy the information MediaInfo gives you, and paste it into a post here.
    allright, here the bad file:

    Allgemein
    Vollständiger Name : ***\15380012.MOV
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format-Profil : QuickTime
    Codec-ID : qt
    Dateigröße : 93,0 MiB

    here is the good file:
    Allgemein
    Vollständiger Name : ***\15370011.MOV
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format-Profil : QuickTime
    Codec-ID : qt
    Dateigröße : 73,8 MiB
    Dauer : 38s 847ms
    Gesamte Bitrate : 15,9 Mbps
    Kodierungs-Datum : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00
    Tagging-Datum : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format-Profil : High@L4.0
    Format-Einstellungen für CABAC : Ja
    Format-Einstellungen für ReFrames : 1 frame
    Format_Settings_GOP : M=1, N=15
    Codec-ID : avc1
    Codec-ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Dauer : 38s 733ms
    Bitrate : 14,7 Mbps
    Breite : 1 920 Pixel
    Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
    Bildseitenverhältnis : 16:9
    Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
    Bildwiederholungsrate : 30,000 FPS
    ColorSpace : YUV
    ChromaSubsampling : 4:2:0
    BitDepth/String : 8 bits
    Scantyp : progressiv
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.237
    Stream-Größe : 68,1 MiB (92%)
    Sprache : Englisch
    Kodierungs-Datum : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00
    Tagging-Datum : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : PCM
    Format-Einstellungen für Endianess : Little
    Format-Einstellungen für Sign : Signed
    Codec-ID : sowt
    Dauer : 38s 847ms
    Bitraten-Modus : konstant
    Bitrate : 512 Kbps
    Kanäle : 1 Kanal
    Samplingrate : 32,0 KHz
    BitDepth/String : 16 bits
    Stream-Größe : 2,37 MiB (3%)
    Sprache : Englisch
    Kodierungs-Datum : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00
    Tagging-Datum : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00

    and in english:
    good file:
    General
    Complete name : ***\15370011.MOV
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : QuickTime
    Codec ID : qt
    File size : 73.8 MiB
    Duration : 38s 847ms
    Overall bit rate : 15.9 Mbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00
    Tagged date : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=15
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 38s 733ms
    Bit rate : 14.7 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 30.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.237
    Stream size : 68.1 MiB (92%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00
    Tagged date : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : PCM
    Format settings, Endianness : Little
    Format settings, Sign : Signed
    Codec ID : sowt
    Duration : 38s 847ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 512 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 1 channel
    Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Stream size : 2.37 MiB (3%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00
    Tagged date : UTC 2004-01-01 00:00:00

    bad file:
    General
    Complete name ***\15380012.MOV
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : QuickTime
    Codec ID : qt
    File size : 93.0 MiB


    thanks everybody for help..
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    okidoki,
    here is a short example for a bad video...
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    That just looks like a bunch of random garbage data mixed with a bunch of empty data (with an occasional "freeGPS" thrown in). I think the only reason MediaInfo is calling this a QT MOV is because YOU are (aka the file is named that). There is no valid QT MOV atom data at all: no ftyp, no mdat, no trak, no moov, etc.

    How did you get this file? I'm guessing your cam crapped out on you and you tried to "recover" the corrupt card. If so, the "recovery" didn't really work.

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    That just looks like a bunch of random garbage data mixed with a bunch of empty data (with an occasional "freeGPS" thrown in). I think the only reason MediaInfo is calling this a QT MOV is because YOU are (aka the file is named that). There is no valid QT MOV atom data at all: no ftyp, no mdat, no trak, no moov, etc.

    How did you get this file? I'm guessing your cam crapped out on you and you tried to "recover" the corrupt card. If so, the "recovery" didn't really work.

    Scott
    thanks for reply scott,
    i got this file from the sd card where good an bad files in the same directory.
    i make a little record but dont know whats on it.

    no recovering or somthing like that, original from sd card...

    vlc player has a rebulding funktion for avi files...
    something for the *.mov files ?

    well now i will test the SD card, for defects or something like that.

    but the problem is on:
    possibilities for recovering the videos.

    thanks a lot for all guys..
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  10. I agree with Cornucopia, the file is missing all the structural information you normally find in MOV files. There appears to be some data that is audio and (maybe) video so you might be able to recover a little bit of it with the right tools.
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    Ok Thanks a lot for the appreciation. Which tools can i use?
    I tested the sd cards.
    The process(32GB) is not ready at all.
    There are random missing sectors on sd. So i dont use it any more.
    Which Tools can i use for maybe rebuilding the Video?

    Aaarrrgghhh.... Tapatalk in a german phone writing englisch....

    Thanks a lot...
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    "Rebuilding" the video is secondary (in order, if not necessarily in importance) to actually Recovering the (bulk of the) video files themselves, as legitimate FILES. I'm guessing what was a corrupt SD card had bad sectors that got written to but weren't flagged as such, and also the TOC (table of contents) of the files+directories might also have been corrupt, so even if your video's data got sent to a valid & working address, the pointer isn't pointing to THAT address, but another.

    You need an app that grabs the entire disc image, and then uses pattern-matching to find videos (or fragments of videos). Yes, fragmentation would complicate things greatly. Hopefully this card hasn't been used much and all the files are somewhat contiguous.

    Can't recommend the best apps for this kind of thing myself, because I rarely have need for such a thing. When I do need it, I often find the info right here on Vh, or also on BleepingComputer, MajorGeeks, a few other sites...

    Scott

    BTW, another reason to do a complete reformat (in the camera) EVERY TIME of any new card you stick in your cam (assuming you've already uploaded previous data). It'll help flag those bad spots (in the user data area or the TOC area) and the following new videos ought to be contiguous.
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