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  1. It may be commercial in the sense that he paid money for it, but it's a bootleg I'd bet money. coldstatic, is this from one of those 3-DVD box sets that are all over eBay? You get what you pay for and in this case you paid for crap.
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  2. I just noticed that some of the scrolling titles in neuron2's m2v are 60 fields per second. They will suffer if you convert the video to 23.976 fps.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    I just noticed that some of the scrolling titles in neuron2's m2v are 60 fields per second. They will suffer if you convert the video to 23.976 fps.
    That's the big dilemma with hybrid material -- what frame rate to target. VFR is an option but is it worth it for some small amount of scrolling?

    BTW, my sample is from the legit original DVD.
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    Its a 6 disk series with single big box. The disks don't look like bootlegs either. I am curious to hear if jagabo has any other thoughts on the rip process. I went out and got the livcss.DLL file and put it into my handbreak folder like all the instructions said. Before I put that in there it wouldn't even scan the disk. For the sample cut I just followed the instructions. Open file set edit then demux.
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  5. Originally Posted by coldstatic View Post
    I am curious to hear if jagabo has any other thoughts on the rip process.
    The 'rip process' means decrypting to the hard drive and nothing else. How about answering his question about how you decrypted it first? Handbrake doesn't decrypt.

    There is a 6-disc set that's legit, I think. Is this the one and did you pay roughly the same?

    http://www.amazon.com/Cowboy-Bebop-Remix-Complete-Collection/dp/B00102FF7U

    But if you never decrypted it properly, that might explain a lot.
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    Well according to a bunch of different threads if you put that lib file in the handbreak folder it gives it the power to decrypt. The developers skipped the file on purpose so that they could avoid any copyright issues.

    Tea the box looks right but the price was higher years ago. IMO the price has dropped a lot recently because of the bluray release.

    Search page for libdvdcss and it talks about decryption.
    https://www.videohelp.com/tools/HandBrake/version-history
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  7. Originally Posted by coldstatic View Post
    Search page for libdvdcss and it talks about decryption.
    No thanks. Why not decrypt it with a proper decrypter? What you've shown us is very messed up. Maybe I was wrong about it being a bootleg, but unless and until you show us something done right no one can help. And when you do decrypt it properly, then maybe you won't have the problem you're having.
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    Originally Posted by manono View Post
    Originally Posted by coldstatic View Post
    Search page for libdvdcss and it talks about decryption.
    No thanks. Why not decrypt it with a proper decrypter? What you've shown us is very messed up. Maybe I was wrong about it being a bootleg, but unless and until you show us something done right no one can help. And when you do decrypt it properly, then maybe you won't have the problem you're having.
    What program do you use? Are there any special settings i need to be aware of in it?

    also here is cutout from one of my handbrake videos.
    Second vid is same but without any filters applied. (detelecine was only one on first vid)
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    Easiest is to use DVDDecrypter to rip. Click the link to get it. It works fine with my original disks. I don't know about what you have. Give it a try.

    I used file mode to get files VTS_03_1.VOB and VTS_03_2.VOB if you want just that episode. You can decline to set the region code if prompted. The fallback brute force cracking works fine.

    Why do you give us some random MP4 files?
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  10. Originally Posted by coldstatic View Post
    I am curious to hear if jagabo has any other thoughts on the rip process.
    I suspect the DVD has some kind of structural protection so you can't just use DgIndex on the VOB files. You may need to rip the DVD to a VIDEO_TS folder with DVDFab (an older version that still has DVD decryption) and then use VOB2MPG to extract episodes as MPG files. Then use DgIndex on those MPG files.
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    If they are the originals, there is no structural protection. And even without structural protection you still have to decrypt before using DGIndex. Finally, using DVDDecrypter there is no need to convert to MPG. DGIndex accepts the decrypted VOBs directly. Just rip the VOBs and open them in DGIndex. But of course I acknowledge there are many ways to skin the cat. I try to keep it simple for the OP.

    That livcss stuff used in Handbrake may be assembling VOBs out of order, etc. Who knows or cares?

    Specifically, coldstatic, what is the link you used to purchase them?
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  12. If coldstatic didn't rip with DVD Decrypter or some other program before using DgIndex to time out a sample-- what file did he use with DgIndex? Did he open a VOB file directly from the DVD? That would be a problem.
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    He says he used livcss, which I suppose does decrypting. But the hosed screens you saw looked more like out of order decoding than outright failure to decrypt. Instead of bothering to reconstruct that, let's see how he gets on with proper ripping.
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  14. Originally Posted by neuron2 View Post
    He says he used livcss, which I suppose does decrypting. But the hosed screens you saw looked more like out of order decoding than outright failure to decrypt. Instead of bothering to reconstruct that, let's see how he gets on with proper ripping.
    But isn't livcss just a dll a decryption library that he copied to the Handbrake folder? DgIndex wouldn't have access to that.

    But I agree that the problem with his M2V files doesn't look like encrypted VOB files.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    But isn't livcss just a dll a decryption library that he copied to the Handbrake folder? DgIndex wouldn't have access to that.
    But Handbrake would! I don't know that much about Handbrake; maybe it decrypts the VOBs for DGIndex.
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  16. When I play his sample in MPC-HC I get video that looks a lot like it hasn't been decrypted. Other times, like in DGIndex or opening the M2V in VDubMod, I get video more like jagabo's picture. If it's the one in my earlier link it was released in 2008 and DVD Decrypter should be able to handle it. If not then DVDFab HD Decrypter.

    In addition, jagabo noticed screwy GOPs. I see completely messed up matrices being used. Whatever was done or not done to create that sample, it's no good at all.
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