Like the thread title says...
Maybe it's not news to some of you, but it is to me. Got a notification today that my trial had expired. To get Plex to work again I'd have to pay a one-time fee of $4.99. That was something of a surprise.
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be worth it. I'm just annoyed since I don't recall reading anywhere that the Plex channel on Roku was anything but free. Apparently, it's only new users that are affected, and of course the Plex Media Server is free. After going to the trouble of setting up and editing my database, I can't help but feel I'm being held for ransom.
Fortunately, there's an alternative: RARflix, a modified Plex/Roku channel.
It found my server straight away. Works and looks just like the Plex Roku channel. Plex channel uninstalled.
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Last edited by fritzi93; 20th Apr 2014 at 15:15.Pull! Bang! Darn!
I'm streaming from this computer (in details) to three Rokus. It seems a common complaint is that Plex Media Server is resource-hungry, but that's not a problem on this computer
I'll take your word for it that there are better media streamers, but any alternative will have to work with Roku.
The Plex channel works well once everything is set up. My one minor gripe is that it's difficult sometimes to correct errors in the database. Like duplicate artist entries for music or wrong movie and poster for a movie when there's another (or several) with similar name. The former can result from a freeDB error in punctuation or a letter capitalized where it shouldn't be. Such errors are not uncommon, apparently. The latter comes from Plex Media Server selecting the wrong entry in the imdb database.
Again, editing/correcting errors is not very straightforward in Plex Media Server. I spent a fair bit of time fixing things. Nevertheless, I would still recommend Plex for Roku users unless someone can suggest an alternative that works well on Roku specifically.
[EDIT] I did try another media streaming channel on Roku, though for the life of me I can't remember the name now. It was in the Roku channel store. Not as good as Plex.
I read that there was a beta Roku channel called NokNok that could work with Serviio, but it appears to have been abandoned.
Last edited by fritzi93; 21st Apr 2014 at 09:46.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Yes, I'm also using Plex with a Roku 3 and find it pretty darn good, with the sometime (but rare) problem fritzi93 mentioned of the wrong poster for a video. I did try the RARflix mentioned in the first post but Plex is still working for me so the nearly identical RARFlix will have to wait until everyone is forced to pay to use Plex.
Plex also works fairly well on my son's (and my) Playstation 3.
Plex only as an aside. Plex is still free for me. Based on what fritzi93 said, it's only recent converts that have had the problem.
The thing is, Roku is not DLNA compliant. People have been asking about it for years now, and the answer is always: no plans to make it so.
It's a pretty good internet streamer, that's it. Private channels like the Plex channel are...hmm, I guess you could call them workarounds. Or a bridge.
I forgot to add, the Plex channel (and RARflix) has one sovereign advantage: a techno-phobe like my wife isn't put off by it. If she can figure out how to use the Roku (which is dead simple), she can use Plex, and she does.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Serviio doesn't work on Roku and this is a Roku thread. manono correctly called you out because you aren't paying attention to lordsmurf's attempt (perhaps accidental) to hijack this thread.
Anyway, I have an old version of Plex maybe 2 years old. It still works for free on Roku. I used it last night. I have the impression that my version is so old that they can't stop it from working for free but if I upgraded I would quickly be in the same situation as fritzi93. I stopped upgrading Plex quite some time ago because the upgrades were a bit of a hassle and I wasn't noticing any benefit from spending the time to do it. If I had to guess, I'd say that I did my last Plex upgrade well over a year ago.
You know, that might be it. I could have sworn that I first installed Plex well over a month ago. But I did update Plex Media Server some weeks ago, hoping that the editing process would be improved. No improvements to that as far as I could tell, and none to how it operates.Pull! Bang! Darn!
Plex stopped working on my Roku 2 after about a month of use. I received a notification on the device stating I needed to purchase the app.
So, my initial reaction was I would take it back (to the retail store) and trade it in for a WD live TV instead; being I don't really use the TV services plex has. I only purchased it for streaming media from my PC to a tv for the little one.
-So why should I pay more for a service I initially expected to come free with the $80 device?
Anyhow, on to the solution/s.
I installed the Media streamer app in the store (for free) and it allows me to access my Plex Server and my other PC's. So this saves you the time of having to install Servio or UMS and then configure the server and- blah blah blah.
This WILL work - However, it's not as easy to navigate as the Plex app.
The funny thing is - when I uninstalled my Plex APP - I decided to reinstall the app again and see if that would change things.
After I uninstalled Plex from the Roku and then reinstalled the app stopped trying to force the fee upon us and worked fine.
I don't know why it did. Maybe it's not suppose to and maybe it won't for you, but it works for me.
Thanks for your confirmation.
Now that I have the PLEX media server running on my Vista PC and the RARFlix app running on my Roku3, I was able to point the server to the folder containing my homemade videos. However, when I go to my TV and click on a video I want to watch it runs just fine for 5 seconds and then issues a warning message to check that my PLEX server is running. Since I can restart the video and watch it for 5 seconds again I assume my server is indeed running, so why does the video keep ending before it should?
Do you get that with other videos too, or just your home-made ones?Pull! Bang! Darn!
Though I am still baffled, here's a summary of what's going on:
- all of my AVI files play just fine on my (Vista) desktop (so I know they're not corrupt) using VLC media player
- most of those AVI files play just fine on my Plex media server (loaded on my Vista desktop)/RARflix app (loaded on my Roku3)
- only a few of the AVI files play for 5 seconds before PLEX stops it and issues a bogus message telling me to check if my server is still running (which it is)
- I recently added an MP4 file to the PLEX folder where all my other homemade videos reside but it's not showing up for me to select on my TV
Thanks very much for your analysis.
Bromberg, I wonder if you're getting enough throughput. You can install the Speedtest private Roku channel (free) to check:
If memory serves, you need about 3 Mb/s sustained for 720p, and twice that for 1080p content. And perhaps more for your videos via Plex/RARflix depending on the bitrate of your vids and whether you have the server's transcoding enabled.
Personally, I had obscure compatibility trouble with my Comcast gateway (modem/router) and Netgear router. The Netgear has more thoughput, but would inexplicably slow down or stop altogether. So I had to regularly reboot the gateway. Finally I started using just the gateway network for our Rokus and it's been fine since. Strangely, the Netgear network still works fine for my HTPC and netbooks.
Last edited by fritzi93; 1st Dec 2014 at 06:48.Pull! Bang! Darn!
I did read something about the naming convention you referred to but didn't see a category for "homemade" movies (like I did for a "movie" or a "tv" show). So if you know of such a convention (for "homemade" movies) then please let me know (though I doubt that will resolve my issue since some of my homemade movies play just fine (using the same extension !?!)).
I don't see it as a throughput issue since it is always the same few videos which do not play whereas other homemade videos (using the same extension) play just fine!?! Also, I can watch Netflix content with absolutely no hesitation, jitter, buffering,...etc... issues at all.
I plan to install the real PLEX app on my Roku3 (instead of the RARflix app which I am currently using) to see if that resolves my issue.
Thanks and keep those ideas coming!
Plex didn't find it. I stuck it into the MKV container (Sample (2014).mkv) and all was good. Maybe I did something wrong, not sure.
I don't believe it finds VOBs either. As I suggested, remux into MKV and it may fix some of your problems.
That's interesting. Every video on my server is either MKV (BD rip) or H.264 transport stream (HD-PVR capture). Never a problem. I have some assorted AVIs and MPGs I never got around to putting on the server.
I'd be surprised if installing the official Plex makes any difference, but it's worth a try. After all, RARflix is just a lightly modified version of Plex.Pull! Bang! Darn!