How do you make a NTSC interlaced DVD video progressive?

[ConverterCrazy]

How do I add audio track to the current video?

Open the XviD AVI in VDub and set Video for 'Direct Stream Copy'. Add the audio in the Audio tab and then File->Save as AVI.

The output file size is huge over 12 GB!

Please suggest proper settings for Video also.

Thanks

[jagabo]

How do I add audio track to the current video?

Open the XviD AVI in VDub and set Video for 'Direct Stream Copy'. Add the audio in the Audio tab and then File->Save as AVI.

The output file size is huge over 12 GB!

Add the AVI file directly, not via an AviSynth script. Then follow the rest of his directions.

Please suggest proper settings for Video also.

WIth Direct Stream Copy there are no settings. The video stream is simply copied from the source file to the output file. It retains all it's original properties.

[ConverterCrazy]

Thanks @jagabo

It is the size of video file after running AviSynth Script.
I think I should have used some setting for compression which I didn't.

I think this is my last miss at using AviSynth script and VDub.

[jagabo]

It is the size of video file after running AviSynth Script.

Manono was describing how to mux already compressed video with already compressed audio. Not how to process your video.

I think I should have used some setting for compression which I didn't.

Then don't use Direct Stream Copy and use Video -> Compression... select a codec, configure it, then File -> Save as AVI.

[ConverterCrazy]

Ok. Thanks.

[ConverterCrazy]

You're doing nothing wrong. QTGMC is slow although you can use faster settings for it. The default behavior for it is the 'slower' preset. You can try the YadifMod I showed as it's faster. Yadif is faster yet. You can trade quality for speed. Or just let it encode two nights and a day (and hope the power doesn't go out).

As for the audio, MPEG2Source doesn't include the audio. You can add audio in the Audio section of VDub if you like.

Congratulations! You're encoding now, frameserving with AviSynth. And you didn't think it would ever happen, did you? So you can teach an old dog new tricks.

You can speed it up by doing a single pass using Quant 3, if you're running 2 passes. That will cut the time almost in half. And you can buy a faster computer. Nothing stresses a computer quite like complex AviSynth filters. You have a computer that was obsolete ten years ago, if your profile is accurate.

Following your suggestions, I have saved one movie. Good quality (as best as Indian movie DVD quality offer).

I have changed processor to Core2Duo 2.9GHz.

And I am back with more questions.

1- What Video settings like compression, codec, etc to use for Full Processing mode in VDub?
Then there are settings within the codec that confound me. If it's not much trouble, suggest settings for XVid h.263 and h.264.

I ask because video size is too high (over 3GB) and all movies except 2 are Black-n-White.


2- What changes in AviSynth script are required for color and BnW movies (if any).


Thanks.

[manono]

You don't use Full Compression in VDub, you use Fast Recompress when feeding it AviSynth scripts.

I don't use VDub for anything except making intermediate lossless AVIs. If you want to make XviD AVIs and the files are too large, lower the bitrate (or raise the quantizer). I make MP4s feeding AviSynth scripts into RipBot264. Different people do it different ways.

I don't do anything differently, as far as codec settings, whether encoding black and white or color movies.

[ConverterCrazy]

You don't use Full Compression in VDub, you use Fast Recompress when feeding it AviSynth scripts.

I don't use VDub for anything except making intermediate lossless AVIs. If you want to make XviD AVIs and the files are too large, lower the bitrate (or raise the quantizer). I make MP4s feeding AviSynth scripts into RipBot264. Different people do it different ways.

I don't do anything differently, as far as codec settings, whether encoding black and white or color movies.

Thanks.

Got it.

[ConverterCrazy]

When i worked on first movie under guidance from @manono. Avsynth worked and VirtualDub 1.4 worked.

I am using this script and nothing happens in VDub

SetMemoryMax(1024)
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\mt_masktools-25.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\YadifMod.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\NNEDI3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\MVTools2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\GScript.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\Grunt.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
Import("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\SRestore.avsi")
Import("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\QTGMC-3.33.avsi")

MPEG2Source("D:\Movies\lost.d2v")
QTGMC()
#yadifmod(mode=1, order=1, edeint=nnedi3(field=-2))
SRestore()
Smooth(Brightness=1,Contrast=0.9)

Nothing happens.

[manono]

SetMemoryMax(1024)
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\mt_masktools-25.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\YadifMod.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\NNEDI3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\MVTools2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\GScript.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\Grunt.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
Import("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\SRestore.avsi")
Import("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\QTGMC-3.33.avsi")

MPEG2Source("D:\Movies\lost.d2v")
QTGMC()
#yadifmod(mode=1, order=1, edeint=nnedi3(field=-2))
SRestore()
Smooth(Brightness=1,Contrast=0.9)

Do you mean SmoothTweak? Did you load the SmoothAdjust.dll? I'm surprised it opens at all, but maybe that's what you mean by 'nothing happens'. There wasn't an error message?

[ConverterCrazy]

@manono

Thanks a ton. It is working!

I did not see any error message.

P.S.: The projected filesize is over 110GB!

Pl advise.

[jagabo]

Select a video compression codec and configure it.

[ConverterCrazy]

Select a video compression codec and configure it.

Thanks.

There are so many versions of VirtualDub. People like me can't decide which one is the hassle-free version.

[manono]

Use the latest 'regular' version of VDub as found on the VDub page you get to by clicking on the link (unless you already have a perfectly good version). You're making XviDs, right? So, go Video->Fast Recompress, then Video->Compression->XviD MPEG-4 Codec. 'Configure' it for Target quantizer 3 (not Target bitrate). Add audio if you like in the Audio section. 'Okay' back to the main screen and File->Save AVI. Done. That's one way anyway.

[ConverterCrazy]

Use the latest 'regular' version of VDub as found on the VDub page you get to by clicking on the link (unless you already have a perfectly good version). You're making XviDs, right? So, go Video->Fast Recompress, then Video->Compression->XviD MPEG-4 Codec. 'Configure' it for Target quantizer 3 (not Target bitrate). Add audio if you like in the Audio section. 'Okay' back to the main screen and File->Save AVI. Done. That's one way anyway.

Thanks.

I'm only interested in backing up my DVD collection (30 DVDs) in any format that may give a video file of ≈ 2GB, dual track audio [original+corrected for bad audio], Chapter markers and subtitles.

Your guidance to use Avisynth helped me create AVI file. It is good (with all flicker and blinds gone) except for audio which is beyond 'repair' with my limited knowledge. Wish I could do with some sharpening in video.

Your every word is important to me. So, any format, any method you suggest will be followed verbatim.

Thanks.

PS:
You are more aware of defects in Indian DVDs than I can even try to figure out.

[manono]

If you have to have chapters then MKV is the way to go. I open AviSynth scripts in RipBot264 for that, but there are other ways. I have no use for chapters so I don't know how it's done (or even if it's done) when using RipBot264. If it doesn't create chapters or allow for a second audio stream, you can run the result through MakeMKV (I think) afterwards to add them in. If, for some reason, filesize is important, then 2-pass VBR encoding for whatever bitrate you need may be the way to go. However, I'd still recommend 1-pass quality encodes. That may be a quantizer of three when making XviDs, or a CRF setting of 18 or so when making x264 MKVs.

You are more aware of defects in Indian DVDs than I can even try to figure out.

After you've worked on a thousand or so of the damned horrible things, you'll know just as much.

[ConverterCrazy]

@manono

Thanks.

After you've worked on a thousand or so of the damned horrible things, you'll know just as much.

Wish it were true! Just managed to adjust volume levels and tonal quality in audio files. Any novice can do that much. But that seems end of it.

Thanks for your help.

[ConverterCrazy]

@manono

Thanks to your suggestions, I've been able to backup a few films by feeding Avisynth script into VDub. Few films because QTGMC() which is best is slow but 'cleans' defects thoroughly.

My script:

SetMemoryMax(1024)
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\mt_masktools-25.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\NNEDI3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\SmoothAdjust.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\MVTools2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\GScript.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\Grunt.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
Import("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\SRestore.avsi")
Import("C:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\QTGMC-3.33.avsi")

MPEG2Source("movie.d2v")
QTGMC()
SRestore()
SmoothTweak(Brightness=0.5,Contrast=0.9)

I set memory at 1024 in the hope it may speed up the process.

You wrote:

By the way, that one I kept at 25fps. For my own projects I slow both the video and audio back to film speed . That way the songs are back in tune and the movement is more natural. I can't believe that for films in which the songs are so important, the Indian media companies make all the songs out of tune - a semi-tone too high. If you know any musicians or any people with perfect pitch, ask them about it.

I've tried cleaning audio without success.

How do I add these 25fps in the script [with AssumeFPS(25)?] and after that deal with out of sync audio?

How can I add a little sharpness?

Thanks.

[manono]

I don't add audio into my scripts, unless I'm checking for synch. I work on the audio separately and add it in during encoding (for MP4) or authoring (if for DVD). I adjust the audio speed using BeSweet. Some use eac3to.

There are quite a few sharpeners available for AviSynth I usually use LimitedSharpenFaster or the sharpener in FFT3DFilter (which isn't all that good) if I'm using it in the script.

[ConverterCrazy]

Thanks.

So, I can add AssumeFPS(25) to the script without any worry?

[manono]

I doubt it, but I don't know the film you're working on or what the framerate is supposed to be.

Is it that script three posts above? And it comes out as 23.976fps after using SRestore on it? If so why would you want to speed it up? But, yes, if you want to speed it up, AssumeFPS(25) will do just that.

[ConverterCrazy]

MediInfo says: NTSC/Interlaced/29.970fps

and you hinted at

By the way, that one I kept at 25fps. For my own projects I slow both the video and audio back to film speed . That way the songs are back in tune and the movement is more natural. I can't believe that for films in which the songs are so important, the Indian media companies make all the songs out of tune - a semi-tone too high. If you know any musicians or any people with perfect pitch, ask them about it.

[manono]

All NTSC DVDs output interlaced 29.97fps.

I don't understand this:

and you hinted at

Maybe you misunderstood me, I don't know. I said I kept yours at 25fps, not because I thought 25fps was 'better' but because I didn't add in AssumeFPS(23.976) to whatever I used to unblend it. I also said for all my own projects, after unblending back to 25fps, I always slow it back to film speed.

[ConverterCrazy]

Thanks.

Yes, I misunderstood you. I thought you were suggesting 25frps.

Your original suggestion works great – for me.

QTGMC()
SRestore()

Thanks.

[ConverterCrazy]

If you're serious about deinterlacing, you'll want to get AviSynth up and running and use QTGMC. It's the best quality way to do it. As a stuck-on-handbrake user myself (much to the dismay of the members here who have helped me this far along already, I'm sure), I'll tell you that deinterlacing in Handbrake is bad.

Secondly, be sure it's actually interlaced, and not telecined. One way to do this is to load up a video player like mpc-hc and disable the internal deinterlace filter. You'll see the combing. Pause and advance frame by frame. If there's combing in every frame (check moving objects) then it's really interlaced. If there's a distinct 2-3-2-3 pattern (that is, 2 frames interlaced, 3 frames progressive) that's telecine. In AviSynth, you would need TIVTC to detelecine this.

Sorry for the delay in acknowledging.

Thanks for the tip! A new for me.