breaking news for dvdfab

[Seeker47]

My question is: Can the big powers stop consumers from using credit/debit cards to buy DVDFab?

The USA can force American banks to stop dealing with DVDFab. DVDFab will find a way around that.

I don't know if it is still the case, but for quite awhile PayPal was very lax about what sorts of goods and services its system could be used to pay for. (Despite any official TOS declarations.) Be that as it may, Paypal must have a couple dozen int'l. competitors by now. None of them has gained a whole lot of traction thus far, going up against PayPal's 1200 lb. gorilla, but that could change . . . .

[Mr.Delusional]

What I don't get is why just go after dvdfab why not anydvd, makemkv, dvd smith etc. Why not go after all the software companies that can "bypass decryption schemes" To me this is the start of a chess game. Or the start of a battle. If it were an all out war they should have had all the software companies ready for a checkmate. (sorta speak) It has to be politics and due to what regions/country those companies reside in. Any opinions on this subject without political crap?

[enim]

It was planned 3-to-4 before to take DVDFab down. We just saw action now.
It seems like they have collected information by going-thru' various post here and other video related sites.

[Gravitator]

Only need to give the opportunity to create HEVC-DVD (enough for full HD) as an alternative bluray? then it will reduce costs and needless final price (though what that variant in solving the problem / call interest among consumers)

[transporterfan]

What I don't get is why just go after dvdfab why not anydvd, makemkv, dvd smith etc. Why not go after all the software companies that can "bypass decryption schemes" To me this is the start of a chess game. Or the start of a battle. If it were an all out war they should have had all the software companies ready for a checkmate. (sorta speak) It has to be politics and due to what regions/country those companies reside in. Any opinions on this subject without political crap?

They had to go after someone, I guess. Why not DVDFab...it has a built in converter, Anydvd is just a ripper. Makes more sense they stop the software which makes it easiest to convert to a compressed format. MakeMKV is effectively freeware while in beta, so it is harder to justify seizing potential assets. Part of a chess game? Yes, and the other side is already sweating. At least two more companies have voluntarily decided to withdraw software which bypasses bluray protection (Aiseesoft (Chinese) and LG Software Innovations (Canadian)).

None of this is about politics. It's all about money. Law suits have to start somewhere and precedents have to be set. They can't sue everyone at once without looking like trolls. DVDFab is first, the rest will follow (in time) if the lawsuit has a successful outcome for them.

DVDFab not contesting the order was a huge blunder in my opinion. See TorrentFreak:

http://torrentfreak.com/companies-withdraw-blu-ray-rippers-following-dvdfab-lawsuit-140314/

[enim]

Only need to give the opportunity to create HEVC-DVD (enough for full HD) as an alternative bluray?

I would consider statement with a question mark as a question.

Answer is too complex and it requires root-level analysis, leaving it up to the readers rather than blindly supporting HEVC. I did not see any pros of HEVC as compared to H264/AVC so far. Readers and HEVC users chart pros and cons by themselves.

[Seeker47]

They had to go after someone, I guess. Why not DVDFab...it has a built in converter, Anydvd is just a ripper. Makes more sense they stop the software which makes it easiest to convert to a compressed format.

Fab's conversion functions have mostly received very-mixed-to-poor reviews here, and elsewhere. The ripping has generally been solid, I think, with occasional tech hiccups awaiting update fixes. Even the split-out-to-2-discs or selecting which items to keep and which to toss functions in Fab have been dicey, from what I've seen. Manual usage of the long discontinued DVD-Shrink has accomplished the latter with much better results.

[albertsmiths]

It will be easy to get dvdfab cause they can't block every site that hosts the downloads.

Yeah,I agree with the guy above. It is impossible to pull the DVDFab off the internet completely. That's really ridiculously to suspend or block the DVDFab's website.I also need to backup now and then. I am a user of this ripping software.I notice that the site dvdfab.cn has been used to take place of the original one.They also appeal to support and vote for DVDFab by establishing the site ilikedvdfab.com. I think we users should go to vote to protest our own right and interests.

[OllieTSB]

Seeker, I haven't had bad experiences with DVDFab's conversions although most discussions still rely on the free Decrypt services, which I can't find any problems with.

One thing I thought that's been funny - a few years ago, NetFlix caved into arm-twisting (actually, I think "big pay-off" or "big discount in disk purchasing" is the more accurate term) and said, "OK, for THESE studios, we'll withhold rentals for one month..."

Which was great for any NetFlix and DVDFab fan because that gave DVDFab the headstart to deliver their 'next update' to fix a not-ready-for-NetFlix-release DVD.

I notice that, despite this arm-twisting and the studios' claims that this delay would reinvigorate their markets, nothing like that has occurred. In fact, our local Fry's has gone from 10 store-width DVD aisles down to 3

I think if the Studios continue with this "re-invigorating" trend, "organ donor" is going to be their next claim to fame.

[enim]

Originally posted by OllieTSB

It's a good thing the USA no longer suffers from the Evil Ma Bell Monopoly, eh?
I think if the Studios continue with this "re-invigorating" trend, "organ donor" is going to be their next claim to fame.

This week-end I had been in New York to see & visit some one beloved. I had a chance to visit Brooklyn Museum, Chinese Museum, and couples of market places. I found DVDFab, among all others prominent S/Ws with valid upgradeable license in a grey/black market, any movie DVDs for $1/each, and plus all kinds of video games. You just name it, they got it. Grey/black market sale of DVDFab in US might have increased like crazy. There is in deed lots of need of house keeping within home-land.

If I shout "You are Dirty!" does not really mean that "I am Clean!"
I feel both shame and pity on...

[OllieTSB]

DVD fans have been watching the dwindling numbers of Classic DVDs offered for sale. Outside of Criterion, I don't think any studio offers Commercial-Pressed Classic DVDs for new-release sales anymore. (Oh wait - Universal Vault and Olive Studios have Pressed DVDs, as opposed of Made-On-Demand MOD DVDs.)

But the MOD and these Classic Film DVDs still sell well enough to have five big studios offering them. What they'd done, truly, is cut out the middleman AND jacked the prices up. But they continue to sell well. The market remains for classic films.

The production for commercial sale is what's dropped off, and "consumers not buying" is actually "we're refusing the make them available for sale". Yes - refuse to sell something and THEN complain that no one's buying them! I think this must be the Lucy School Of Lemonade-Stand Sales College mentality. "Charge a million - that way, you only hafta sell one." Uh huh.

THAT kinda brain-power is a leading force among studios and their distributorships. I'm not really sure what organs someone SHOULD accept from them, come to think of it. "After 5pm, slip brains thru slot in door" comes to mind.

[enim]

But the MOD and these Classic Film DVDs still sell well enough to have five big studios offering them. What they'd done, truly, is cut out the middleman AND jacked the prices up. But they continue to sell well. The market remains for classic films.

The production for commercial sale is what's dropped off, and "consumers not buying" is actually "we're refusing the make them available for sale". Yes - refuse to sell something and THEN complain that no one's buying them! I think this must be the Lucy School Of Lemonade-Stand Sales College mentality. "Charge a million - that way, you only hafta sell one." Uh huh.

- agreed and I like your frank response!

The country in which, I like and live, Wal-Mart is my major source for DVD and BDs among few others. I have to work hard to find cheap deals. I will keep my dollar ready during my next visit to New York or Florida.

Here one has to agree that all big (even small) production houses are concerned with expenses and REVENUE. They will never be interested in marketing 1520 BC movie called Astala Gusta with actor Larry Lapater and Juicy Luicy as there will not be sufficient market to meet expenses. So p-2-p or by some other means would not be bad idea for one and the only one who want to watch 1520 BC movie called Astala Gusta with actor Larry Lapater and Juicy Luicy. I have piles of original DVDs and BDs plus massive back-up. I hardly watch anything over.

When I had a wish to wach some classic OLD movies or Kirk Douglas, It is hard to find them on DVD or BDs in a local market in the country of my residence. I get some success on p2p, as some of the fans might have done fantastic job. That's how the great artist lives many lives in many hearts. We all are human at some point we hate, but of course We Do Love at some point.

That's why I always prefer fair & bi-directional WiN-WiN deals in business, where no body suffers, both the parties are happy.

[peleust]

Same here. I think those pieces are priceless. Or at least worth it for every penny that we spend.

[fritzi93]

Anyone else notice that DVDFab has been renamed to BluFab?

Whack-a-mole indeed.

[enim]

Anyone else notice that DVDFab has been renamed to BluFab?

Whack-a-mole indeed.

I missed that part. You possess very high skills for Pull! Bang! Darn!

[enim]

As far the chance is concerned, it is appropriate as blu(e) is taking over (every where).

[Seeker47]

I notice that, despite this arm-twisting and the studios' claims that this delay would reinvigorate their markets, nothing like that has occurred. In fact, our local Fry's has gone from 10 store-width DVD aisles down to 3

The Fry's I would prefer to shop at is a flagship location (San Marcos), much nicer than most I've been to. Much newer, cleaner and better organized than the others, some of which are atrocious. I don't know exactly what you could conclude from their DVD / BR section, which extends for several L O N G aisles. Of course, a surprising % of that is taken up by porn titles. (Or at least it was: this observation is not the most recent . . . )

The bigger news re Netflix is how much they have been switching to BR discs, and how so many of their discs are now special, limited ones, shorn of all Extras.

[OllieTSB]

I don't know exactly what you could conclude from their DVD / BR section...

Uh... 10 down to 3 aisles. Gee - I'd conclude "getting a LOT LOT SMALLER". Well, that's just me, though.

[hogger129]

What I never understood is why an exception in the law was never made, so that if you own a legitimate copy, you can't use these tools in order to make one backup copy for personal usage.

The studios will accomplish nothing by going after DVDFab. More programs like it will just pop up in its place to fill demand.

[johns0]

The law is you're not allowed to circumvent the copy protection,you can make backups as long as you don't circumvent the copy protection,it's a catch 22.

[jagabo]

Don't forget, Hollywood now writes the laws. Our governments just sponsor and sign off on them.

[tarzan54]

Don't forget, Hollywood now writes the laws. Our governments just sponsor and sign off on them.

Amen to that, Hollywood has all the money and that is were all the presidents get their money to run for office, Who else can afford $100 or $1,000 for a plate of food to raise money for their campaining, Like the old saying goes - You scratch my back and I will scratch yours.

[Seeker47]

I don't know exactly what you could conclude from their DVD / BR section...

Uh... 10 down to 3 aisles. Gee - I'd conclude "getting a LOT LOT SMALLER". Well, that's just me, though.

I meant that this location of theirs I mentioned seemed to be the exception, still with a huge stock and selection. Next time I'm there, I'll take a closer look to see if that is still the case.

[alan1476]

BLUFAB does not decrypt. Sad day in the world of movies..

[transporterfan]

Maybe the company should set up a shell company in the uk after July:

http://torrentfreak.com/uk-dvd-cd-ripping-will-legalized-summer-140328/

[ranchhand]

Interesting.... so what happens if DVDFab move its works to London next July? Will they still be shut down? After all, they are helping the consumer public make legal backup copies of their purchased disks. (?) I guarantee that the movie industry will still have DRMs on their DVDs, so what happens when John Q. Public tries to make a backup of his legal copy and is prevented by the movie industry?
From the link above:

What if a DVD or other media is protected by copy protection technology?
Media such as DVDs are often protected by anti-copying technology to guard against copyright piracy, and this is protected by law. Copyright owners will still be able to apply this protection. However, if copy protection is too restrictive, you may raise a complaint with the Secretary

They do not address the issue of circumventing the DRM on the disk to make your legal copy.

[Kerry56]

DVDFab will not be available for purchase in the US. http://club.myce.com/f62/dvdfab-only-available-customers-outside-united-states-335796/#post2723825

[Seeker47]

For purchase (at the moment) perhaps, but Fab is not hard to find, otherwise. The important question is whether the statement in post #84 is correct. That seems hard to believe, because then there would be little point in having the program, whether you bought it or . . . .

[Kerry56]

They have split the program. Blufab has no decryption, and I'm not sure it will ever succeed. Why would you want an inferior conversion program?

DVDFab (in all its variations) is the same as it ever was, with the exception that no one in the US can purchase it at the present time. Don't know how long that will be true.

[transporterfan]

They have split the program. Blufab has no decryption, and I'm not sure it will ever succeed. Why would you want an inferior conversion program?

DVDFab (in all its variations) is the same as it ever was, with the exception that no one in the US can purchase it at the present time. Don't know how long that will be true.

That leads to an interesting possibility. Charge the same for the non-bypass program and distribute a freeware decrypter plugin.
Only license the main program...torrent the other, or use cyberlocker model outside the US. Back to Whack-a-mole.