Doom9

[Guest34343]

It was neuron2 who suggested that, not jman98.

Did you miss this statement from jman98:

See the author originally only let his "friends" use it. It wasn't originally available to the unwashed masses like most of us here.

I was charitably assuming it was a closed beta and asked if that was the case.

I've reviewed posts at Doom9 going back to the origin of BDRB and I see no evidence that it was distributed only to a subset of users.

[gonca]

RE BRB
I believe the reference is actually to DVD RB (closed beta initially)
Does the software have/had bugs? Yes, but when I encountered them and posted the appropriate info it got dealt with.

Have I ever had a snarky or pompous response? Yes, once I believe, not from jdobbs or any moderator.
To each his own.

Re neuron2
I believe his name his Donald not Doug.
I have had some communication with him, via email about DGDecNV, and found him to be an agreeable and polite individual.

Doom9 (the forum) has many members with different personalities, just like Videohelp, some better some worse.

For the record I am a noob's noob. I can run command lines if I have to but batch scripts drive me nuts

[DB83]

Does Doom9 have a fungus forum

[gonca]

No, but I'm sure neuron2 would be happy to help us create a highly technical one.

[SallyDog]

If you're going to bitch about "Doug", at least get his name right.

[deadrats]

No, but I'm sure neuron2 would be happy to help us create a highly technical one.

especially if he could tireless promote and sell some semi-useful program he created.

[deadrats]

If you're going to bitch about "Doug", at least get his name right.

doug, dan, donald, duck, d...oh, wait baldrick asked that we don't call people that, i find it hard to care what his name is.

btw, i can't believe that i never noticed it before, baldrick's screen name is Bald Rick, i wonder if that's supposed to be an inside joke, i.e. his name is Rick and he's Bald, if that's the case good show, all these years and it never occurred to me until the guy with a dog named Sally decided to call me out on Daffy.

[Selur]

Oh boy, if it took you years to see that, I'm surprised that you see a merit in lossy video compression at all and that you are not praising the worth of only using lossless compression. (since hdd space isn't that expensive and so on)

[Guest34343]

RE BRB
I believe the reference is actually to DVD RB (closed beta initially)

I'm not even sure DVD-RB had a closed beta:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=458509&highlight=beta#post458509

And anyway, DVD does not support VC-1.

[gonca]

@neuron2

Could you help with DB83's wish.

[Guest34343]

I don't fully understand the request. You guys want a subforum at Doom9 dedicated to DVD fungus?

Mods can't create subforums and I strongly doubt that Doom9 would make one like that. But I see no reason why you couldn't post about it in the General subforum.

I hope I understood you.

[gonca]

neuron2
Look up threads by user gamemaniaco here at videohelp and you will get the joke. If you really have time to spare you can look him up on google

[usually_quiet]

I don't fully understand the request. You guys want a subforum at Doom9 dedicated to DVD fungus?

Mods can't create subforums and I strongly doubt that Doom9 would make one like that. But I see no reason why you couldn't post about it in the General subforum.

I hope I understood you.

DVD Fungus" is an inside joke of sorts, at least for a few VideoHelp members. The subject of DVD fungus will sometimes be brought up after a thread has essentially become a train wreck.

[deadrats]

Oh boy, if it took you years to see that, I'm surprised that you see a merit in lossy video compression at all and that you are not praising the worth of only using lossless compression. (since hdd space isn't that expensive and so on)

in case you aren't paying attention, i see very little merit to lossy compression for any non-streaming use and in all honesty, if gigabit bandwidth was widely prevalent, then i would advocate very high bit rate lossy encoding or better yet lossless encoding only.

the reality is that hdd and sdd technology are inverse proportionally competitive with video compression technology, as drive space increases and prices drop the need from a consumer viewpoint for better compression technology and consequently faster and faster cpu's decreases.

i think it speaks volumes that baldrick, who as far as i know owns videohelp.com. by his own admission, has not transcoded a video in 10 years.

[johns0]

It's for convenience sake that i re-encode videos such as tv dvd season dvds where they come on 6 discs so i put 22 episodes on one blu-ray.

[deadrats]

It's for convenience sake that i re-encode videos such as tv dvd season dvds where they come on 6 discs so i put 22 episodes on one blu-ray.

see, i just don't get that at all, you're losing quality by re-encoding, even if it's just a little, i don't see any reason to take 6 dvd's, rip them, re-encode and probably de-interlace them, then burn them to a blu-ray. how is that convenient, when you take into account the amount of time you spent and the money on the bd media you would have been better off just backing them up as they were to a cheap thumb drive, you can get a 128 gb usb 3 drive for $55:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/411158/128GB_SuperSpeed_USB_30_Flash_Drive_-_Gray

what's more convenient, ripping, re-encoding and burning onto an optical media that can get scratched and only holds 25gb's or backup to a thumb drive that holds 5 times as much?

[johns0]

Cause for me it's fun to go through the steps and then look to see how it all came together,i don't rely on thumb drives for keeping on long term where as disc are more reliable.Disc only get scratched if you get careless or have kids who have free run of playing them.

[Guest34343]

DVD Fungus" is an inside joke of sorts, at least for a few VideoHelp members. The subject of DVD fungus will sometimes be brought up after a thread has essentially become a train wreck.

Now I am an insider! Thanks for the explanation.

I've heard of mold on VHS tapes, especially in humid climates, but DVD fungus was a first for me.

[hello_hello]

It's for convenience sake that i re-encode videos such as tv dvd season dvds where they come on 6 discs so i put 22 episodes on one blu-ray.

see, i just don't get that at all, you're losing quality by re-encoding, even if it's just a little

Most of the time when I re-encode video, I apply some sort of filtering, so as far as I'm concerned I'm often improving the quality.

i don't see any reason to take 6 dvd's, rip them, re-encode and probably de-interlace them, then burn them to a blu-ray. how is that convenient, when you take into account the amount of time you spent and the money on the bd media you would have been better off just backing them up as they were to a cheap thumb drive, you can get a 128 gb usb 3 drive for $55:

QTGMC de-interlaces better than any hardware de-interlacer, which are generally Yadif type quality. I've got plenty of PAL 4:3 DVD encodes which were de-interlaced to 50fps, resized down to 640x480, required a third of the original bitrate, and look better than the original DVDs running fullscreen on my TV. If I crop them properly, I can use my PC for playback of 4:3 video without needing to put the TV into 4:3 mode to get it to overscan and remove the crud that way.
I hate DVD/Bluray menus with a passion. Give me 22 appropriately named MKVs in a folder or burned to disc any day.

what's more convenient, ripping, re-encoding and burning onto an optical media that can get scratched and only holds 25gb's or backup to a thumb drive that holds 5 times as much?

You've managed to buy thumb drives which can't be broken or lost, or the data on them accidentally erased?

[deadrats]

Most of the time when I re-encode video, I apply some sort of filtering, so as far as I'm concerned I'm often improving the quality.

you keep telling yourself that.

QTGMC de-interlaces better than any hardware de-interlacer, which are generally Yadif type quality.

now that's funny. i guess you didn't know that QTGMC used Yadif in the "ultrafast" setting for de-interlacing and for everything else it's basically TempGaussMC_beta2 with a bunch of denoise and sharpening filters.

it's one of those classic examples of way over-rated software with a blind devotion from people endowing it with near mystical abilities that are not warranted by reality.

i really doubt that any software based de-interlacer, including the highly over-rated QTGMC can de-interlace better than the high end stuff from Matrox or Elemental or Elecard or any of the pro caliber hardware used in broadcasting.

honestly, you guys with this silly worship of various opeb source projects like x264 or QTGMC are like these high school kids that buy a used civic and put those idiotic stickers of some kid pissing on a ford or chevy logo, that think their used 3 thousand dollar 4 cylinder honda is faster than a 40 thousand dollar 400+ horsepower mustang or camaro.

You've managed to buy thumb drives which can't be broken or lost, or the data on them accidentally erased?

yes, you know why? because i have a functioning brain. i keep my thumb drives in my desk drawer, i don't body slam the family dog on them, i don't throw them any old place and before i format a drive i check to see if there's anything on it.

you know, basically i dive deep into the skills that our ancestors had and i use the one called THINKING.

it seems many people have forgotten how to do that.

[johns0]

Err...ok.

[Gravitator]

Is mafia MPEG to blame / besieged the entire world with their patents! They did not become give video h.264/DVD in favor the whole gangs of manufacturers BD.
x265 - now one of them, patent demon!
I have no doubt that they are already sharpening their fangs (jackals) against Daala - the army of light.

[hello_hello]

Most of the time when I re-encode video, I apply some sort of filtering, so as far as I'm concerned I'm often improving the quality.

you keep telling yourself that.

You keep telling yourself otherwise if it makes you happy.

QTGMC de-interlaces better than any hardware de-interlacer, which are generally Yadif type quality.

now that's funny. i guess you didn't know that QTGMC used Yadif in the "ultrafast" setting for de-interlacing and for everything else it's basically TempGaussMC_beta2 with a bunch of denoise and sharpening filters.

it's one of those classic examples of way over-rated software with a blind devotion from people endowing it with near mystical abilities that are not warranted by reality.

i really doubt that any software based de-interlacer, including the highly over-rated QTGMC can de-interlace better than the high end stuff from Matrox or Elemental or Elecard or any of the pro caliber hardware used in broadcasting.

I don't own any pro calibre hardware used in broadcasting. Obviously the fact I was talking about consumer equipment needs explaining to you as much as aspect ratios do.

honestly, you guys with this silly worship of various opeb source projects like x264 or QTGMC are like these high school kids that buy a used civic and put those idiotic stickers of some kid pissing on a ford or chevy logo, that think their used 3 thousand dollar 4 cylinder honda is faster than a 40 thousand dollar 400+ horsepower mustang or camaro.

I don't worship anything. I've watched DVDs being interlaced by my video card, by my Bluray player/TV (wherever it's done) and I've compared the same video after it's been de-interlaced by QTGMC. The latter invariably looks better. You can prattle on about QTGMC using Yadif in ultrafast mode as much as you like.... I've never de-interlaced with it that way.

you know, basically i dive deep into the skills that our ancestors had and i use the one called THINKING.

Your posts would seem to indicate that's generally not the case.
You don't body slam the family dog on thumb drives, never misplace them, always thoroughly check a drive before formatting or deleting files, yet you think optical discs are a bad idea because they might get scratched. You're a funny fella.....

[mike20021969]

This thread has gone completely off-topic.
A good job it's not on the Doom9 forum.

[Selur]

nor really, there some moderator would have simply closed it and we would have been spared another lengthy 'deadrat-amusement'-group act.

[Clockwork]

...but DVD fungus was a first for me.

It was for most of us as well...

[PuzZLeR]

This thread has gone completely off-topic.
A good job it's [fungus] not on the Doom9 forum.

Then let me keep it on topic.

Doom9 being offline is indeed a form of fungus control.

[gonca]

Let the fungus be your guide, Luke.
With apologies to the original

[jdobbs]

I don't know where you get your information. -- but since I am the author of BD-Rebuilder I can tell you you are completely wrong. There has never been a closed beta.

It was neuron2 who suggested that, not jman98.

Possibly your exclusion from the closed beta has embittered you?

No. Neuron2 was responding to the post I quoted in which the poster said a "dirty little secret" was that I'd released it to a small group... That, by definition, is a closed beta.

Not that it would make any difference anyway. I have no idea why that would be such a big deal anyway... Or why it would be some kind of secret. It just wasn't true.

[El Heggunte]

This thread has gone completely off-topic.
A good job it's [fungus] not on the Doom9 forum.

Then let me keep it on topic.

Doom9 being offline is indeed a form of fungus control.

lol Lol LOL

Seriously now: that forum has TOO MANY moderators. And most of them are useless --- either they stopped logging in since 1975, or they don't like to be moderators (e.g., they DON'T reply to private messages, DON'T pay attention to reported posts, and so on). The site owner is well aware of the problem, yet he does NOTHING to solve it.