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    I downloaded an audiobook from Audible (part of Amazon) and found it saved as an ".aa" file. I can play it with their software on my PC, but I can't download it to my MP3 player, which only understands MP3.

    Obviously this is a DRM issue, as once it's an MP3 it can be copied anywhere.
    Which of course is what I want to do.

    I've looked around and can't find any simple free methods to convert .aa to mp3.
    Apparently you can use iTunes to burn to a CD and then rip it back, but I really don't want to have iTunes on my PC.

    Otherwise, I just play it and set Audacity to record. That works, but it runs in real time and I can't use the PC at all in case something makes a beep which will be recorded along with the playback.

    Is there a better way? Ideally, just remove the DRM to any normal audio format?
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    IF you have a lot of these I'd suggest investing in an mp3 player that CAN play audible files as is.

    If memory serves you need a PLAYFORSURE capable mp3 player. You should be able to find a used one online fairly easily.

    Otherwise if you only have a handful you want to convert I would suggest you keep doing what you are doing with the realtime dubs. I don't think there is a "crack" for audible.

    But getting the right hardware will let you play them as is, no fuss no muss.
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    Originally Posted by yoda313 View Post
    But getting the right hardware will let you play them as is, no fuss no muss.
    Or I could buy the book and pay someone to read it for me and record that.

    Sorry, but if you can't answer the question I asked, please don't waste your time and mine by answering a different question.
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    Or I could buy the book and pay someone to read it for me and record that.
    Umm I did suggest looking for a used model.
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    Originally Posted by yoda313 View Post

    Or I could buy the book and pay someone to read it for me and record that.
    Umm I did suggest looking for a used model.
    I tried to be polite, but you really are not helping.
    I've got a new MP3 player, and I have a bunch of tools for manipulating MP3 files.
    So, I want MP3.


    Anyway, I found this thread in another forum which has several solutions:

    Remove DRM from Audible's audio books (Removing copy-protection from .AA files)

    The one that looks the most promising is using an older version of Audible's player that can use Goldwave as a "device" and that in turn can write to wave or MP3.

    Or this method using dBPowerAmp.
    http://swankandswill.blogspot.com/2010/07/audiblecom-without-drm.html

    Both use Audible's own direct show filter as input.

    The alternatives use either Nero or iTunes, both ugly bloated monsters which I really don't want on my PC.
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    Originally Posted by AlanHK View Post
    ... I tried to be polite....
    But you're not doing very well at that ...

    Have you tried simply searching "convert .aa file"? There are tons of search results.

    If none of those is satifactory, just stream it to audacity as you tried before.
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    Aren't Audible's audio books copy protected?
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    Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Aren't Audible's audio books copy protected?
    Yes, obviously, that's the problem.


    Anyway, I used the "Audible Media Player Filter" which was originally part of their player. Now found at
    http://www.coolutils.com/Downloads/audibleMediaPlayerFilter.exe
    With that, there is an "Audible Words codec" installed in Windows, and .aa can be played as Direct Sound.
    So WMP etc can play it, and some utilities, like Goldwave, can open it.
    And then save it any format.

    One oddity: when opening in Goldwave the audio started wherever the position was the last time it was played. A useful feature if you are playing it and want to continue where you left off. But not if you're converting it.

    So I opened it in MPC and pushed it back to the beginning. Then when opening in Goldwave it got the entire file.

    So, problem solved, without buying a new audio player.
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    This is a personal pet peeve of mine: People so bored that they have to weigh in on questions and topics, even if they have no answer. Why?

    I once had a reply to a question that was something like, "I don't know the solution to your problem"

    Why write anything at all? Are these pathetic people so desperate to be part of something that they pathetically have to say something, even if it doesn't help?

    A related pet peeve is people who tell you you shouldn't need to do what you are asking about. Instead of helping, they pick apart your reasons for needing what you need.

    Just help or don't. Jeez!
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    Originally Posted by dwsiddall View Post
    This is a personal pet peeve of mine: People so bored that they have to weigh in on questions and topics, even if they have no answer. Why?

    I once had a reply to a question that was something like, "I don't know the solution to your problem"

    Why write anything at all? Are these pathetic people so desperate to be part of something that they pathetically have to say something, even if it doesn't help?

    A related pet peeve is people who tell you you shouldn't need to do what you are asking about. Instead of helping, they pick apart your reasons for needing what you need.

    Just help or don't. Jeez!
    You DO realize the humor of the fact that your post complaining about people that post things that don't answer the question asked is, itself, a post that doesn't answer the question asked? Are you now peeved at yourself for saying something, even if it doesn't help?
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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    That's the same as the "Play and record with Audacity (or whatever)" method also mentioned above, last year.

    aax is a higher quality version of aa.
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    So? That's the only way to do it: play+realtime capture.

    Not trying to co-opt your scoop, just reiterating that there's no getting around those constraints.

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    So? That's the only way to do it: play+realtime capture.

    Not trying to co-opt your scoop, just reiterating that there's no getting around those constraints.

    Scott
    Actually, there are, as I mentioned above last November, but no one seems to have actually read my posts.

    I don't know if it works for aax, but it certainly does for aa.
    Once you install the Audible codec, you can convert to MP3 using dBPoweramp or Goldwave just as fast as any other format conversion.

    There is another method someone has hacked up recently, also much faster than realtime, that apparently works for all formats.
    http://theaudiobookbay.com/forum/audiobook-software-apps-and-resources/audible-ripping/
    -- post 14 and following, "InAudible". Latest version at end of the thread.

    Haven't needed to try that myself, but others say it works.
    Very, VERY fast. On my test machine (2.2ghz i7), a 23 hour book can be decrypted, split and re-encoded in 5 minutes.
    It uses iTunes to burn the audio to a virtual CD, then rips that to MP3 or M4A/B.
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    No, it DOESN'T work for AAX. That's what I was referring to. AAX is encrypted.
    Only encryption workarounds are BRUTEFORCE (not likely or not worth it), and play+realtime capture (whether D->D or D->A->D).

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    No, it DOESN'T work for AAX. That's what I was referring to. AAX is encrypted.
    Only encryption workarounds are BRUTEFORCE (not likely or not worth it), and play+realtime capture (whether D->D or D->A->D).

    Scott
    I've checked into "inAudible" and it does work on aax, as above.
    (Note that .aa is also encrypted, but aax is higher quality and presumably harder encryption.)

    iTunes is "authorised" to play Audible tracks and has an option to burn to CD.
    That's automated to virtual CD, then ripped and converted. Very fast.
    The details are on a site that I probably shouldn't mention here but can PM you if you want.

    inAudible v0.49

    Features
    - Click once / one step conversion process
    - Decrypts Audible AA and AAX files
    - Supports MP3 (LAME) & M4B (NeroAAC) encoding
    - Reads Audible metadata and names and tags the output files appropriately
    - Will cut files using Audible chapter marks or split using silence detection
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    OK, if you say so. Only rarely use AA/AAX myself.

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    You can record to to mp3 by using audacity and choosing 'What u hear' with your sound card and exporting as mp3,only thing is you have to play the file in real time.
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    Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    You can record to to mp3 by using audacity and choosing 'What u hear' with your sound card and exporting as mp3,only thing is you have to play the file in real time.
    Why didn't anyone think of that before?

    Originally Posted by AlanHK View Post
    Otherwise, I just play it and set Audacity to record. That works, but it runs in real time and I can't use the PC at all in case something makes a beep which will be recorded along with the playback.
    Really, are all my posts invisible? Or is it just that no one can be bothered to read even the first post before responding with their great insight?
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    Originally Posted by AlanHK View Post
    Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    You can record to to mp3 by using audacity and choosing 'What u hear' with your sound card and exporting as mp3,only thing is you have to play the file in real time.
    Why didn't anyone think of that before?

    Originally Posted by AlanHK View Post
    Otherwise, I just play it and set Audacity to record. That works, but it runs in real time and I can't use the PC at all in case something makes a beep which will be recorded along with the playback.
    Really, are all my posts invisible? Or is it just that no one can be bothered to read even the first post before responding with their great insight?
    Sorry if i missed that line,i was looking to see if anyone posted 'what u hear',You aren't gonna much help with your attitude.
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    Originally Posted by johns0 View Post
    Sorry if i missed that line,i was looking to see if anyone posted 'what u hear',You aren't gonna much help with your attitude.

    Please feel free to repeat my own posts back to me in detail in case I misunderstood something that I wrote earlier.
    That would be so helpful.


    And no, no one did post "what u hear". Probably because anyone who has used Audacity to record obviously already knows this.
    Since "what u hear" includes every random beep your PC makes, it's not actually a good way to convert a 20 hour audio book if you need to use your PC at all.

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    Since I have solved the problem myself months ago, I'm unsubscribing from the thread so as not to get an alert every time someone wants to bitch at my lack of gratitude for whatever random factoid they felt compelled to post.
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    What? Did somebody say something?....hm, I guess not.


    BTW, up to the point where you responded to me today, there was no previous mention of "Inaudible.exe" - and I didn't read the link at the time, so I should be excused, right?

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    Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    What? Did somebody say something?....hm, I guess not.


    BTW, up to the point where you responded to me today, there was no previous mention of "Inaudible.exe" - and I didn't read the link at the time, so I should be excused, right?

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    I wasn't referring to you.

    More some who say things like "This thread wasn't helpful." and then reinvent the same method I explained last year.

    Or who repeatedly suggest the same methods that I listed in my very first post as unsatisfactory.

    I'm also weary of the several (or maybe just one in different guises) jerks who felt compelled post here only to slag me off.
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  23. Just remember to click that under his name guys.
    I sure did
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    Originally Posted by thebib62 View Post
    Just remember to click that under his name guys.
    I sure did
    Good luck with that.
    I'm happy if a moderator reviews the thread, you're the one who's been trolling.

    I asked an on-topic question, and researched it and answered it. You contributed nothing except whining and sniping.
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    i really must say that i am indeed pathetic and have nothing better to do right now other than to create an account to comment this one time and say op is a kind patient man who did in fact help me. i get paid because of the pains these people put other readers to so i must be impartial but none the less "Thermian's translator must be broken, never give up and never surrender, by Grabthars hammer you shall be avenged." -galaxy quest
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    Find the book somewhere else, (at another website), and that perhaps, could be in mp3. That's what I do. Check here on this site, for your book. May not be there, but this is just one example. All these audible books are free, and as I did say, they are MP3, that is true of MOST of them. Some are M4a, or M4b, which I have the program to convert them, and anyone can search for one, if they wish. There's plenty of those, that are free, and very easy to use.

    http://audiobookbay.nl/
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  27. Anyone know what the latest version of inaudible is? I have 1.97
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  28. Hello,

    I cannot convert AAX files with Inaudible 1.97 anymore

    Each time, the key cannot be found.

    Have you got an idea to use inaudible NG keys with inaudible to decrypt aax now ?

    Thanks
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    Hi there! Thank you all for the valuable advices.
    The solution which I found most helpful was the one in post #16.
    I have a problem though: now that I installed all the programs in the package, the new Audible audiobooks that I buy come as .aax. This is not convertible via goldwave any more and so I am back to the initial problem. I have tried to download Audible Manager again but it still comes in the old interface and downloads the books as .aax.
    Do you have any advices on how to download the books as .aa again and then use solution #16?
    Thanks a lot!
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