VIDEO_TS and VIDEO-RM fies

[Anonymous2]

I was sent a DVD with VIDEO_TS and VIDEO-RM fies. VIDEO_RM has bup/dat and ifo files. VIDEO_TS bup/ifo and vob files


I want to back up to my PC and burn a copy.As far as i understand this says you can copy files from a DVD by explorer without ripping. I tried that and burnt but it won't play on my TV.

I also ripped with dvd decrypter but all the files did not show. I am not sure if my drive is being read properly on laptop. Before I install DVD decrypter on this PC I would be interested inn feedback

[hech54]

Someone sent you a disc created with a DVD Recorder. DVDShrink MAY be able to create a normal, more compatible DVD of that for you.

[DB83]

That disk, or a copy-for-copy of it, will only play if your player is the exact same model as the person you sent it to you.

Normal rippers will not work with these. Older versions of Nero were able to extract the mpeg from the vobs. Video redo should also be able to do it.

You then re-author as a standard dvd.

[Anonymous2]

Someone sent you a disc created with a DVD Recorder. DVDShrink MAY be able to create a normal, more compatible DVD of that for you.

What is the difference between that and a commercial DVD with VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS?
What would i remove if anything?

Thanks

[Anonymous2]

That disk, or a copy-for-copy of it, will only play if your player is the exact same model as the person you sent it to you.

Normal rippers will not work with these. Older versions of Nero were able to extract the mpeg from the vobs. Video redo should also be able to do it.

You then re-author as a standard dvd.

it plays on my stand alone LG bluray bd350. The mpeg has to be extracted? Thanks

[DB83]

Ok. There are two types of RM disks -RM and +RM. The +RM behave like a standard dvd. The -RM was the type I described above. Since the original does play, you have a +RM

What you can try if you need to make a copy of it is to burn with imgburn but ensure that you include all the files and all the folders that are present on the original. Also use the same type of disk beit dvd+r or dvd-r

[Anonymous2]

Ok. There are two types of RM disks -RM and +RM. The +RM behave like a standard dvd. The -RM was the type I described above. Since the original does play, you have a +RM

What you can try if you need to make a copy of it is to burn with imgburn but ensure that you include all the files and all the folders that are present on the original. Also use the same type of disk beit dvd+r or dvd-r

Its ony 2 minutEs . What would happen if i converted the vob to dvd with CONVERTXTODVD? One vob has all the video

[DB83]

Try it. Also do the same with AVStoDVD

[Anonymous2]

Try it. Also do the same with AVStoDVD

i converted the vob to dvd with CONVERTXTODVD? One vob has all the video. It works ok plays on pc and on bluray thru TV.

So if it works its OK even though i only convertd one vob?It is just two mins long

Thanks

[Anonymous2]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Thanks for the help

[hech54]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

[Anonymous2]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

[hech54]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

DVDShrink fixed it so no worries. My old Philips DVDR985 used to do that sometimes but I think it only happened on RW discs that I was silly enough to try to edit with the recorder. That feature never really worked all that well.
I think my dad's Cyberhome recorder did that sometimes too.

[Anonymous2]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

DVDShrink fixed it so no worries. My old Philips DVDR985 used to do that sometimes but I think it only happened on RW discs that I was silly enough to try to edit with the recorder. That feature never really worked all that well.
I think my dad's Cyberhome recorder did that sometimes too.

its ok to have just the VIDEO_TS and VIDEO_RM?

[hech54]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

DVDShrink fixed it so no worries. My old Philips DVDR985 used to do that sometimes but I think it only happened on RW discs that I was silly enough to try to edit with the recorder. That feature never really worked all that well.
I think my dad's Cyberhome recorder did that sometimes too.

its ok to have just the VIDEO_TS and VIDEO_RM?

DVDs that you buy in the store do not have a VIDEO_RM folder.....only a VIDEO_TS folder and a (usually) empty AUDIO_TS folder. THIS is the default, defacto DVD "spec". All other variations sometimes work, sometimes don't work.....so it's in your best interest to change it to DVD Spec VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS.

[usually_quiet]

I was sent a DVD with VIDEO_TS and VIDEO-RM fies. VIDEO_RM has bup/dat and ifo files. VIDEO_TS bup/ifo and vob files


I want to back up to my PC and burn a copy.As far as i understand this says you can copy files from a DVD by explorer without ripping. I tried that and burnt but it won't play on my TV.

I also ripped with dvd decrypter but all the files did not show. I am not sure if my drive is being read properly on laptop. Before I install DVD decrypter on this PC I would be interested inn feedback

I think your disc was recorded in +VR mode because the file structure resembles that of a normal DVD video disc. Most DVD players can play +VR mode discs without a problem. However, -VR mode discs only play on the machine that recorded them. ...but its easy to tell them apart because -VR discs include a .VRO file instead of something that looks similar to the file structure on a normal DVD video disc.

If a +VR disc is incompatible with your player for some reason, then try DVDShrink, but otherwise you can quickly copy a whole disk recorded in +VR mode by creating an ISO image with ImgBurn and then using ImgBurn to burn the image to a blank DVD. -VR mode discs have to be handled differently.

[Anonymous2]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

DVDShrink fixed it so no worries. My old Philips DVDR985 used to do that sometimes but I think it only happened on RW discs that I was silly enough to try to edit with the recorder. That feature never really worked all that well.
I think my dad's Cyberhome recorder did that sometimes too.

its ok to have just the VIDEO_TS and VIDEO_RM?

DVDs that you buy in the store do not have a VIDEO_RM folder.....only a VIDEO_TS folder and a (usually) empty AUDIO_TS folder. THIS is the default, defacto DVD "spec". All other variations sometimes work, sometimes don't work.....so it's in your best interest to change it to DVD Spec VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS.

How do I do that? Do you mean just convert as i have done with convertxto dvd? If thats what you mean I have done that.Thanks

[hech54]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

DVDShrink fixed it so no worries. My old Philips DVDR985 used to do that sometimes but I think it only happened on RW discs that I was silly enough to try to edit with the recorder. That feature never really worked all that well.
I think my dad's Cyberhome recorder did that sometimes too.

its ok to have just the VIDEO_TS and VIDEO_RM?

DVDs that you buy in the store do not have a VIDEO_RM folder.....only a VIDEO_TS folder and a (usually) empty AUDIO_TS folder. THIS is the default, defacto DVD "spec". All other variations sometimes work, sometimes don't work.....so it's in your best interest to change it to DVD Spec VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS.

How do I do that? Do you mean just convert as i have done with convertxto dvd? If thats what you mean I have done that.Thanks

ConvertXtoDVD is not the way to do it.....but since we are only talking about a 2 minute clip don't worry about it.

[Anonymous2]

DVD shrink ripped it and i burnt to DVD. I reauthored and left main movie but the main movie seems to have been on it twice as the other movie id the same

Another common problem with DVDs with RM folders.

what causes it? And I have no RM only VIDEO_TS in the reauthored DVD file but the sound is on that

DVDShrink fixed it so no worries. My old Philips DVDR985 used to do that sometimes but I think it only happened on RW discs that I was silly enough to try to edit with the recorder. That feature never really worked all that well.
I think my dad's Cyberhome recorder did that sometimes too.

its ok to have just the VIDEO_TS and VIDEO_RM?

DVDs that you buy in the store do not have a VIDEO_RM folder.....only a VIDEO_TS folder and a (usually) empty AUDIO_TS folder. THIS is the default, defacto DVD "spec". All other variations sometimes work, sometimes don't work.....so it's in your best interest to change it to DVD Spec VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS.

How do I do that? Do you mean just convert as i have done with convertxto dvd? If thats what you mean I have done that.Thanks

ConvertXtoDVD is not the way to do it.....but since we are only talking about a 2 minute clip don't worry about it.

What is the way to change it to DVD Spec VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS..? I want to protect this. it is very important. It is not just a clip but a short film. Thanks

[hech54]

The VOB file on the DVD is obviously already DVD compliant MPEG2. For the simple task of changing the container from VOB to MPEG without re-encoding....I'd open the VOB(the one that has the actual video in it) in AviDemux(allow AviDemux to INDEX the video), set both video and audio to COPY.....set Format to MPEG-PS.....Save As: Your Clip Name.MPG and be done with it.
Now you have an exact copy of what's on the DVD without re-encoding(I'm assuming ConvertXToDVD re-encodes unnecessarily - many programs do).
Author a new DVD from the clip(if necessary).

[Anonymous2]

The VOB file on the DVD is obviously already DVD compliant MPEG2. For the simple task of changing the container from VOB to MPEG without re-encoding....I'd open the VOB(the one that has the actual video in it) in AviDemux(allow AviDemux to INDEX the video), set both video and audio to COPY.....set Format to MPEG-PS.....Save As: Your Clip Name.MPG and be done with it.
Now you have an exact copy of what's on the DVD without re-encoding(I'm assuming ConvertXToDVD re-encodes unnecessarily - many programs do).
Author a new DVD from the clip(if necessary).

OK thanks for the explanation I will do that

[hech54]

The easiest way is to open the VOB in MPEG-VCR then save it that way.....but it's not free. Best $19 I ever spent though.

[Anonymous2]

The easiest way is to open the VOB in MPEG-VCR then save it that way.....but it's not free. Best $19 I ever spent though.

What does re-encodes unnecessarily mean? MPEG-VCR sounds familiar I think my friend has it

[DB83]

The program you are using is designed to take any type of video and encode it into dvd-compliant files.

So, if your video was alreadt dvd-compliant (which in your case it was), unless it recognises that the video is compliant and is programmed not to encode it again, it will un-neccessarily re-encode. Chances are the that the bit-rate on the new encode is different to your original and there will be a loss of quality in the mpeg video.

There are other options which are free.

You extract the mpeg video from the vob using vob2mpeg

Then you use avs2dvd to create the dvd files. No re-encoding takes place

Finally, you burn the dvd folders to disk using imgburn

All this is overkill for a 2 minute disk and you could simply make a new disk if you followed the earlier instructions and burnt ALL the folders to a new disk.

[Anonymous2]

The program you are using is designed to take any type of video and encode it into dvd-compliant files.

So, if your video was alreadt dvd-compliant (which in your case it was), unless it recognises that the video is compliant and is programmed not to encode it again, it will un-neccessarily re-encode. Chances are the that the bit-rate on the new encode is different to your original and there will be a loss of quality in the mpeg video.

There are other options which are free.

You extract the mpeg video from the vob using vob2mpeg

Then you use avs2dvd to create the dvd files. No re-encoding takes place

Finally, you burn the dvd folders to disk using imgburn

All this is overkill for a 2 minute disk and you could simply make a new disk if you followed the earlier instructions and burnt ALL the folders to a new disk.

post 6?

I was interested in learning more. If you do not want to answer you are not obliged to. I consider it a very important 2 minutes

[DB83]

Post #6 and post #16 which explains another method but has the same result.

I did not say the video was over-kill. Only you can judge that. The process is over-kill.

If the person sends another disk to you then you really need to tell him/her to record that in Video Mode not Video Recording Mode. That is a simple mistake to make.

Sometimes you learn by reading and trying these things out.

[Anonymous2]

Post #6 and post #16 which explains another method but has the same result.

I did not say the video was over-kill. Only you can judge that. The process is over-kill.

If the person sends another disk to you then you really need to tell him/her to record that in Video Mode not Video Recording Mode. That is a simple mistake to make.

Sometimes you learn by reading and trying these things out.

OK thanks. No offence, I just meant, sometimes you seem annoyed to have to explain, you are not obliged to. Maybe I picked it up wrong

I am going to use imgburn. Is this what you mean by post 6

The process is over-kill.

I enjoy learning the other ways to do things

If the person sends another disk to you then you really need to tell him/her to record that in Video Mode not Video Recording Mode. That is a simple mistake to make

it came from a company i have no choice, must be their default way of puttinmg stuff on disk

Thanks

[DB83]

No offence taken.

If that 'company' are transfering to dvd as 'pros' - meaning you are paying them for the privilege - then they simply do not know what they are doing.

[Anonymous2]

No offence taken.

If that 'company' are transfering to dvd as 'pros' - meaning you are paying them for the privilege - then they simply do not know what they are doing.

No it is a company i did work for before and had not got a copy of the production. That is what they sent, I did not pay

So is post 6 referring to an iso image with imgburn?

[DB83]

No. Post #6, my post, tells you to burn the folders to disk with imgburn. Post #16 mentions the iso image. An image .iso is an EXACT copy of your disk and you do not have to worry about the individual folders. You still use imgburn, in a different mode, to burn that to a disk.