Is it possible to use Blu-ray structure with DVD+R?

[Big-Louis-1971]

People I encoded a video small enough to fit it into a DVD+R with menus and all. After I burned it the Blu-ray player gave me a "Cannot operate this disc" message. How can I make work such a disc?

[manono]

How can I make work such a disc?

How did you author it for Blu-Ray? And not all players will accept Blu-Ray burned to a DVDR.

[Big-Louis-1971]

I used TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4.0.11.39 and my player is a Sony BDP-S5100.

[jman98]

I cannot say that this is absolutely the case for your Sony player as I deliberately do not buy or keep up with Sony players, but some BD players are known to require that BluRay content on DVD discs be in AVCHD format and not BD format. I know nothing about TMPGenc Authoring Works, but you might try having it produce AVCHD output if you can. If you have a DVD+RW disc, try burning to that so you don't waste a disc while testing. Sony does actually support AVCDH format so that really should work.

[usually_quiet]

People I encoded a video small enough to fit it into a DVD+R with menus and all. After I burned it the Blu-ray player gave me a "Cannot operate this disc" message. How can I make work such a disc?

I would not expect to find any Blu-Ray player, let alone one from Sony that accepts Blu-Ray authored material on a DVD. AVCHD was developed jointly by Sony and Panasonic for the purpose of storing and playing HD video on DVD. Not all Blu-Ray players accept AVCHD discs, but yours does and that is what you should be using for authored HD material on DVD.

The manual for your player doesn't go into detail on the type of content allowed for each of the optical disc types it plays. However, I have the manual for an LG model handy which does list the playable content for each type of disc media, so I looked at it for comparison. DVD video mode discs, DVD + video data files and DVD + AVCHD are on the list. DVD + Blu-Ray is not.

[jman98]

I would not expect to find any Blu-Ray player, let alone one from Sony that accepts Blu-Ray authored material on a DVD. AVCHD was developed jointly by Sony and Panasonic for the purpose of storing and playing HD video on DVD. Not all Blu-Ray players accept AVCHD discs, but yours does and that is what you should be using for authored HD material on DVD.

Some of the Chinese ones allow BD format on DVD discs, even though it's outside the standards. It's just like putting DVD content on CD-R discs. It is or at least years ago it was possible to find players that let you do it, but it's outside the standards to support it. I've got an Insignia BluRay player and I'm sure it allowed BD content on DVD discs to be played, but it has been a while since I've tried to do anything like that.

[wulf109]

I burn BlueRay structure to DVDR and DVD-DL frequently and my Sony 380 and 370 play them without any problem. Same for my LG630. My LG125 does require AVCHD however. It doesn't seem that playing BR on DVD is that uncommon or am I missing something?

[johns0]

My sony bdps-380 blu-ray won't play blu-ray structure on dvd,has to be avchd.

[Big-Louis-1971]

But can I make menus with the AVCHD file structure and what tool should I use for such a task?

[Kerry56]

^MultiAVCHD

[johns0]

Multiavchd for menus and non menu or tsmuxer for non menu only.

[Big-Louis-1971]

Thanks, I'll try MultiAVCHD and post the results.

[Big-Louis-1971]

It worked people but with a simple menu. Now I need to figure out how to do better menus. The files weren't even re-encoded and remained almost the same size. The whole process took less than twenty minutes. The best thing is that the program is free. Bottom line, I'm 100% happy with the program.

[october262]

try dvdfab blueray to dvd option

[racer-x]

Try AVCHDpatcher on your original bluray structure, then burn to dvdr. Should work, I do it all the time for small sized projects. Works fine on my Panasonic BluRay player and many others I've tried.

#Note: You need to keep bitrate below 20 mbps when using dvd media.

[PuzZLeR]

The below are not standard with the BD spec:
BD video on a DvD disc
DvD video on a BD disc


Playback of such content is only subject to the player's leniency and/or ability. There is no obligation or promise, only an x-factor.


The below are also, just the same, not standard with the BD spec:
DvD video on a DvD disc
AVCHD on anything

However, they are added by many/most players as features. Yes, DvD video on a DvD is actually just a feature (but a can't-be-without one). So is AVCHD, but the player should announce it, such as with a logo, very much like later generation CD players allow non-standard MP3 - as a feature.