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  1. I record many tv programs (raw transport stream). Some I can smart render, others I cannot, and i just dont understand why as they are the same format, same profile etc....

    i used media info to analyse a file that could be smart rendered, and one that can't. see below:

    http://imgur.com/a/ituwh#0








    Can anyone see the difference? can anyone see why i can smart render one and not the other?
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    Could be the bitrate. The one that works shows as 9666Kbps. The one that can't shows as 10.4Mbps. Might be too high.
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    Isn't the file on top encrypted?
    Last edited by sanlyn; 21st Mar 2014 at 10:59.
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  4. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Isn't the file on top encrypted?
    That was my thought too. "NDS Videoguard 1/2"
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  5. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    Isn't the file on top encrypted?
    this ones also encrypted but works fine
    http://imgur.com/a/ituwh#2


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    The first encrypted file that won't render is encrypted with Dataguard. The encryption on the other one isn't identified, but most apps won't violate Dataguard . Try another app.

    In the future save yourself some image making and use copy the text and paste here. Might be a good idea to avoid JPG for text images and line art. Try PNG if you don;t knbow how to copy and paste from text or html view.
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  7. I'm surprised TMPGENC can do anything at all with Videoguard encrypted files.
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    Few years back I recorded a movie off Fox Movie Classics onto a DVD recorder hard drive. Recorded and played OK, but
    was marked copy-once in the recorder's HDD menu directory. Transferred to DVD-RAM OK, but the original recording was
    deleted off the HDD. Put the DVD-RAM into the PC and imported the video into Smart Renderer's predecessor (MPEG Editor
    v3). Showed up fine in the edit and preview windows, but only one problem: the vid moved forward for about 5 seconds and
    then froze. Then I noticed that the play and scroll icons in the edit window worked OK (for 5 seconds, anyway), but the CUT
    and GO TO END icons were grayed out. So TMPGEnc Editor v3 would spend 10 minutes importing the whole 90-minute
    copy-once movie as one big MPEG, but refused to process it. Seems they would be polite enough to save you some time
    with a warning at the outset, but they don't.
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  9. Originally Posted by sanlyn View Post
    So TMPGEnc Editor v3 would spend 10 minutes importing the whole 90-minute
    copy-once movie as one big MPEG, but refused to process it. Seems they would be polite enough to save you some time
    with a warning at the outset, but they don't.


    thing is i can still edit and process it fine. I just cannot smart render it - meaning - the program has to encode the entire thing rather than doing the lossless thing (smart render).


    so TMPGEnc can still play with the file, edit it, output it fine - it just wont do it smartly....
    are you saying that in your case you couldnt even edit the file?
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    It could depend on many factors. For one thing, expect the unexpected when different forms of encryption/copy-protection have been applied to a video. Also, there are many settings in all smart-rendring apps that affect the ways that rendering engines operate: filters applied, bitrate or other setting changes, etc., or the app could have detected something "non-compliant" in the video and tried to correct it.
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