avi to dvd with imgburn - help needed

[adventurousman]

hey guys,

so I'm using imgburn to burn my avi files to dvd. I've done this in the past like 30 times and they have all played on my dvd player.

I usually burn 3-4 movies in one dvd but last time when I did this (with 10 dvd's) 1 of them didn't play at all. Others played one or two movies and the rest weren't there and one played the movie half and then stopped so what would be the cause of this?

Can it be the size of those movies like mostly sizes are 700mb to 1.36gb but some of those movies did have 2.5gb size, can that be the cause? Or the writing speed needs to be changed? I also don't make a folder, should I make a folder or just placing files directly is enough?

I don't have a dvd player here so I can't test it either. I burn 10 dvd's for someone and then give it to them and then they watch movies but this time some of it didn't work but it played fine on my PC and the job was also successfully finished.

I don't have the logs nor the dvd player and I don't think it is the player as it has played avi files in the past just fine. There is a dvd which contains 5 movies and all play fine.

Can it be that the disc needs some space and it shouldn't be full 100%? like maybe 90% full? Or that doesn't make any difference?

also does it need to be ISO + joliet or ISO + UDF? It was joliet (the last time)

I also remember a message mentioning something about divx, don't remember exactly what it was, I just okay it.

Any help is highly appreciated.

thanks

PS: I'm asking these questions because I don't want to send blank dvd's to this person and I've no way of knowing before hand if they work on dvd player as I don't have it.

[Kerry56]

Since they play on your computer off the disc, it probably isn't anything to do with how you've burned them. Avi is just a container, the codecs used can vary, and the encoding parameters of those videos can also be all over the map. The dvd player in question probably wants divx or xvid video codec in an avi file using a certain range of resolution, bitrate, audio format, etc.

And there are certain types of encoding settings that can cause problems in stand alone players. Qpel and warppoints are two common stumbling blocks.

Examine a file that you know plays correctly in the player with MediaInfo. Then compare that file to one you know does not play.

If Imgburn interrupts your burn and asks to change a setting for you, let it do so.

[adventurousman]

so u mean it might be the rips of those movies? I don't have access to the files that don't play. All I can do now is download new files and burn them and hope they play on dvd player

so what can I do? Just burn it and then see if it worked or not? Any settings on imgburn? Is it okay to go to 100% or close to it or should it be 80-90%? what about the speed or should I leave it on auto or should I set it to 4x?

[Kerry56]

Keep copies of the movies this time. Note which ones play on this player, and which ones don't. Compare the specifications of the movies using MediaInfo (I find the Tree view within MediaInfo to be the best). You can post the information from the movies in this thread (I'd erase the names of the movies first). If you cannot spot the problem areas in the encoding settings for those videos that don't play, I'm certain the members of this forum can.

Getting close to 100% of the disc is ok as long as you are using excellent quality discs. This means Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim or FTI Falcon blank dvds. If you are using anything else, it would be prudent to reduce the amount of data, just so you don't burn too close to the edge of the disc where many poor quality discs tend to fail.

Speed of the burn also depends on the quality of the blank dvds and the type of burner you are using. Don't burn at full speed in any type of burner. If you are using a desktop burner, burn 16x rated discs at 8x or 12x using good quality discs. If using crapola discs, take that down to 6x to 8x at most. If using a usb connected drive, or a laptop burner, burn at 4x, possibly 6x depending on the quality of the discs.

[adventurousman]

I've dvd-r "platinum" says 16x speed, so I should burn it at 8x speed, rite?

also what would u recommend with these discs? I don't think they're that good but all the movies I've burned using imgburn have been good except recently.

Can it be the size of those movies like mostly sizes are 700mb to 1.36gb?

I also don't make a folder, should I make a folder or just placing files directly is enough?

also does it need to be ISO + joliet or ISO + UDF? It was joliet (the last time)

[Hoser Rob]

You should ensure that the video format of the problem files is compatible with your dvd player ... which should be in the player's documentation ... before going through any more dvd blanks.

As mentioned, just because the file has a .avi extension doesn't mean much. There are rips out there that were encoded by know nothings to h.264 and put in an avi container. Those will play fine with a decent player on a computer but not a dvd player.

Your dvd player manual may tell you which video formats it can play rather than codecs. Here's something that explains the difference:

http://avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=general:common_myths

And mediainfo will tell you both the format and the codec used on those files.

[jman98]

It could be a million different things and I lack the patience to jump into a long examination of every possibility, but I will say that standalone DVD players typically prefer ISO+Joliet over UDF. If you must use UDF than it needs to be version 1.02 for the best chance of success. Any version above 1.02 may have playback problems on a DVD player.

Also DVD players have limits on AVI file size usually, so anything over 2 GB may not play on some players.


Just burning the files in the root directory rather than placing them underneath it in folders is fine. That's not your problem.

[adventurousman]

Thanks guys

I'm just gonna burn it and see what happens. The thing is I've no access to the dvd player so can't do any of those things.

over 2gb is fine in that player as I've burned close to 4.7gb every time.

yes, last time it was iso+joliet so I'll just go with that

[Noahtuck]

over 2gb is fine in that player as I've burned close to 4.7gb every time.

He means the size of a SINGLE file not the entire size of the disc being filled up with multiple files.

[adventurousman]

I only burn file size of 1.45gb or 700mb so in this case 1.45 gb is okay

I also found out that some files might have been .mkv and maybe that's why they didn't play? Now I'm making sure all files are avi

thanks