VSO Convertxtodvd doesn't use the whole blank dvd5

[tarzan54]

Just tried the new version of VSO Convertxtodvd (5.0.0.75) and it still isn't using the whole dvd5, This is a very good program but after all these updates you would think they would have fixed this, The avi file I tried still only goes to about 2.1gb, Maybe I'm not doing the settings correctly, Any suggestions?

[redwudz]

Or the quality of the file you converted wasn't high enough for ConvertX to expend the extra bitrate. That's what I have seen in the past.
Especially when converting something like a 'typical' 700 MB AVI file to DVD. Adding more bitrate/size doesn't necessarily improve quality.

On the other hand, I haven't used ConvertXtoDVD lately.

[tarzan54]

Thanks redwudz, The file size I did was 1.4GB, I then tried the same file with AVStoDVD and the output size was 4.3GB, Now I will see if there is a difference in the quality.

[Budman1]

I've been Beta testing Version 5 since it came out and the developers have been diligently making changes to fix all the noted errors/problems/wishlists, etc but this question about filling the entire DVD has been asked many times, even by me, so I will pass the information I received along. Basically it is as Redwudz has stated earlier. The entire answer I got is below and the posted link is quite good at explaining.

There is no magic that can be done. We can’t make 1000 cookies out of a recipe and the ingredients that have only been
provided for a batch of 36 cookies.


Video conversion is the same way. If you do find a converter that can do this then result must just be tricking you.
You cannot make up quality or movie scenes that did not exist in the original. We could made a video converter that would fill a dvd but you would notice not difference on the quality.

It is rather complexe to understand. A very good post on this has been written here by our main developer (username:
dictator)

http://forums.vso-software.fr/answers-to-most-of-your-conversion-questions-t11326.html

If you really want to blow up the size use SP (short project) and check Maximize bitrate. However VSO Default values are
what we suggest: Automatic and not checking maximize bitrate

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[humpyco]

VSO Convertxtodvd 5 RE: Using full DVD5 disk.


I set the custom size to 4410 and then use "short" project settings. It will fill it that way.


Also, I usually put 3 movies on a disk, so I'm not really trying to upsize the vid quality.

[tarzan54]

Budman, Thanks that was very interesting info. humpyco, Thanks for your help but it sounds like there will be no difference in video quality wheather the dvd5 is full or not, I always thought the video quality would be better with a larger file but you learn something different all the time,So if I want a full disk I can always use AVStoDVD which I'm not sure how their making the file large enough to fit on a dvd5.

[manono]

I think he's being a little bit disingenuous with that explanation. Of course you can make it fill the DVD5 (if it's long enough to begin with) and of course the quality will be better the larger the file size. However, your eyes may not be able to tell it's better. And since you're beginning with a heavily compressed and poor quality AVI ('poor' compared to the source DVD or whatever), that'll make it even harder to tell the difference between (for example) your ConvertXToDVD 2.1 GB version and one twice as large made to fill the DVD5 using the same program. For example, he says this:

If you do find a converter that can do this then result must just be tricking you.

And I say nonsense. The larger the filesize the more transparent the result as compared to the 'source' - the closer to the original it'll be. Lots of us like to squeeze the very last drop of quality out of an encode. Of course, those that are so particular don't usually use ConvertX.

So if I want a full disk I can always use AVStoDVD which I'm not sure how their making the file large enough to fit on a dvd5.

Higher average bitrate, of course. And you can choose a much better quantization matrix than the standard one ConvertX uses.

[dfisher052]

I have been using version 3.8.0.193 for quite some time. I have Target Size set at 4400 MB. I always get a full disc.

[tarzan54]

Thanks people, I had it set to dvd5, So now I will try it using custom size and setting it to 4400MB.