DVDStyler Choppy Video after burning

[ILoveEDM]

When I burn this movie to DVD using DVDStyler I get choppy video. I don't know why this is happening because it is 23.976 fps.

General
Complete name                    : bb.mpg
Format                           : MPEG-PS
File size                        : 2.09 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 20mn
Overall bit rate                 : 2 137 Kbps

Video
ID                               : 224 (0xE0)
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=18
Duration                         : 2h 20mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 1 711 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Standard                         : NTSC
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.206
Stream size                      : 1.67 GiB (80%)

Audio
ID                               : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Muxing mode                      : DVD-Video
Duration                         : 2h 20mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Delay relative to video          : -8ms
Stream size                      : 385 MiB (18%)

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I'm guessing it's because it's M=3, N=18 when it should be M=3, N=12.
I used Avidemux to convert an .mkv to .m2v. If I go to Avidemux and change the Gop Size from 18 to 12 will that fix it?

[davexnet]

NTSC dvd video should be 29.97 fps. Somewhere or other,
there should be a 23.976 > 29.97 pulldown step.

[manono]

Right, and because it's not DVD compliant I suspect DVDStyler reencodes. It has to as it will never author in the state it's in. Maybe the jerkiness resulted from the reencode (perhaps it added a duplicate frame in every 5).

If I go to Avidemux and change the Gop Size from 18 to 12 will that fix it?

No. Although it'll never author with the original GOP settings (and they have to be changed), it'll be reencoded anyway (unless DVDStyler can be told to just to apply 3:2 pulldown, which I doubt). Never used it myself, and any video to be authored should be DVD compliant already.

[videobruger]

Is DVDStyler using "Copy" for the video?

Try using the original MKV and let DVDStyler do the encoding.

[ILoveEDM]

Is DVDStyler using "Copy" for the video?

Try using the original MKV and let DVDStyler do the encoding.

I encode it myself using Avidemux because HCgui didn't want to do it and I only do it like that because if I let DVDStyler encode it it'll make it bad quality. :/ The weirdest thing of all is HCgui didn't want to so maybe it's something with the original file that it doesn't like. I have no idea. I use FitCD with HCgui normally and have no problem but when that doesn't work and I do it with Avidemux putting the filters FitCD has it comes out choppy when burned.

General
Unique ID                        : 210574242727084249082068282965420999785 (0x9E6B1FBBBE1F7B62AD2A0FEC1DC90469)
Complete name                    : bb.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 5.20 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 20mn
Overall bit rate                 : 5 318 Kbps
Movie name                       : BB
Encoded date                     : UTC 2012-07-16 13:58:42
Writing application              : mkvmerge v5.7.0 ('The Whirlwind') built on Jul  8 2012 20:08:51
Writing library                  : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 6 frames
Format settings, GOP             : M=4, N=42
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 2h 20mn
Bit rate                         : 4 562 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 2.40:1
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.282
Stream size                      : 4.36 GiB (84%)
Title                            : BB
Writing library                  : x264 core 125 r2200 999b753
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4562 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                         : English

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : DTS
Format/Info                      : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID                         : A_DTS
Duration                         : 2h 20mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 755 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 24 bits
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Stream size                      : 756 MiB (14%)
Title                            : BB
Language                         : English

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[manono]

What's the script you're using? Short before and after samples, 10 second ones with steady movement, might be helpful too. Particularly, the AviDemux result should pinpoint the problem.

Doesn't HCEnc give you an error message? What is it?

You're not intending to stick a big DTS audio track into a DVD5, are you? Shouldn't you convert it to AC3 and extract it for muxing later?

[DB83]

23.976 fps is ok as long as 3:2 pull-down has been applied in the encoding process. I really do not know if avidemux can do this but I would have thought that Henc can.

But I think your real problem, along with the above, is the bitrate of the video. 1711 kbps is simply too low. You said that Henc was giving poor quality but even discounting the jerkiness you surely can not say that the picture currently looks great.

[manono]

23.976 fps is ok as long as 3:2 pull-down has been applied in the encoding process. I really do not know if avidemux can do this but I would have thought that Henc can.

Yes, HCEnc will encode at progressive 23.976fps and apply pulldown. I suspect the jerkiness is from AviDemux inserting a duplicate frame after every 4 frames to output the required 29.97fps and that would easily account for the jerkiness. That's why I asked for samples. I don't use AviDemux for anything and have no idea how it encodes for DVD.