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    Originally Posted by Selur View Post
    just as a side note: adding pipe and avisynth input can come
    IF the whole thing is more mature.
    I disagree. Support for stdin and AVS files is quite useful to the end-users and trivial to implement (for the skilled programmers), therefore it should be present since "right now", no matter how "ugly" the source-code is A.T.M.
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    this whole thing about other container support makes me sad and adds distrust in the development teams of video processing utilities. as a long time programmer i see no reason to develope an (crippled) encoder and say that it is not at the top of a list of priorties or other nonsense reason to include support. if i were a c/c++ skilled programmer i would have added the avisynth or other proxy/frameserve support. heck, if i knew how to write a proxy (frameserver) mechanism i would just create one so we could all move foward in this new encoder.

    in fact, from this point forward, anyone who creates a spinoff h265 encoder, should brand it a new name, VH265 sounds good to me. enough of this nonsense. lets move forward, and figure out how to write are own frameserve!
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    Well here is a video and information on how to insert a video. H265 in mp4 container with GPAC

    MPEG-HEVC Support in GPAC

    mp4 video play slow with virtualdub capture.I have renamed video.hm10 to video.h265

    http://youtu.be/1UhH3dQNGL0

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    General
    Complete name                            : C:\mp4test\video.mp4
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media
    Codec ID                                 : iso4
    File size                                : 14.1 MiB
    Duration                                 : 3mn 56s
    Overall bit rate                         : 499 Kbps
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-08-03 19:50:24
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-08-03 19:50:24
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : HEVC
    Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Codec ID                                 : hvc1
    Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Duration                                 : 3mn 56s
    Bit rate                                 : 497 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 2 290 Kbps
    Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
    Height                                   : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.022
    Stream size                              : 14.0 MiB (100%)
    Title                                    : h265:FMT=HEVC@GPAC0.5.1-DEV-rev4692
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-08-03 19:50:24
    Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-08-03 19:50:25
    Happy testing
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    just a question, i'm pretty sure some of you mentioned something about using mencoder to pipe non-y4m video to x265, has anyone tried anything like this:

    https://sites.google.com/site/linuxencoding/x264-encoding-guide

    i would try it myself but i've been trying a number of half-assed approaches to see if i can "trick" existing open source apps that use x264.exe into thinking x265.exe is x264 and getting it to encode hevc thinking it's avc.

    it's not going well, but i still have a few tricks up my sleeve.
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    Originally Posted by xooyoozoo
    I got some time to test x265 on an old Windows Core 2 Duo using the ref pdf's settings (and bframes) and using a couple 1080p JCTVC test clips. There hasn't been any qualitative comments on x265, so I'll offer a few cursory ones.

    Quality via MS-SSIM is roughly mid-teens percentage worse than anchor HM11 (parkscene, cactus). MS-SSIM quality versus VP9-cpu-0 on same clips (w/ 1 sec keyints) is strictly better. Subjective quality versus VP9-cpu-0 is distinctly better at QP32, mainly through temporal stability.

    Speed on 2-thread x265 is comparable to single-threaded VP9-cpu-1, which is then comparable to multithreaded x264 placebo on this system.

    All in all, I'm quite impressed by initial results.

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    Ignoring the reference pdf's speed-focused switches will bring x265 almost right on top of anchor HM11 quality. On dual core, speed is now ~halfway between VP9-cpu-0 and cpu-1. Oh, and these were built with latest 8/2/13 commits.
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    Wow! 1280x720 at 1.16fps on a Q6600 XP machine is really slow. Good thing it's a small file so it shouldn't take too long. The command __gops 4 was not a valid command so I had to leave it off but it seems to be encoding alright. We'll see.

    Using vhelp's command: x265.exe --q 20 --width 1280 --height 720 --rate 29.970 --frame-skip 0 --frames ALL --input "C:\Tools\x265-2013-08-03[3db96ea]\Untitled-2b.avi" --rect --max-merge 1 --hash 1 --wpp --no-rdo --tu-intra-depth 1 --tu-inter-depth 2 --no-tskip --output "C:\Tools\x265-2013-08-03[3db96ea]\Untitled-2b.h265"
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    MORE info

    So far at least, these are the FourCCs accepted by the Lentoid H265 DirectShow Decoder:


    hevc HEVC

    hm10 HM10

    hvc1 HVC1
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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Tools\x265-2013-08-03[3db96ea]>x265.exe --q 20 --width 1280 --height 720 --ra
    te 29.970 --frame-skip 0 --frames ALL --input "C:\Tools\x265-2013-08-03[3db96ea]
    \Untitled-2b.avi" --rect --max-merge 1 --hash 1 --wpp --no-rdo --tu-intra-depth
    1 --tu-inter-depth 2 --no-tskip --output "C:\Tools\x265-2013-08-03[3db96ea]\Unti
    tled-2b.h265"
    yuv [info]: 1280x720 29Hz, frames 0 - 1317 of 1318
    x265 [info]: detected SIMD architectures SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3
    x265 [info]: performance primitives: intrinsic assembly
    x265 [info]: Main profile, Level-3.1 (Main tier)
    x265 [info]: thread pool with 4 threads, WPP enabled
    x265 [info]: CU size : 64
    x265 [info]: Max RQT depth inter / intra : 2 / 1
    x265 [info]: ME method / range / maxmerge : star / 64 / 1
    x265 [info]: Keyframe Interval : 32
    x265 [info]: WaveFrontSubstreams : 12
    x265 [info]: QP : 20
    x265 [info]: enabled coding tools: rect amp no-rdo rdoq sao sao-lcu sign-hide
    x265 [info]: frame I:42 kb/s: 5310.86 PSNR Mean: Y:53.640 U:55.469 V:56.305

    x265 [info]: frame P:1276 kb/s: 912.29 PSNR Mean: Y:53.157 U:52.511 V:53.625

    x265 [info]: global: kb/s: 1052.46 PSNR Mean: Y:53.173 U:52.605 V:53.710


    visual studio error: An unhandled win32 exception occurred in x265.exe [5060]

    It looks like a file was encoded though, 5.78 MB. I'll have to mux it and see if it plays.
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    Originally Posted by El Heggunte View Post
    MORE info

    So far at least, these are the FourCCs accepted by the Lentoid H265 DirectShow Decoder:


    hevc HEVC

    hm10 HM10

    hvc1 HVC1
    So we can use these as the file extension instead of .265? I thought I saw a command line somewhere with .hvc1
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    ^ Yes. But more importantly, they are the FourCCs that an AVI (or a VfW-compatible MKV) file must have, in order to allow the media splitter to connect to the H265 decoder.
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    just use .265 like .264 does. these are to denote the format anyway. and once the proper container(s) have been finalized, it will be a matter of when the encoder(s) sport their prefered container, i.e., .ts m2ts .mkv and so on. no doubt, mkv will probably be chosen.

    in my initial encoder trails i was using .h265 as the extension since the video was raw from some of the encoders only option. it aided me to realize the videos i was encoding were raw (containerless) videos.

    but if you can wrap in a new container, i.e., mkv, then obviosly you use those extention names.
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    Either there is something wrong with my .265 file or Graph Studio (and my system) can't handle it. I'll try a smaller resolution but my test file doesn't look very good at 640x480. I'll try 960x528 and see how it goes.
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    Originally Posted by DarrellS View Post
    Either there is something wrong with my .265 file or Graph Studio (and my system) can't handle it.
    visual studio error: An unhandled win32 exception occurred in x265.exe [5060]
    Well, Visual Studio should have nothing to do with a GCC-compiled x265.exe

    Just a VERY-wild guess (because I don't have Visual Studio) --- there is at least one service related to Visual Studio running in the background, and you should stop or disable it/them.
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    I tried turning the debugger off last night but it still kept popping up. Do I need to turn off error reporting service also?

    I created a smaller resolution file but it's not working in graph studio either. A corrupt frame starts up and instead of playing normally, frame by frame, it just scrolls to the right for four or five frames and locks up the player. The progress bar still moves to the end but the video doesn't play and I have to manually stop Graph Studio because it stopped responding.

    How do I get this .265, hvc1 or whatever file into an mp4 container? Mymp4box doesn't recognize the file type.
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    Originally Posted by DarrellS View Post
    How do I get this .265, hvc1 or whatever file into an mp4 container? Mymp4box doesn't recognize the file type.
    You'll need a build of MP4Box from one of the GPAC "nightlies":

    http://gpac.wp.mines-telecom.fr/downloads/gpac-nightly-builds/#Windows 32 bits

    BUT if you already have this, then just drop the GUI(s) and use the command prompt.

    P.S.: And if your copy of x265 is creating invalid streams, well......
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    Originally Posted by DarrellS View Post
    I tried turning the debugger off last night but it still kept popping up. Do I need to turn off error reporting service also?

    I created a smaller resolution file but it's not working in graph studio either. A corrupt frame starts up and instead of playing normally, frame by frame, it just scrolls to the right for four or five frames and locks up the player. The progress bar still moves to the end but the video doesn't play and I have to manually stop Graph Studio because it stopped responding.

    How do I get this .265, hvc1 or whatever file into an mp4 container? Mymp4box doesn't recognize the file type.


    --no-tskip --no-tskip-fast

    http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=2924315845&uk=3055759650#dir/path=%2Fx265

    下载=download
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    Go a little faster on my machine, up-to-date whith commit 48c6641 PDF manual included
    Mediafire x265 version 0.3+161-48c6641e19de

    Happy Testing
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    No existe Gop en la nueva version de X265 - -. El archivo HEVC encodeado por la nueva version de X265 no es capaz de ser decodeado por el decodeador de Strongene y ya he reportado este problema a Strongene
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    Thanks again, Trepack

    And this one is for Selur "et al"

    I wrote to Steve Borho:

    Now, to the main subject...

    The thing says:
    «
    2. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    Hardware: AVX capable CPU recommended
    At least 8GB of RAM
    Software: Win7/8 x86_64
    Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Update 3
    »
    Minor fact: OK, this is actually a PBKAC, but some people have
    interpreted "recommended" as *mandatory* :-\
    and Steve said:

    This document was written to be distributed with a very specific x265.exe that we were providing to potential consortium members.
    And yes a lot of people take it out of context.
    Besides,

    The documented system requirements were only for the one particular build of the alpha version.
    and

    (Changed software status from "alpha" to "pre-alpha" as detailed in the referenced ExtremeTech article.)
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    Originally Posted by tnti View Post
    No existe Gop en la nueva version de X265 - -. El archivo HEVC encodeado por la nueva version de X265 no es capaz de ser decodeado por el decodeador de Strongene y ya he reportado este problema a Strongene
    Por que en espanol? Hablamos ingles aqui.

    I'm not going to look up the diacriticals for Spanish for the above.
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    Originally Posted by jman98 View Post
    Originally Posted by tnti View Post
    No existe Gop en la nueva version de X265 - -. El archivo HEVC encodeado por la nueva version de X265 no es capaz de ser decodeado por el decodeador de Strongene y ya he reportado este problema a Strongene
    Por que en espanol? Hablamos ingles aqui.
    MAYBE it's because he thinks El Heggunte is a native speaker of Spanish
    The truth is, hell no, my Spanish sucks even more than my English ,
    I mean, I hear and I read very well, but I'm unable to speak and to write in Spanish fluently
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    Originally Posted by jman98 View Post
    Originally Posted by tnti View Post
    No existe Gop en la nueva version de X265 - -. El archivo HEVC encodeado por la nueva version de X265 no es capaz de ser decodeado por el decodeador de Strongene y ya he reportado este problema a Strongene
    Por que en espanol? Hablamos ingles aqui.

    I'm not going to look up the diacriticals for Spanish for the above.
    I am Spanish and I have to earn a living to understand English, do not think it's a problem for a single post.

    I hope not to bother him with my words, which to me is just easier to understand Spanish, but I understand that the forum is English ¿forgive him this once?

    @ El Heggunte

    Know how to solve the problem by closing with control + c to windows detects an error in the application as well as when the program ends encode?

    Is a program problem?
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    Originally Posted by Trepack View Post
    @ El Heggunte

    Know how to solve the problem by closing with control + c to windows detects an error in the application as well as when the program ends encode?

    Is a program problem?
    With the most recent commits, yes, it seems there is a problem in them.

    Originally Posted by tnti View Post
    There is no --gops switch in the new version of x265.

    The HEVC file generated by the new version of x265 cannot be decompressed by the Lentoid decoder and I have already reported this problem to Strongene.
    I've just run a test encode with the latest "stable" build of x265 (commit 48c6641), and the HEVC file it produced is decoded fine by hevcdecfltr.dll 2.0.1.11
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    Yet another "and-oh-BTW" ,

    Donald Graft is in his "pre-menstrual princess blues" days again

    { http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1639339#post1639339 }

    Originally Posted by neuron2
    Isn't x265 GPL? If so you have to supply the source code as well, per GPL. Failure to comply will result in your posts being deleted. Also, no foreign languages in your signature. Thank you.
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    JEEB me ofrecio una forma de configurar cmake, el cual hace posible que mingw pueda encodear x265 de 64bits

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    https://bitbucket.org/multicoreware/x265/wiki/CrossCompile

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    I don't speak Spanish or Chinese. Your post do absolutely nothing for me.
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    Hard to produce a working file when every encoder uses a different command line. Every file I try to create ends with a crash in the encoder and the out put, although it kind of plays (corrupt frames) crashes every player.

    Working sample commands would be nice for each encoder so we can tell if it's our command line or our system that refuses to create a working file.

    I just formatted a spare drive and will install a back up image of my operating system when I knew everything was working fine. I've installed and uninstalled so much crap the last couple of months trying to get 265 and VP9 to work that I don't know how much damage I've done to the operating system.

    Maybe XP with 4GB of memory and a Q6600 cpu is just not good enough to create a working file.
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    @ tnti:

    Thanks for your GCC 4.8.1 builds, including the 64-bit and 16bpp versions

    BUT, when I try to run one of 32-bit MSVS builds under Windows XP Pro, ......

    Code:
    blah-blah- blah, x265_32BIT-8bpp.exe is not a valid Win32 application.
    Very-good indeed.

    P.S.:

    [GCC 4.8.1]

    Code:
    2013-07-31  22:27    <DIR>          .
    2013-07-31  22:27    <DIR>          ..
    2013-07-31  22:06         3,084,417 x265_32BIT-16bpp.exe
    2013-07-31  22:00         4,660,633 x265_32BIT-8bpp.exe
    2013-07-31  22:25         3,883,557 x265_64BIT-16bpp.exe
    2013-07-31  22:16         5,765,800 x265_64BIT-8bpp.exe
                   4 File(s)     17,394,407 bytes
                   2 Dir(s)  33,731,781,632 bytes free
    [VS 2012]

    Code:
    2013-07-31  23:03    <DIR>          .
    2013-07-31  23:03    <DIR>          ..
    2013-07-31  22:46         1,592,320 x265_32BIT-16bpp.exe
    2013-07-31  22:38         2,588,160 x265_32BIT-8bpp.exe
    2013-07-31  23:03         1,676,288 x265_64BIT-16bpp.exe
    2013-07-31  22:56         2,702,848 x265_64BIT-8bpp.exe
                   4 File(s)      8,559,616 bytes
                   2 Dir(s)  33,731,781,632 bytes free
    0_o
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    Originally Posted by DarrellS View Post
    ............

    Maybe XP with 4GB of memory and a Q6600 cpu is just not good enough to create a working file.
    My oldest computer is a Pentium-4 with 1GB of RAM running XP Pro w/ SP3,
    but yes, it's able to create valid HEVC streams
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