[HEVC] x265.EXE: mingw builds

[vhelp]

still not successfull. anyway. i investigated the { v2.0.1.17 } Lentoid Strongen decoder. it seems that the reason i'm having problems playing current clips encoded through x265.exe is because somewhere in one of the builds the encoder changed their encoding stamp, for lack of better term. if i play an older x265.exe encoded clip from back in 9/24 the clips play in graphstudio and my sw (dshow) player. but if i play a current x265.exe encoded clip, i.e., { v0.5+371 } then they don't play at all in graphstudio or my custom sw (dshow) player, i just get a black activemovie screen. i verifed this when i loaded an older version x265.exe { v 0.4+19-4b794e2ffcb4 no stdin/pipe support} and it played fine in graphstudio and my custom sw (dshow) player.

if i'm not mistaken, current x265.exe builds are now hm12 format. maybe that is the reason they don't play in the lentoid strongen decoder via graphstudio.

but according to Strongen's webiste..

Strongene PC HEVC/H.265 Decoder
Version:
V2.0.1.17 Release Date: 2013/11/6 Size: 566KB
Release Notes:
1. This version is only for the individual test of HEVC decoding speed; 2. Compatible with the reference software HM12.0;3. Compatible with LAVSpliter; 4. The flv demux is involved, supporting .flv HEVC container splitting for decoding; 5. The mp4 demux is involved, supporting .mp4 HEVC container splitting for decoding, and compatible with GPAC
Configuration:
Supporting system of WinServer 2003/2008, Win XP/Vista and Win7/Win8

they do support hm12.0.3

[tnti]

HM12 not work properly decode


This is the BUG X265

HM crash

I have repeatedly complained about the WPP problems X265

[Selur]

@vhelp: depending on the settings, x265 will output broken bit streams. Like tnti mentioned, with wpp enabled, streams are broken.

[vhelp]

assuming this is a wpp issue -- i thought i read resently that wpp is on by default. my understanding is, that anything *not* in the commandline parameter string is "ON" or "OFF" according that parameters default.

thus, wpp is "ON" by default if not in the param string. i guess we have to specifically turn it "OFF" then, every time we encode. hopefully, i am correct and just need to turn wpp off.

[tnti]

In order to ensure compatibility
I now are closed WPP


After the closure can be compatible with HM 10 11 12

[vhelp]

actually, i would say that the Strongene Lentoid deocder is broken, not x265.exe because lentoid plays the x265 { v0.4+19 } build, and so does mpc-be, but lentoid does not play the { v0.5+371 } but mpc-be does play it perfectly.

[Selur]

@tnti: closed WPP? do you mean, you disabled wpp?
Also: Did you report the problem properly to the developers?

@Looking at the current source:

void x265_param_default(x265_param *param)
{
memset(param, 0, sizeof(x265_param));

/* Applying non-zero default values to all elements in the param structure */
param->logLevel = X265_LOG_INFO;
param->bEnableWavefront = 1;
param->frameNumThreads = 0;
param->poolNumThreads = 0;
param->csvfn = NULL;
....
}

wpp is enabled by default (and the lav based decoders can decode it).

So either the HM decoder is buggy or x265 doesn't produce standard conform output when wpp is turned on.

Cu Selur

[tnti]

X265 only shows the resulting file does not meet the criteria

Strongene Lentoid deocder only decode standard stream

I did not tell the developer ...

[vhelp]

confirmed, strongene lentoid decoder is borked. it won't play whether WPP is turned on or off.

i made two encodes, neither will play while using strongene lentoid decoder { v2.0.1.17 }
but mpc-be plays both videos perfectly.

video.[0.5+371, q15, --wpp=on].hm10
video.[0.5+371, q15, --no-wpp=off].hm10

[Selur]

I did not tell the developer ...

then stop complaining and report it to the developers

[tnti]

OK I will report

[El Heggunte]

confirmed, strongene lentoid decoder is borked. it won't play whether WPP is turned on or off.

i made two encodes, neither will play while using strongene lentoid decoder { v2.0.1.17 }
but mpc-be plays both videos perfectly.

video.[0.5+371, q15, --wpp=on].hm10
video.[0.5+371, q15, --no-wpp=off].hm10

I cannot confirm the alleged problem. The latest Lentoid decoder does work fine here, with the most recent build from x265.cc

[vhelp]

then i will test your theory out on my rinkydink netbook computer. it is a clean windows xp home, 800x600 pixels, 500mb ram. i'm not sure i can log on to this forum multiple times in order to respond on that computer. it is way over in the dinning room.

[El Heggunte]

FWIW, yet another image:

[x265.cc]

confirmed, strongene lentoid decoder is borked. it won't play whether WPP is turned on or off.

i made two encodes, neither will play while using strongene lentoid decoder { v2.0.1.17 }
but mpc-be plays both videos perfectly.

video.[0.5+371, q15, --wpp=on].hm10
video.[0.5+371, q15, --no-wpp=off].hm10

I cannot confirm the alleged problem. The latest Lentoid decoder does work fine here, with the most recent build from x265.cc

Signed.

"MPC-HC.1.7.0.208.x86" + "Strongene PC HEVC/H.265 Decoder V2.0.1.17" + "madVR" = WORKS

tested with the "tos_60s_hevc.crf24.mp4" sample from "LigH.de" (great sample btw.)

[vhelp]

i just finished testing on my netbook.

1st test.. had older strongene lentoid decoder, i should have checked which one. but doesn't matter.
all videos play in anything, graphstudio, etc. including your basicinstinct clip.
NOTE: for the basicinstinct video, i forgot to mention, it would not play w/ ext .hevc, i had to change it to .hm10 and then it would play in the older  strongene lentoid decoder, etc.
except for any videos recently created with x265.exe { v0.5+371 } note: not that it is that versions fault, there older ver's from that group w/ same problem.

2nd test.. i removed the two strongene decoder files via unreg.bat
none of the videos will play. i get an error.

3rd test.. i installed the latest { v2.0.1.17 } strongene lentoid decoder files (there are four files in the reg.bat file)
all videos play in anything, graphstudio, etc. including your basicinstinct clip.
except for any videos recently created with x265.exe { v0.5+371 } note:  not that it is that versions fault, there older ver's from that group w/  same problem.

4th test.. i removed the latest { v2.0.1.17 } strongene lentoid decoder files (there are four files in the reg.bat file)
none of the videos will play. i get an error.

EDIT: see 1st test notes

[tnti]

HEVC encoder version 0.5 +397-1544 cf94837d version found no problems **

[El Heggunte]

on my rinkydink netbook computer. it is a clean windows xp home

Please define "clean Windows XP Home Edition" Does that setup include Service Pack 3

Just keep in mind that many/¿most? of the software that still targets Windows XP expects to deal with the most recent APIs.
Besides, some errors in the Registry may have no other consequence than screwing the functionality of certain DirectShow filters

[El Heggunte]

P.S.: However, since MPC-BE and/or LAV Video works for you,
why do you need or want a functional Lentoid decoder???

[vhelp]

not sure how to get lavfilters v0.59.1 to work inside an avs script.
thats what this mess was originally all about, so i can scrub through the encoded hm10 videos inside virtualdub.

my desktop pc has xp home sp2. and i won't put sp3 on it. it cause me more problems in the past and the reason i removed it.

[x265.cc]

why do you need or want a functional Lentoid decoder???

On my Intel Q9000 (4x 2.0 GHz), MPC-HC with LAV (1.7.0.216 x86) generates ~82% and Lentoid Decoder ~40% CPU usage,
at LigH's 1080p sample. That could be a reason (for me).

[vhelp]

Please define "clean Windows XP Home Edition" Does that setup include Service Pack 3

clean, as in, none of my desktop pc's xp home issues. it just has xp home and a couple of apps. codecs i will install only if i need it for something, like the hevc. it had the older version. but i just removed them in the test above, in post # 976. now it has the v2.0.1.17 on it. but, you can't blame it on it being screwy, registry screwy, etc.

[El Heggunte]

not sure how to get lavfilters v0.59.1 to work inside an avs script.
thats what this mess was originally all about, so i can scrub through the encoded hm10 videos inside virtualdub.

As I said some pages ago ,

set "LAV Splitter Source merit" > "Lentoid HEVC Source merit"

set "LAV Video merit" > "Lentoid HEVC Decoder merit"

and then you can be sure DirectShowSource() will be using LAV Filters

[vhelp]

initial query from post # 958 is now SOLVED!

i figured it out on my own. but i see you mention how, now, arggg! now i can scrub through these videos.

edit 1: not sure how to use lavfilters, but here is how i am doing it with ffms2: avs -> virtualdub

v = "g:\zzzbinst.hevc"
LoadCPlugin( "C:\PLUGINS\ffms2.dll" ) # 10,237KB  10/28/2013  3:28AM
FFVideoSource( v, fpsnum=24000, fpsden=1001)

edit 2: i see that scrubbing backwards tends to stall it a bit. and then it gets really snow continuing to go backwards. so its a little buggy but works

[El Heggunte]

FFVideoSource() should work "best" on an actual container (read: MP4)

You can use Graphstudio for changing the merits of the filters. But normally you wouldn't have to change a thing, since LAV Filters set themselves to a merit higher than "PREFERRED". In case of doubt --- set the merit of the Lentoid filters to DO_NOT_USE, logoff, logon again.

[El Heggunte]

..........

v = "g:\zzzbinst.hevc"
LoadCPlugin( "C:\PLUGINS\ffms2.dll" ) # 10,237KB  10/28/2013  3:28AM
FFVideoSource( v, fpsnum=24000, fpsden=1001)

fpsnum=30000, fpsden=1000

Reason: I intended to include that segment in a video game clip, so I had to change the frame rate.
But now that my YouTube channel is dead,...

[LigH.de]

FFMS2 works best with the MKV container. Any other container may require support by an installed Haali Media Splitter. Especially TS is not well supported.

LSMASHSource.dll provides different functions, depending on the container. For MP4, use LSMASHVideoSource() if you prefer L-SMASH as MP4 demultiplexer; if you prefer libavformats as MP4 demultiplexer, and for other containers, use LwLibavVideoSource().

[vhelp]

24000/1001=23.976
30000/1000=30
30000/1001=29.970... ... ...

youtube.....welcome to the club. ever since i switched from dialup to DSL, and the company no longer exist, and i long forgot my password, my yt page is a ghost town.

thank you for the additional info, LigH.

and also, thank you x265.cc, for your relentless though consistant updates!

[El Heggunte]

Shame on me, I still haven't tried LSMASHSource.dll

According to the HTML page, FFMS2 needs Haali only for OGM ( which nobody uses ) and transport streams.

[vhelp]

well, as you already know, it works for me in my h264 videos from the hauppauge hdvpr, it works perfectly and i hghly recommend it for these sources.

however, as you also know, for hevc videos, it doesn't work. for me. so, please, when you get it to work, share...thank you in advance!

see post # 959, there is hints how to make it work but i don't get it.

edit 1: my l-smash specs:

LSMASHSource.dll  8,230KB  8/30/2013  11:45AM

edit 2: this is the only resource i could find on the origin of the .dll file for l-smash.

L-SMASH-Works_r688v2.7z
vaporsynth
legal_stuff
aviutil
avisynth -> readme
avisynth -> LSMASHSource.dll
avisynth -> msvcr110.dll