Yes, the Elgato and Hauppauge HD PVR 2 allow you to capture at lower frame sizes (you can't caputure 1080p60 as 720p60, only 720p30). But they both require a computer to record.
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That looks promising. Can you get to that screen without a PC hooked up? If yes how do you make your selections?
Avermedia lists these resolutions and frame-rates for PC Free. The screen above does't show frame-rate, how is that set?
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720 x 480 (30p), 720 x 480 (60p), 720 x 576 (30p), 720 x 576 (60p), 1280 x 720 (30p), 1280 x 720 (60p), 1920 x 1080 (30p) -
With the Hauppauge Rocket you can enable it to do on the fly down scaler all way to 480x270 from a source input as 1080p and video/audio bitrate even frame rate down 15fps, NOTE: only support CBR with this device.
Once you hook it up to PC and run the software and setup it up the way you want it, it automatic stick to those setting in PC free mode.Last edited by SHS; 10th Jan 2014 at 14:18.
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You have to plug the ALGP to a pc via USB then set the recording option eithe 720p or 1080p and Bitrate, not sure what happens to the frame rate, I guess it just records at the framerate outputted from the device you're recording?
Once the ALGP is set that's it you don't need to use a pc you just plug the USB Into a power source I.e. TV USB. There's loads of YouTube vids on the ALGP working in pc free mode.
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How long can my recordings be?
Recording length is only limited by the size of your USB thumb drive. For example, a 16Gb USB thumb drive can hold up to 4 hours of video.
*PLEASE NOTE*: When recording to a USB thumb drive, your recordings are formatted in 2Gb file "chunks".
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The similar Avermedia device it drops a few frames between segments. Can you check if Hauppauge does the same?
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I'm doing some testing and on very HQ slow motion footage I can see no real difference between 10 and 20 Mb/sec. What type of footage is the best to see the difference?
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then it doesn't matter as long as you don't see any difference. use that bitrate for those particular sources. but some sources you may notice difference, or, over time you will begin to notice on all sources. anyway. either way, if you're not sure, just post the two sources so others can take a look.
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Has anyone tested component into the C285 then HDMI-passive out? Do you see any quality degradation?
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Is this still the case nowadays with the Elgato?
When there is any 5.1 sound input when using the Elgato, the software won't work at all (v1.4) This is pretty useless when capturing TV
I'm looking to record 1080i 30fps satellite TV to 720p 60fps. The 60fps is needed to prevent a choppy framerate. I was disappointed to learn after buying the Elgato that it only records 720p in 30fps (it can only record in 60fps if the source was that). Do any models of the HD PVR record 1080i in 720p 60fps? And are there any artefacts caused by a poor downscaling?
Would prefer not to use the PVR as the reviews suggest it's buggy. Is there a similar device that can record 1080i 30fps in 720p 60fps? I'm looking to get the best picture possible without artefacts. -
Very good question, in fact, I am interested in this as well.
The pat answer is to use the company's dvr...problem with that is..What if I don't want theirs?
Seems to me all these capture devices have a serious flaw somewhere to keep it from being top dog.
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In the UK nearly everyone has Sky. The Sky box doesn't have a 60fps option. It just outputs in the same framerate as 1080i (25fps). While recording in 720p 25fps doesn't give as juddery a frame rate as recording in 1080i 25fps then converting to 720p 25fps, it's still noticeable. I didn't actually notice an issue until I played the 720p file on my media player. It's sad that people none the wiser will destroy their footage by using the Elgato to record 1080i footage in 720p.
Is there any capture device that will record 1080i in 720p at 50 or 60fps? Can the HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition Plus do it? I'm not sure about buying that as it seems to have issues. Amazon has grouped all the reviews for every HD PVR model into the reviews for every model! So it's difficult to see what the star rating is and reviews for the HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition Plus. -
You can always capture at 10180i and convert to 720p later. Of course, that's yet another lossy compression cycle. But if you capture at 30 Mb/s the losses aren't so bad.
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Can anyone suggest a self-contained device that can record to it's own hard drive or flash memory without needing a PC? I would like to record some on demand shows from a satellite box that's in another room (I can't move it into my room as my parents are using it).
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I know of 3 capture devices that record HDMI input to either a hard drive or USB flash drive, but you will have to operate them manually. You will also likely need a device to remove HDCP in order to use them with the HDMI output from a satellite receiver. Some inexpensive powered HDMI splitters can do this. The quality of the recordings may not be as as good as some of the PC-based capture devices mentioned in this thread.
Avermedia Live Gamer Portable
AVerMedia Game Capture HD II C285
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OK thanks. I can remove HDCP no problem. I'll have a look at those. I was also thinking that I could use a HDMI to Gigabit Ethernet cable and plug it into a homeplug in my parents room then in my room I could have another homeplug then connect the cable from that into my HDMI recorder in my room. From what I've read ordinary homeplugs can't do that but there are other devices that can. Does anybody know of anything that will work like that?
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Look for an HDMI extender using Cat5e or CAT6 cable. They require two CAT5e or CAT6 cables to connect the HDMI devices on both ends. The CAT5e or CAT6 cables can't be connected to a home network at the same time.
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Doesn't that use a physical cable? I need something where there will be no need to install a physical cable between the two rooms. Homeplugs are effectively wireless as they use electrical cabling in your walls to connect 2 devices.
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If Homeplugs use the home's electrical system instead of network cables, they aren't wireless.
In the USA it's called "powerline networking", so I didn't understand what you meant. You cannot use home wiring as an HDMI extender. The same number of wires as in an HDMI cable are needed to function as an extender. That is why two network cables are required.
[Edit]Wireless HDMI extenders need an unobstructed line-of-sight connection to function, and they have a limited range even then, so they aren't going to be helpful to you.
It looks like I'm out of date and something new was released that promises you can wirelessly extend HDMI to other rooms, but I'm not sure if it really works well enough to serve your purpose: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00630WKGI?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=as2&creative=374...29&camp=211189Last edited by usually_quiet; 17th Feb 2014 at 14:57.
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This device uses homeplug type things: http://www.justhdmi.co.uk/hdjuicebox/ but it's quite expensive. Was wondering if there are cheaper alternatives.
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