MPC opening 720p in 360p window

[darkdream787]

I'm not sure why but every time I open a 1280x720p video in windows media player classic, its automatically opens as and plays back as 640x360. When I open it in the original WMP that comes with windows it opens at the correct size or the size I allow it to open as.

If I take a screenshot with its save image feature the image is the proper size but when played back in the player it opens up as small. Its as if the video file is 1280p and its playing back as 1280p but its deciding to open in a window thats only 640x360.

I dont have this problem when opening a 848x480 video file.

(I have it at 100% zoom so its not that I put it on 50% zoom)


My best guess is because my resolution can only go up to 1280x1024 its trying to be smart and open it smaller than 1280x720 since 1280 is the max width of my screen resolution and it might as well be opening in fullscreen or something.

I want it to open as 1280x720 automatically instead of it be small when it opens. I don't wish to have to try and resize the window to get it to be larger or go fullscreen all the time to view it at its proper size.

Whats up with this and what setting do I need to play with if their is one to change how it opens?

[smrpix]

View/Options/Fullscreen/Launch files in fullscreen.

[darkdream787]

View/Options/Fullscreen/Launch files in fullscreen.

Thats an obvious one, but I dont wish to open it in fullscreen all the time or I would have done that to begin with and not have even asked.
I also just said above "I don't wish to have to try and resize the window to get it to be larger or go fullscreen all the time to view it at its proper size."

I want it open just as it does for any other video file and at its proper size in a window.

Any other suggestion?

[johns0]

Double click the video window to maximize it.

[smrpix]

In other words, you want it to play without a border on the left and right -- but not fullscreen? And you don't want to use WMP. And you want it to open that way automatically.

Doesn't seem worth the trouble. Good luck.

[Wolfen]

Who even uses mpc anymore ? there are better choices, uhm, Potplayer for one is probably the best free player around.

[darkdream787]

Double click the video window to maximize it.

That would be having to resize it after it opens. I said I don't want to have to resize it manually when it opens. It should just open up in a 1280x720 window that isn't in fullscreen mode when double clicked on, just like a 640x480 or 848x480 video file would.

[darkdream787]

In other words, you want it to play without a border on the left and right -- but not fullscreen? And you don't want to use WMP. And you want it to open that way automatically.

Doesn't seem worth the trouble. Good luck.

I dont think your understanding fully what it is I want then.

I dont care about the border. I want it to open in MPC like any other video file would in a window thats the same size as the video is supposed to be.

[darkdream787]

Who even uses mpc anymore ? there are better choices, uhm, Potplayer for one is probably the best free player around.

MPC is probly one of the most used players I know of.

To each his own, I hear about MPC VLC and WMP argued about which is better all the time. Its a pointless argument when everyone has their own preferences and chooses differently. People can also use the settings smartly to get better video than what you know of or like an amateur and get worse looking video that isnt as good as it can be.

I personally never even heard of Potplayer and Im a media lover so it cant be that popular. not saying its a bad player or doesnt measure up to the others but I am saying I never heard of it before so I wouldnt consider it amazing just yet.

[darkdream787]

Well I have no problem getting it to open how I want on my laptop whos desktop width can go to 1440 so Im just gonna assume it either cant be done on my computer that has 1280 as the max width or Im gonna have to find out how to do what it is Im asking.

I want it to open in a 1280x720p window, even if it has a border and slightly shrinks the video a tad to compensate for it. I was just wondering why it didnt do that is all.

I think Im just gonna let it go and say screw it since it works fine on my laptop.

[manono]

Maybe upgrade to MPC-HC. All my 1280x720 videos open as 1280x720. And it's the default setting. Didn't have to change anything and it's the only player I use. Maybe it's because my screen resolution is much higher, dunno.

[jagabo]

I want it to open in a 1280x720p window

Turn on AutoZoom and set it to 100 percent.

[smrpix]

I dont think your understanding fully what it is I want then.

I want it to open in MPC like any other video file would in a window thats the same size as the video is supposed to be.

I want it to open in a 1280x720p window, even if it has a border and slightly shrinks the video a tad to compensate for it.

You are correct, I don't understand fully what it is you want.

[hello_hello]

Are you using the Haali renderer? I have a vague recollection of it doing some odd things when it came to opening HD video. Well one odd thing...... it'd open HD video resized down as you described. Even if you're not using Haali, try switching renderers. However.....

As manono said, it's a good idea to use MPC-HC instead of MPC (assuming you're not) as MPC hasn't been developed in years. As is manono's experience, for me video always opens using it's real resolution (or the screen width if the video resolution is wider than that).

One other thought..... are you using ffdshow for decoding? If so, the resize filter wouldn't be enabled would it? Not that it's likely to be the cause anyway as it'd most likely effect playback with WMP the same way, but it can't hurt to ask....

If I'm getting it right myself, in order for others to understand what you want (maybe they use players which don't work the same way), when opening a video using MPC-HC it usually does so using the video's resolution as the display dimensions. If the video has the same or greater width/height as the monitor resolution, the player will basically open it using the monitor's width or height, minus whatever the player itself is using for window borders or navigation and menu bars etc. So 1280 pixel wide video should open using the entire width of a 1280 pixel wide monitor unless the height is so great resizing the video down by the appropriate amount reduces it's width to less than 1280 pixels.
There's no way I know of to get the player to open using a "720p window" as such, but I'm thinking that's not really want you want. I'd guess you just want the video width (or height) to use the entire screen width (or height) when it needs to, rather than it being resized down to standard definition.

I kind of recall MPC (not MPC-HC) opened video at it's real resolution all the time, which meant if the resolution of the monitor was lower than the video resolution you'd end up with a slab of video/player window hanging off the screen. Maybe there was a setting to stop it from doing so, or maybe it's renderer dependant, I can't remember. I'm pretty sure other players I've tried, such as VLC, open HD video with some of it extending off the screen in the same way (depending on resolution) but I've never looked for a setting to change that either as I hardly ever use it.

[darkdream787]

Yes Im using MPC-HC, I just still call it MPC is all.

Its because of the resolution for the computer being at 1280x1024, not the media player alone. They open just fine on the 3 other computers in the house with bigger resolutions.

Its only going to open the way I want on a computer with a resolution higher than 1280 width. I'm just going to have to resize it after opening or play it on another computer is all.

[hello_hello]

You could try using the options to remember the last window position and size, resize the player to whatever takes your fancy, restart it and with any luck.... well it'll mean standard definition video will be resized up when you open it but would that be a bother?

I'm still using a 4:3 CRT monitor and the resolution I'm using is 1152x864 (Windows XP). Pretty much all video with a width equal to or greater than 1152 opens with the player/video using the entire screen width. I'd not really thought about it until now (or even noticed), but the player does seem to add small black bars to the top and bottom of the video when the width is wider than the monitor. I'm not sure why it does that rather than adjust the height of the video window so it doesn't need them, but anyway......

For me opening a 1280x536 video still leaves a couple of inches of screen real-estate above and below the player window, but it fills the width of the screen. Opening a 1280x720 video also fills the screen width and leaves just enough unused screen realestate for the taskbar. The same happens when opening 1080p video. 1920x804 opens in the same way as 1280x576 and 1920x1080 opens just like 1280x720 etc.

I can't come up with a reason why it doesn't work the same way for you, unless I'm missing the obvious. I don't see why the player is resizing 1280 pixel wide video down to 640 when it could open it using the screen width minus a few pixels for the window border. The player's height would then be the resized video's height plus the player window/manu and navigation bars etc and you should still have screen height to spare.

1280x1024 is 1.25:1. Is that the aspect ratio of the monitor or is the aspect ratio something else?

Maybe try going into MPC-HC's options and using the reset button in Miscellaneous. You never know. As I have this PC connected to the TV I regularly run MPC-HC on the TV, get distracted and forget to move the curser focus, then I think I'm typing text while instead I'm sending MPC-HC all sorts of keyboard shortcuts and before I know it.....

[Chug a Bug]

I want it to open in a 1280x720p window

Turn on AutoZoom and set it to 100 percent.

This. Goto Options > Playback > tick Auto-zoom > 100%. Use MPC-BE for a prettier UI.

Also I get better results with LAV filters+LAV splitter rather than Haali splitter+FFdshow. Disable internal filters, prefer external.

[Hoser Rob]

I'd try a different player too, but not necessarily potplayer.

For me, a good guide is how many problems with a program get posted here. Potplayer and mpc have many such postings.

Vlc and smplayer have almost none. Those are the two I use.

If it's a program I've paid for (or the OS) I'll spend the time and effort dicking around with it to configure it or solve problems. With freeware I just tend to try something else.

The only problem with that approach with media software in windows is that it's a good way to get a bunch of crappy 3rd party codecs installed. And that's just a huge kettle of worms. Vlc and smplayer don't do that crap. Linux ports like them are generally good choices.

[hello_hello]

All media players use 3rd party codecs. That's how they manage to play such a wide variety of video/audio types. None of the players mentioned in this thread install "system codecs" though.... to the best of my knowledge.... no matter how much "clicking around" you might do trying to get them to work.

[DarrellS]

I'm having the same problem since switching to mpc-be. I've tried everything but the player always opens in a real small window. No matter what I set it to, when I open a new 1080p video, it opens in a small window. If I wanted to watch small videos then I'd encode everything to 320x240 which is about the size of the window when I open a new file. This is fricken ridiculous. Back to mpc-hc I guess.

[hello_hello]

The only time I've experienced a "player opens using a small window" problem was when using MPC-HC with the Haali renderer. I kind of remember it does some automatic resizing of HD video for reasons I don't understand.

I don't use MPC-BE myself or have any idea which renderer it uses by default, but I'd suggest maybe trying a different renderer to see if that's the cause.

[DarrellS]

I fixed my problem. I got rid of that Russian piece of crap and reinstalled MPC-HC. Pretty hard to get help for their player when the forum isn't in English.

[hello_hello]

I just gave MPC-BE a quick spin and couldn't find a way to get it to behave as MPC-HC does either.