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    Which is over all a better for DVD+R DL I know cheaper is not always better Windata or Philips

    Windata 100 pack $35

    http://microcenter.com/product/354262/DVDR_DL_8x_85GB_240_Minute_Disc_100_Pack

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    Philips 25 pack $25

    http://microcenter.com/product/260003/DVDR_DL_8x_85GB-240_Minute_Disc_25-Pack_Spindle

    I am asking about quality I know 100 pack is a much better buy
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    Did you just join ?!?!?
    LOL!!

    Answer A, B or 3 ?

    3: NEITHER!!!!

    If you did a search you would see it a 1000 times if you saw it once.....

    VERBATIM VERBATIM VERBATIM!!

    Unless it is something you don't care about, easily replaceable or you just like wasting time and $$$
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    I like Verbatim but they are a little pricey. I have burned like 750 Philis dvd+R not had 20 coasters Philips are just fine but DLs are pricy
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    Sigh. Repeating for the millionth time...

    The ONLY reliable DVD+R DL meda is Verbatim. That's it. ONLY freakin' means ONLY.

    EVERYTHING else in DVD+R DL is crap. Crap is crap. Buy whatever is cheaper. Cheap crap is still crap. Don't come back crying about your bad burns.

    Geez, I really wish I could get paid every time somebody posted "But I have burned X brand a bunch of times and never had a problem" where X is not Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden (TY doesn't make DVD+R DL media, which is why Verbatim is the ONLY good brand).
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    @ jman98...
    LOL!!

    I guess I was not clear/specific enough.....

    LOL!!!
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  6. You're comparing single-layer discs to double-layer...

    Personally, I've used cheap single-layer discs for "tossers", that is, when the reliability is not important. Like for DVD main movie backups without any extra junk, when you can just do them over if necessary. CMC_MAG and RiData come to mind.

    Double-layer is quite different. Use anything but Verbatim and your failure rate will be high. Unacceptably high, to me, anyway. I recall getting over 25% duds out of some Titan DLs (CMC), that I tried for BD9 Blu-Ray movie backups. That was too much even for tossers, and I got a Blu-Ray burner after that.
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  7. According to the list here, Windata discs are either fakes (they pretend to use different dye than they actually do) or they use a crap dye anyway.

    Philips probably use CMC dye, which isn't the best (although not the worst either). Verbatim use it on their "Life Series" discs instead of their own Mitsubishi dye. Apparently Philips do/did use Verbatim/Mitsubishi dye on some of their discs at some stage, but I don't know if they still do or which discs.

    Anyway, once you've bought some discs, the page I linked to should help you work out which dye is used and if the discs are likely to be any good. I'm pretty sure ImgBurn will tell you the media ID.

    Unless you're burning DVDs to play in a DVD player rather than just using the discs as storage for backing up etc, it might be time to consider a Bluray burner. Other than that, I agree.... Verbatim. Cheaper discs can end up being more expensive than buying better quality discs in the first place if you're throwing lots of them away due to failed or low quality burns etc.
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    Blank Blurays are a ripoff sorry 25 for $20 to $25 to 50 for $35 to $60. I saw a 100gb Bluray disc today it was $70 screw that
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  9. Single-layer BDRs are actually rather efficient. As low as 4 cents per GB. That compares favorably to DVDRs, IMO. But it seems your mind is made up.
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    Actually there is one alternative to the Verbatim DL +R discs that is worth considering. This would be the Falcon DL discs made using the 2P process, just as the Verbatim discs are made. The Falcon discs are just harder to find.

    Here is a link to them: http://www.duplication.ca/shop/Falcon-Premium-2P-DVD-R-DL-8.5GB-8X-White-Thermal-Hub-P...-Teac-P55.html

    I personally have stopped using any type of double layer discs, and only use TY or Verbatim single layer dvds, or Falcon or Verbatim single layer blu ray.
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    Originally Posted by DJboutit View Post
    Blank Blurays are a ripoff sorry 25 for $20 to $25 to 50 for $35 to $60. I saw a 100gb Bluray disc today it was $70 screw that
    Few people currently need to buy BD-R DL or higher capacities. While BD burners are still considerably more expensive than DVD burners, I have to disagree that single-layer BD-R discs are a rip-off. BD-Rs have more than twice the capacity of DVD+R DLs for close to the same cost per disc, comparing the price of Verbatim DVD+R DL media to non-LTH Verbatim BD-R media. BD-Rs also provide a way to store larger files in one piece. I was very pleased when BD-R burners dropped to $80 or less and I was finally able to switch.
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