Errors Removing Pulldown Flags .264 AVC 1080p 29,970 to 23,976 [SOLVED]

[Logitex]

Hi Everybody

I got Big Problems getting my .264 AVC 1080p 29,970 fps (Progressive) File from HD-DVD (with Pulldown flags) to 23,976 fps with removing the Pulldown

> Mediainfo Shows 1080p 29,970 fps Progressive
> VLC Shows 59,940 fps (??)

I've Tried tsMuxer so far by changing the FPS to 23,976 and Remove Pulldown Option but this occurs in the following Errors:

Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 100ms.
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 200ms.
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 400ms.

and so on ....

^^The whole Movie all the Time. After finishing the result is smooth Playback of Video but Audio gets async right from the Beginning and it doesn't matter if i correct the Audio delay the Movie will get async at a later time anyway > so no real Solution by just correcting the Audio Delay

Please Help me, Thanks in advance.

[jman98]

I have no solution for your error, but VLC is known to report the wrong frame rate sometimes. Apparently it sometimes confuses fields and frames the frame rate it reports is actually twice what it should be because it is really reporting fields per second.

[Logitex]

Ok, no Problem jman98 I've tried h264info (Alpha 20) to remove Pulldown but all i get is a Kind of slow,blurry Video with some flickering Pixels in it.

I'm thankful for every for any solution to fix this Problem.

[manono]

If it's really progressive 29.97fps then there are no pulldown flags. Please post a sample. 5 seconds with steady movement will be plenty.

[Logitex]

Hi manono

Here is a short Sample Clip:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8vomyc
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gu705d

(Sample splitted in 2 .rar Parts > just extract with WinRar)


If i just Change the Video FPS from 29,970 to 23,976 without Pulldown i get jerky Playback too

I have another HD-DVD (Black Christmas) where i just removed the Pulldown and set FPS to 23,976 that worked like a charm but on this one not

[jman98]

Niether HD-DVD nor BluRay supports 1080p 29.97 fps. I suspect your source is actually interlaced.

[jagabo]

I haven't seen this before but the video appears to be stored as 23.976 fps progressive with flags telling the player to play it at 29.97 fps. TsMuxer with the frame rate changed to 23.976 and remove pulldown worked with the sample clip. Maybe it was to short to show the errors you were getting? AviSynth can open it properly with:

DirectShowSource("nocandys.m2ts", convertfps=true, fps=23.976)

MMG was able to remux it into an MKV that played properly.

[Logitex]

Hi Everyone!! >Thanks for your Reply's

Yes, the sample Clip is to short to Show These Errors But they are definitely there...

Video Plays smooth when i activate the Remove Pulldown Option in tsMuxer > But then the Audio gets async

What can I do

[jagabo]

They source may have a variable frame rate. The DirectShowSource() options in AviSynth will probably fix it. But it will require reencoding.

And try remuxing to MKV with MMG. See if that works.

[Logitex]

^^Do you mean extract the h264 stream from EVO with tsMuxer (with (?) or without (?) Removing Pulldown) and Remux it with mkvmerge writing 23,976 fps to the Video stream?

I tried something similar yesterday: I remuxed the pure .h264 29,970 fps Video stream with eac3to (which removes Pulldown automatically) to mkv but the Result was the same like with tsMuxer > Audio async

[El Heggunte]

Have you tested the remuxes in OTHER players than VLC

[Logitex]

Yes with Windows Media Player But all I want is to get it to 23,976 fps for my TV with Audio sync like Normal BluRay's they are in 23,976 fps too

I've that removing Pulldown with h264info should solve the Problems better than tsMuxer but it's very strange Version 24 to the latest v26 crashes immediately Versions 20 to 23 are working and from that what i see after removing Pulldown with h264info Video Plays very smooth and it Shows up no Errors but the Picture i get is very very Faulty this is how it Looks like:






Maybe someone could try h264info with the sample and tell if it Looks the same way or different > would be very Grateful

[El Heggunte]

Try the following:

1) demux the EVO through eac3to BUT use the switch -keepPulldown

2) remux with MMG and set the FPS field to 24000/1001

3) tell us what happens

[Logitex]

Try the following:

1) demux the EVO through eac3to BUT use the switch -keepPulldown

2) remux with MMG and set the FPS field to 24000/1001

3) tell us what happens

^^I Tried that demux with eac3to doesn't work getting an Error:

eac3to v3.24
command line: "D:\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "E:\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_1.evo" "D:\HDDVD\movie.h264" -demux -keepPulldown
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 7 subtitle tracks, 0:43:05
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
2: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
3: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
4: E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
5: E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB, -84ms
"Commentary"
6: Subtitle (DVD), English
7: Subtitle (DVD), English, "SDH"
8: Subtitle (DVD), French
9: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish
10: Subtitle (DVD), Portuguese
11: Subtitle (DVD), French, "Forced Frecnh"
12: Subtitle (DVD), Spanish, "Forced"
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[a02] Extracting audio track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a02] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a03] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a03] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a05] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a02] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a03] A remaining delay of -4ms could not be fixed.
[a05] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a02] A remaining delay of +1ms could not be fixed.
[a04] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a05] A remaining delay of +12ms could not be fixed.
[a04] A remaining delay of -4ms could not be fixed.
[v01] Creating file "FEATURE_1 - 1 - h264, 1080p24.h264"...
[v01] Creating file "D:\HDDVD\movie.h264"...
[a02] Creating file "FEATURE_1 - 2 - E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48kHz.eac3"...
[a03] Creating file "FEATURE_1 - 3 - E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz.eac3"...
[a04] Creating file "FEATURE_1 - 4 - E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48kHz.eac3"...
[a05] Creating file "FEATURE_1 - 5 - E-AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48kHz, 'Commentary'.eac3"...
[s09] Extracting subtitle track number 9...
[s10] Extracting subtitle track number 10...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
[s07] Extracting subtitle track number 7...
[s08] Extracting subtitle track number 8...
[s11] Extracting subtitle track number 11...
[s12] Extracting subtitle track number 12...
[v01] Writing the destination file failed. <ERROR>
Aborted at file position 921698304. <ERROR>

[Logitex]

also checked the EVO-File with eac3to Command -check

Here is what i get:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/27vld9

[El Heggunte]

>> Logitex wrote:

eac3to v3.24

Last eac3to is v3.27 -- please upgrade A.S.A.P.

Also, you can upload sample files and logs to forum.videohelp itself

[Brad]

Make sure you have enough space on D: for all of the files that eac3to creates.

[Logitex]

Hi Guys! Good News

I Downloaded eac3to 3.27 and tried demuxing again but it was resulting in the Same Error (dont't know why got Plenty of Space Free on D:\ (about 20 gb) but figured that out: I Forced eac3to to demux the EVO-File and Output on D:\ , eac3to did that but its only a copy of demuxed h264 File eac3to seems to demux the Files First to C:\My Documents\ anyway > where wasn't enough Space for demuxing (2 gb) and on my First try i didn't noticed that the Files are going on C:\First..my Fault


After demuxing with -keepPulldown i get an h264 File with 23,976 FPS from eac3to which Plays smooth on PC and TV with especially Sync Audio now > Great !!!!

Now i just have do to the same with the second EVO-File (movie is Splitted is 2 Parts on the Disc)


Thank You very much to all of You Guys for Helping me to get this Fixed very Happy and satisfied now

[Brad]

I think you should be able to open it in eac3to as a disc structure instead of separate EVO files, select the relevant title, and it will combine them for you.

[Logitex]

Is there a difference?

i did it like this:

command line: "D:\eac3to327\eac3to.exe" "E:\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_1.EVO"+"E:\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_2 .EVO"+" -demux -keepPulldown

[Brad]

No idea, but that looks okay to me. It sounded like you were going to demux to two separate .h264 files and try to combine them with something else.

[El Heggunte]

Anyway, you'd better edit the title of this topic...

Replacing the expression "> PLZ Help :–(" with the tag [SOLVED] would be nice

[Logitex]

No idea, but that looks okay to me. It sounded like you were going to demux to two separate .h264 files and try to combine them with something else.

^^no no eac3to demuxed both Parts to one single h264 File > Everything Fine

@ El Heggunte: Done


Thanks Again.

[ConverterCrazy]

Try the following:

1) demux the EVO through eac3to BUT use the switch -keepPulldown

2) remux with MMG and set the FPS field to 24000/1001

3) tell us what happens

Thanks for the tip. Panning flicker greatly reduced.