Corel Video Studio *Sucks* - or is it just me?

[poisondeathray]

Even if you're just a weekend warrior with this stuff, your kids, and everyone else, are getting blasted on TV with Match Moves, Stop Motion, Particles, Motion Graphics, CGI graphics, etc. You don't want to be showing your videos with page peels and flyaway transitions. No-no. That stuff puts 'em to sleep.

(Devils advocate here too ...)

Some of your other points are valid , but how is vegas studio different than videostudio in this respect ? I think x6 has things like motion tracking, stop motion. Does vegas ?....

[zoobie]

I bought VS11+ for $30 years ago. It was a little entry-level editor at the time. I hear they've really expanded it now. You can always ask over at the corel VS forum to see what they say about your problem. Perhaps it just doesn't like your SSD or multiple cores or whatever. Where VS really shines is in assembling/authoring DVD and Blueray. While I edit and render in another software, VS has handled everything I've thrown at it resulting in very nice ISO which I then burn with imgburn.

[budwzr]

...I think x6 has things like motion tracking, stop motion. Does vegas ?....

It probably can import 3D models too, because those are the hot buzzwords flying around, like most of the cereal has "Greek Yogurt", but it's just flavoring of yogurt.

I'm gonna check it out though. I haven't followed it. I see my buddy Brainiac uses it, and he does compositing.

Hey, I thought you were just a devil's advocate. It's gettin' hot in here.

[MOVIEGEEK]

like all the cereal has "Greek Yogurt".

That's because of the movie "300", everybody wants to look like Leonidas or his hot wife.

As for VideoStudio sucking, just use whatever works for you.

[Steve(MS)]

Where VS really shines is in assembling/authoring DVD and Blueray. While I edit and render in another software, VS has handled everything I've thrown at it resulting in very nice ISO which I then burn with imgburn.

Just curious zoobie, can VS re-author a hd blu-ray video (say like a commercial blu-ray)?
And if so, what are its limitations?

[zoobie]

Just curious zoobie, can VS re-author a hd blu-ray video (say like a commercial blu-ray)?
And if so, what are its limitations?

Well, again, I've an older version of VS11 but I don't think it removes copywrite protection schemes on commercial BD discs. You'd probably have to rip with DVD Fab HD or similar and use BD Rebuilder. I've only worked with my own SD & HD by editing and rendering in Vegas Pro. Then, I drop the compliant files into VS and create menus, smart menus, motion menus, chapters, background music, etc. and create an ISO without re-rendering. It finshed a 60 minute BD production of mine in about 20 minutes but it depends on your computer's processing power.

Again, you can ask specific questions on the software at the VS forum. They're a pretty mature crowd there so you can inquire without kids typing nasty responses...unlike some places.

[budwzr]

Anyway, I'm still trying to answer the OP's original question, "Does Corel Video Studio suck?".

They're calling the Ultimate version "Pro", and that'll run you 99 bucks. If you're not a pro, yet, there's a $79 version, and for the minimalists, I think its $59. So they've got the market cornered, apparently.

I was born a po boy, into a po family, but now that I'm not po no mo, anything less than a c-note is chump change. I don't understand how three levels of editing software are only twenty bucks apart, and all under $100. That doesn't ring "robust".

Let's move on to the "Pro Tools". Yeah, some of those were pro back in the day. I guess they're worth $20 more, but throw another $20 and you can go up an NLE tier. Of course CVS would love to charge over a hundred dollars, but they stopped at 99 for a reason. Premiere Elements.

[Steve(MS)]

Just curious zoobie, can VS re-author a hd blu-ray video (say like a commercial blu-ray)?
And if so, what are its limitations?

Well, again, I've an older version of VS11 but I don't think it removes copywrite protection schemes on commercial BD discs. You'd probably have to rip with DVD Fab HD or similar and use BD Rebuilder. I've only worked with my own SD & HD by editing and rendering in Vegas Pro. Then, I drop the compliant files into VS and create menus, smart menus, motion menus, chapters, background music, etc. and create an ISO without re-rendering. It finshed a 60 minute BD production of mine in about 20 minutes but it depends on your computer's processing power.

Again, you can ask specific questions on the software at the VS forum. They're a pretty mature crowd there so you can inquire without kids typing nasty responses...unlike some places.

Yes, I am well aware that a commercial disc must be decrypted but I was curious what types of video and if it supported, for instance hd audio.
You see my question only pertained to whether it could re-author such...this would come in handy since only very expensive software is available for blu-ray disc.
Evidently from your response that is beyond your knowledge as to what it can do.
Thanks for your reply....but I don't plan on going on their forum...if I can't get the answer here, I'll pass.

[MOVIEGEEK]

VS can handle HD video from a BD but not all the audio formats:

Input Formats Supported

Video: AVI, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AVCHD™, MPEG-4, H.264, BDMV, DV, HDV™, DivX®, QuickTime®, RealVideo®, Windows Media® Format, MOD (JVC® MOD File Format), M2TS, M2T, TOD, 3GPP, 3GPP2
Audio: Dolby® Digital Stereo, Dolby® Digital 5.1, MP3, MPA, WAV, QuickTime, Windows Media® Audio
Images: BMP, CLP, CUR, EPS, FAX, FPX, GIF, ICO, IFF, IMG, J2K, JP2, JPC, JPG, PCD, PCT, PCX, PIC, PNG, PSD, PSPImage, PXR, RAS, RAW, SCT, SHG, TGA, TIF, UFO, UFP, WMF
Disc: DVD, Video CD (VCD), Super Video CD (SVCD)
Some format support may require third-party software.

[poisondeathray]

But that's to be expected; the more expensive pro editors don't support TrueHD or DTS-MA commonly found on BD's either, only LPCM

You see my question only pertained to whether it could re-author such...this would come in handy since only very expensive software is available for blu-ray disc.

Please clarify if you really meant authoring ? or did you mean editing ?

[Steve(MS)]

More specifically I was thinking about authoring...I see he mentioned menu blu-ray creation.
So creating a menu was really where I was going with all this.
I figured there was little chance it could handle hd audio but thought I would ask all the same.

We do have folks that want to do blu-ray menu creation and afa freeware goes, multiavchd is all that is available.
Even a basic menu possibility without re-encode would be nice.

[PhotoGatorVid]

I am using Corel VideoStudio Pro X6. For a week I have been working on a project to create a compilation of mpg video clips of my daughter's 14 years. Yesterday, some clips caused VS to freeze. Using VLC, I cut few frames at the beginning and ending, which for some of the trouble causing videos, made them work, but for this last one, still freezing/crashing VS.

Any suggestions? I need help. This project is very important and need to be done by the first week of September.
Is Adobe Premier better?


Complete name : C:\Users\Lourdes & Bruno\Videos\Amaris 15th Birthday Project\Extracted Frames\SVF_0009\SVT_01_1\arvc04bad.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 31.4 MiB
Duration : 53s 408ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 4 927 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Duration : 53s 387ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 4 506 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Time code of first frame : 00:07:27:00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601

Audio #1
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio #2
ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : DVD-Video
Duration : 53s 408ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -30ms
Stream size : 1.63 MiB (5%)

[Brainiac]

Do all files have same specs as posted? How did you get mpeg-2 files? If you have software to convert mpeg-2 to another format then that may help.

Can you upload problematic file for testing purposes?

Brainiac

[PhotoGatorVid]

Brainiac, thanks. Before reading your post, I downloaded Prism Video File Converter Plus. I converted the problem causing video clip file to mp4 and asf,
Bang! Bang! Bang!
Both worked fine.

http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html

[Brainiac]

Great that you worked it out!

BTW, looking at your computer's specs you really should consider using an external drive for video storage, at the very least. Using the system drive to store video files is NEVER a good idea. And it looks like your system drive is very full. Good idea to free up space.

Brainiac

[PhotoGatorVid]

I was thinking to pull a hard drive hooked to my Directv box which contains recordings from previous provider and reformat it. I am also backing up to a 64gb thumb drive. Thanks for the suggestion. It is appreciated.