Newbie here with PotPlayer. Can't figure out how to use it to play a BluRay movie disc.
I do have AnyDVDHD installed if that is required to be running (as I imagine it is), although obviously it is not required when I use PowerDVD12 to play BluRay movies.
So, can someone please give me the step-by-step what do I do to play a BluRay movie using PotPlayer.
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If all else fails, you can probably play the .m2ts video file with the main movie in PotPlayer. I don't recall reading that PotPlayer has Blu-ray menu support. If you can open the BD disc to browse for video files, look in BDMV\STREAM\ for the .m2ts files. The largest .m2ts file is usually the main movie.
AnyDVDHD) but the largest one isn't necessarily THE movie file. It might be the last 1:30 or something of a 1:45 movie, don't ask me why.
The .mpls files seemed promising as well, but there's no easy way to know which one is for what setup/configuration use.
I thought people were touting PotPlayer as being a "BluRay media player... KING OF MEDIA PLAYERS", specifically to play BluRay movies. Is this pure fiction??
I don't actually need it as I have PowerDVD12 which obviously works perfectly fine for my needs (actually, I have no needs since I have an external mechanical Oppo BluRay player in my entertainment system and do NOT use my PC for playing BluRay movies on my real HDTV). So this is all quite theoretical, to see how to play BluRay movies on my PC.
But so far, it would appear someone's telling a big fib about PotPlayer actually being a true USABLE AND USEFUL media player capable of really playing BluRay movie discs.
Anybody else have the answer to my question??
Pot Player has a lot of fans, and some of them are very enthusiastic about it, maybe a little too enthusiastic at times. I have tried it, but I'm not fond of the interface and didn't find that it offered any particular benefits for my purposes,
The development teams for VLC and MediaPortal are working on adding full Blu-Ray support to them, but so far there are no free programs that are really close to being able to do everything that the better paid Blu-Ray player software can do. I went ahead and bought PowerDVD 12 Ultra too.
powerdvd, why are you asking about it?
Short answer is if one remuxes a blu-ray disc main movie to only one m2ts, then it will play in potplayer, etc.
You are comparing a payware to freeware, one would hope a payware is a better product.
Those payware players have to pay fees in order to have full support for blu-ray discs.
The creators of the blu-ray format made it very complicated to play menus and extras
and we still don't have very good freeware authoring tools.
Give thanks to Sony for all that.
anyDVD notwithstanding. Research pointed to the Cinavia-infested nature of PowerDVD12, so in the end, since it was a new re-installation of Windows, I reformatted C: and just put back PowerDVD9. Worked as good as it always did.For the nth time, with the possible exception of certain Intel processors, I don't have/ever owned anything whose name starts with "i".
In passing, I notice that a number of recent updates with AnyDVDHD deal specifically with Cinavia issues.
But as was already mentioned, I too do not have anything but commercially purchased genuine BluRay discs. No rips, no MKV versions re-muxed, no copies. I previously had PowerDVD9 Ultra and a few months ago upgraded to PowerDVD12. However as I've stated, I honestly don't use this software at all because I never really play BluRay movies through my PC. I only play BluRay movies via my "real" Oppo players to my HDTV through my home theater system.
So all software players for BluRay are just "playing in the sandbox", experimenting and trying things. I've got a whole bunch of assorted players that I've tried over the years, but WMP seems to work fine for me for virtually everything, with VLC covering for the rest. With WMC acting as my HTPC (Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner card for cable, and Hauppauge HVR-2250 2-tuner card for OTA/ATSC) delivering HDTV to the three HDTV's around my house, I have to be very careful NOT to install any outside codec-packs to destroy the integrity of Windows Media Foundation which is why WMP and WMC work so well for me and my own video collection. ZERO need for anything outside of FFDSHOW (needed for multiAVCHD when I burn my own BluRay collections from VideoReDo-edited copy-freely WTV programs recorded by WMC).
And in particular I'm just really experimenting with PotPlayer (having only learned about it for the very first time this past week in a thread on SevenForums which touted it as "yet another media player to play BluRay movies"... and free). PotPlayer seems to handle things better than VLC, from what I've tried. I also like the way it looks (using XMP4 skin).
Again, none of this is urgent or critical. But I thought I was going to find a free media player that actually COULD truly play a commercial BluRay movie disc conveniently. Seems I was mistaken.
You absolutely can "play a commerical BD movie conveniently" on the PC.
I use AnyDVD + mostly either Potplayer or TMT (if a full menu is absolutely required). The beauty of Potplayer (or VLC, MPC-HC) with AnyDVD and commercial discs is rapid movie start - no Warnings, Intros, Java, or BD+ to block Resume play. A good software player will auto parse the main feature playlist (correct most of the time, otherwise pretty easy to guess). Potplayer in particular is terrific for resuming the last play position even after a restart. AnyDVD HD also features Speedmenu which is another quick start method (title list), open with TMT or similar.
DSperber - You are wasting your money with PowerDVD. The ONLY commercial BluRay player anybody should buy is Total Media Theater. Cyberlink (they make PowerDVD) is pretty consumer hostile. I gave up on them years ago when they took away the ability to make snapshots from movies because Hollywood literally feared that someone might use it to "copy" an entire movie frame by frame. Of course this in no way explained how said pirates were going to copy the audio too. Every release of PowerDVD through about 9 got less and less functional than the one before it and I stopped keeping it. I honestly wondered if it might reach the point where PowerDVD wouldn't play any files at all because they sure seemed headed in that direction.
VLC used to be a great program and I still use it, but the whole 2.x release has just really sucked in my opinion. I at least give them credit that they finally got the various code bases in alignment with 2.x (the Apple one in particular was divergent enough from the Windows code base to be a completely different product) but I am really disappointed in VLC now. It didn't give me a lot of hope to read about all the time their main developer spent to remove VLC from the Apple Store for iPhone and iPad over (in my opinion) a "cut your nose off to spite your face" spat over licensing terminology used by Apple.
NO free players can play BluRay perfectly all the time. That's why we buy Total Media Theater. At least Arcsoft still values its customers, unlike Cyberlink who can't go far enough to please their evil masters in Hollywood.
I tried both TMT and PowerDVD Ultra before purchasing. I don't care about making screen shots. I was only looking for the ability to play Blu-Ray movies from the original discs. Both PowerDVD Ultra and TMT performed well for playing discs, so I decided to save some money and buy PowerDVD 12 Ultra for $30 less. (Both TMT and PowerDVD offered substantial discount at the time.)
Companies like Nero, Corel, Cyberlink and ArcSoft don't really have much choice but to comply with what the entertainment industry in general or Sony in particular wants. Only a small percentage of consumers use software players for playing Blu-Ray discs, so software companies seeking licensing have even less to bargain with than companies making hardware Blu-Ray players. That is why, among other things, the current versions of all licensed commercial software Blu-Ray players are Cinavia compliant and HDCP compliant. It is a requirement for obtaining an AACS license. Unlike Slysoft or DVDFab, which can't be sued on account of their location, Nero, Corel, Cyberlink and ArcSoft need to make a licensed product to avoid lawsuits.
Last edited by usually_quiet; 30th Mar 2013 at 12:35.
What is "step #1", etc., to get me started? Obviously I'm not seeing what it is I need to push or open to actually get the movie playing.
I use AnyDVD + mostly either Potplayer or TMT (if a full menu is absolutely required). The beauty of Potplayer (or VLC, MPC-HC) with AnyDVD and commercial discs is rapid movie start - no Warnings, Intros, Java, or BD+ to block Resume play. A good software player will auto parse the main feature playlist (correct most of the time, otherwise pretty easy to guess).
With PotPlayer where do I go, what mouse-clicks, what menus, what folders on the BluRay disk to I have to open or navigate through, what do I look for, what do I do, what do I KNOW vs. GUESS, how do I get started??
Clearly I'm not seeing something that perhaps should be known in advance, which is exactly why I posted this thread.
Please share the "how to play a BluRay"instructions, with specifics.
Potplayer in particular is terrific for resuming the last play position even after a restart. AnyDVD HD also features Speedmenu which is another quick start method (title list), open with TMT or similar.
I have a commercial BluRay movie disc.
Tell me what to do to play that BluRay movie disc with AnyDVDHD and PotPlayer please.
PotPlayer is one of these free players that actually can play BluRay SOME OF THE TIME, please tell me HOW? How does one actually open the disc and start playing the movie???
That's why we buy Total Media Theater. At least Arcsoft still values its customers, unlike Cyberlink who can't go far enough to please their evil masters in Hollywood.
I want individual tools and programs, that I initiate their functions when I want to use them. I didn't get the feeling that TMT was like that... just a "player".
Anyway, I'm not trying to defend the commercial products, and PowerDVD vc. TMT (although I do think that WinDVD was crap). I'm only trying to learn how to use PotPlayer to play a BluRay disc movie... from the very first step, through each button-push or action I must take. What is the recipe?
AnyDVD HD (wait until it says it's ready)
2. Start PotPlayer
3. Press [F2] (Open Directory), Select the BD drive
or: right click inside the PP window, select Open, CD-Drive (last item normally)
The movie should now start!
You can also create a desktop shortcut:
e.g. "C:\Program Files\PotPlayer\PotPlayer.exe" /cd:F (where 'F' is your BD drive)
(this shortcut will always start at the beginning; to Resume start PotPlayer normally and just press Play)
Once playing, if you look at the top menu bar you'll see the Playlist that it has auto selected (or press [F6]), this is generally correct. Rarely, you may need to select another playlist: Stop playback (important), Open File [Ctl O], select the .mpls in the BDMV\PLAYLIST folder. There may be a lot of them, certain studios use common playlist numbers for their main feature and another for the extended cuts. They are often consecutive. e.g. 00000/00001 or 00800/00801 are common, but this is not an absolute.
I should mention that PotPlayer has a problem with seamless BD playlists. It's noticeable if you use the scrub-bar a bit (particularly reverse) rather than just watching the movie from start to finish (which seems fine). Pause/Play is of course fine. I posted a bug report (on this forum too), but haven't seen any fixes listed yet. VLC will play seamless BD playlists flawlessly, but I prefer PotPlayer in every other regard (speed & stability) so will wait patiently.
Last edited by katipo; 30th Mar 2013 at 15:10.
Potplayer Useful shortcuts
[A] Audio stream select
[L] Subtitle stream select
[Alt+H] Show/Hide Subtitles
[F] [D] Frame Advance | Back
[Lft] [Rgt] Skip (with Ctl, Alt, Shift variations)
[Sht+PgDn|PgUp] Chapter Skip
[H] Chapter/Bookmark select
[V] Switch Video Renderer (test with restart). Spend some time getting this right ('Auto' may not be ideal).
[Ctl+E] Screen Snapshot (actual size)
[Ctl+Alt+E] Snapshot (win size)
[Tab], [Alt+F1] Info (pause BD first if entering extended info tab)
Mouse: rt-click 'Filters / HDMV Playlist Source' to select Video (incl PiP)/ Audio/ Subtitle streams
Tip: Everything in PotPlayer is configurable (I'm still learning). Using the right skin can make a huge difference to your experience. Skins allow nearly any setting to be switched, or info to be displayed. Although I still like the uncluttered original TMT3 lookalike skin.
Last edited by katipo; 30th Mar 2013 at 17:15.
potplayer but many of us simply rip the main movie out, putting the main movie in one m2ts file.
This way one can play in almost any media player that is capable of HD and playing m2ts files.
Players that can do this, whether burned back to disc or simply playing the m2ts file include but not limited to VLC, Potplayer, SMplayer,MPC-HC and splash lite.
VLC with patches can play store bought blu-ray discs, I would say most of them...the main movie part.
That should include all older blu-rays...the ones in the past couple of years...some of them with the advanced java and fake playlists...not.
Once again I doubt any freeware will play menus...at least not accurately.
My mistake was that I was pushing the OPEN button right in the middle of the player (I use XMP4 skin). This initiates the OPEN dialog window, but if you select the drive here nothing happens. Apparently that's because this OPEN dialog is actually an "Open File" dialog and I haven't actually selected a FILE.
I never knew about F2 to initiate the "Browse for folder" dialog, where if you select the drive PotPlayer obviously now searches for that main playlist file in the "folder" which is the entire drive's folder structure, finds it in the \BDMV\Playlists folder, and starts playing as it should.
One simple mistake... that's all I made. Your tip has enlightened me.
or: right click inside the PP window, select Open, CD-Drive (last item normally)
Also, right-click while the mouse is over the OPEN button in the center of the XMP4 skin actually does nothing. You have to have known to right click off of the OPEN button, elsewhere in the player window, in order to get the context menu. GRRRR...
Nevertheless, sure enough now that you've given me these facts, right-click on the proper area of the PP window and -> OPEN (not Open Files, which actually opens the \BDMV\Playlists folder on the disc) and sure enough at the bottom of the OPEN flyout menu is the item to select the drive itself. And selecting it surely does now initiate proper playing of the disc in the drive (obviously finding the \BDMV\Playlists folder and using the main playlist).
The movie should now start!
MANY MANY THANKS!
Once playing, if you look at the top menu bar you'll see the Playlist that it has auto selected (or press [F6]), this is generally correct.
I hadn't stumbled into that one when I was first experimenting. I thought it would be a LARGE playlist file rather than a tiny 1K playlist file, which would probably correspond to the main movie with many dozens shown. Obviously I was wrong.
Well, that's all it took. That's all I was looking for to get started, because it was clear I'd missed something very very basic.
Thank you again for that one push to get me off the dime.
BTW, [F3] is another shortcut for Open File.
I'm not certain how PotPlayer (or VLC + MPC-HC) decides the default playlist, but most likely just scans all looking for the longest timecode. Unfortunately it's not flawless. Commercial software players (with full menu support) are more sophistocated, and seem to always get it right.
If anyone is interested in learning more about playlists, check out John Stebbins' excellent "bdtools". You can use mpls_dump to filter by timecode and remove duplicate titles. It can quickly narrow potentially hundreds of playlists down to just a few.