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  1. I'm trying to get DVD Styler to produce an SD NTSC-compliant DVD from an MPEG file I encoded outside the application using HcEnc, without re-encoding it again. The source file is HD and according to MediaInfo is NTSC progressive 23.976 fps, and I am under the impression that DVD Styler can produce an NTSC-compliant DVD for a progressive film source of 23.976 fps without re-encoding.

    Could someone let me know why DVD Styler is identifying the m2v file as PAL, and therefore preventing the video from being copied over without re-encoding?

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    Here is the Media Info file from the source file:


    Complete name : C:\Video.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
    File size : 994 MiB
    Duration : 2h 18mn
    Overall bit rate : 1 003 Kbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-21 15:39:04
    Writing application : mkvmerge v6.1.0 ('Old Devil') built on Mar 2 2013 14:32:37
    Writing library : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.0

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 9 frames
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 2h 18mn
    Bit rate : 809 Kbps
    Width : 1 280 pixels
    Height : 536 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.049
    Stream size : 784 MiB (79%)
    Writing library : x264 core 129 r2230 1cffe9f
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=10 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=2 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=809 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 2h 18mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 190 MiB (19%)
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No

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    My goal is to convert the file to full-D1 SD NTSC progressive 23.976 without pulldown. I am using HcEnc v0.25 as the video encoder. The audio file was identified as NTSC-compliant by DVD Styler. Test AVS script for the video encode was initially simple and looked like this:

    DirectShowSource("C:\Video.mkv",fps=23.976,convert fps=true)
    #convertfps to prevent audio synch issues if source is vfr
    LanczosResize(720,480)

    For purposes of testing (first 3000 frames, the encoder was set for auto GOP 14 max, DC 10, 16:9 aspect, min bitrate 3000 and max bitrate 6000). The encode finished successfully, and here is its Media Info file:

    General
    Complete name : C:\Test1.m2v
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 44.0 MiB
    Duration : 2mn 5s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 2 953 Kbps

    Video
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Custom
    Format settings, GOP : Variable
    Duration : 2mn 5s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 2 953 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 6 000 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.356
    Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00
    Stream size : 44.0 MiB (100%)

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    Media Info file says the output is still NTSC, but DVD Styler says it is PAL.

    I had previously tried a different approach, demuxing the raw video to AVC and then running it through DGAVCIndex to produce a .dga project. File info from the indexing confirmed fps was 23.976 but indicated Colorimetry standard 709 so I ran a second AVS script including the ColorMatrix filter to change from 709 to 601 standard, still producing a PAL-identified file to DVD Styler. Also added ConvertToYUY2() to the script for a final test, and still identified by DVD Styler as PAL.

    I'm relatively new to using DVD Styler (mildly experienced with Avisynth / HcEnc usage) and I am confused as to why it says the source is PAL. Do I need different format settings in HcEnc (Profile/GOP/BVOP/Matrix), or a modification of the AVS script, to get the video to true NTSC-compliance? Is MediaInfo mis-identifying the file as NTSC? Or is pulldown (23.976 > 29.970) absolutely necessary for DVD Styler to skip re-encoding?
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  2. I've no idea of how DVDStyler identify a source as either PAL/NTSC or one that needs re-encoding.

    But for what it's worth: I made a NSTC DVD today using DVDStyler. My MO:

    - Rip BR to 1280x544 (2.35:1 movie) h.264/DTS MKV.
    - Re-encode to MPEG2 using MediaCoder
    - Author in DVDStyler

    By now I've delete my intermediate files but I made a re-encode of the first two minutes with MediaCoder. Using NTSC as project settings in DVDStyler it'll accept this file as NTSC and use "Copy" mode for video and audio. Using PAL as project setting DVDStyler will identify this as NTSC and asks if I want to change the project settings to NTSC.

    Have you tried just to use NTSC project settings and merely set "Copy" mode for video and see what happens?

    Here is the MediaInfo for my MPEG2 clip:

    General
    Unique ID : 46553066959971128021287181158345487341 (0x2305CB68AF8B08142F1F66C33F9233ED)
    Complete name : C:\MediaCoderOut\Hunt_BackupA.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 66.8 MiB
    Duration : 2mn 0s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 4 647 Kbps
    Movie name : MediaCoder
    Writing application : Lavf54.59.106
    Writing library : Lavf54.59.106

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : No
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Codec ID : V_MPEG2
    Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
    Duration : 2mn 0s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 4 363 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 24.000 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.526
    Stream size : 62.7 MiB (94%)
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 2mn 0s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : 1mn 5s
    Stream size : 2.76 MiB (4%)
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No
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  3. Tried your suggestion with resetting the default but DVD Styler continues to disable the "Copy" option. Probably because of the resolution not being PAL-compliant.

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    Originally Posted by Blinkerzon View Post
    Tried your suggestion with resetting the default but DVD Styler continues to disable the "Copy" option. Probably because of the resolution not being PAL-compliant.

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