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    If you using USB 3.0 port you may run in to some problem you try out this set of driver here ftp://ftp.hauppauge.com/Support/HDPVR2/HDPVR2_Driver_1_4_31143.exe
    Note for the late Hauppauge Capture Tool keep eye on there face book page and I should point out that it dosen't support AC3 you have use Showbiz or WinTV 7
    Any here a tip for all if your doing any PC Gaming Recording
    http://www.shspvr.com/howto/spdif-optical/spdif.html
    I can't speak for component input but I was only getting aac audio at first with the capture program over HDMI when I only installed that new driver with the capture app. It was ignoring my settings. I had to install the full bundle containing Showbiz, WinTV7 etc... on the "Beta" page I referenced in my earlier post (#70) which includes the 1.4.31143 driver as above (you have to open the beta tab in the link I provided to see it). After that under "Advanced" and "Audio Encoder" uncheck "disable HDMI ac3 support" in the capture app. Then close it and open Showbiz and make sure it is unchecked there too. Then reopen the capture app and now it should cap ac3 over hdmi. I unplugged the pvr2 after doing this and rebooted the PC and it works.

    What's missing in the capture app is the feature to stop the cap after a set time like there is in Showbiz.
    I was ref to spdif optical not HDMI and I know all about that option gll99 beside it not possible route Dolby Digital Live Encoding over HDMI the way I need it.
    Then put in a req for that option gll99
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    Originally Posted by SHS View Post
    If you using USB 3.0 port you may run in to some problem you try out this set of driver here ftp://ftp.hauppauge.com/Support/HDPVR2/HDPVR2_Driver_1_4_31143.exe
    Note for the late Hauppauge Capture Tool keep eye on there face book page and I should point out that it dosen't support AC3 you have use Showbiz or WinTV 7
    Any here a tip for all if your doing any PC Gaming Recording
    http://www.shspvr.com/howto/spdif-optical/spdif.html
    I hadn't noticed they had a new driver. The date on their update page for the driver is the same as for the previous driver.

    I couldn't get the new driver to install. It started, displayed "Please Wait..." and hung there. I waited about 45 minutes and had to log off in order to shut it down. Fortunately, the previous driver was still there. I just don't have time to try a lot of things this week, maybe over the long weekend next week if I recluse myself.
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    That odd and the driver use lee end up on ftp first but it will end on there web page to
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    Originally Posted by SHS View Post
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    If you using USB 3.0 port you may run in to some problem you try out this set of driver here ftp://ftp.hauppauge.com/Support/HDPVR2/HDPVR2_Driver_1_4_31143.exe
    Note for the late Hauppauge Capture Tool keep eye on there face book page and I should point out that it dosen't support AC3 you have use Showbiz or WinTV 7
    Any here a tip for all if your doing any PC Gaming Recording
    http://www.shspvr.com/howto/spdif-optical/spdif.html
    I can't speak for component input but I was only getting aac audio at first with the capture program over HDMI when I only installed that new driver with the capture app. It was ignoring my settings. I had to install the full bundle containing Showbiz, WinTV7 etc... on the "Beta" page I referenced in my earlier post (#70) which includes the 1.4.31143 driver as above (you have to open the beta tab in the link I provided to see it). After that under "Advanced" and "Audio Encoder" uncheck "disable HDMI ac3 support" in the capture app. Then close it and open Showbiz and make sure it is unchecked there too. Then reopen the capture app and now it should cap ac3 over hdmi. I unplugged the pvr2 after doing this and rebooted the PC and it works.

    What's missing in the capture app is the feature to stop the cap after a set time like there is in Showbiz.
    I was ref to spdif optical not HDMI and I know all about that option gll99 beside it not possible route Dolby Digital Live Encoding over HDMI the way I need it.
    Then put in a req for that option gll99
    I don't use it but does this apply?


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    That output not input keep mind we want capture it not output
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    Originally Posted by SHS View Post
    That output not input keep mind we want capture it not output
    Sorry my bad. Just proves I don't use it. (lol)

    What about this does it not work?

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    Maybe you've seen this thread on the AVS forum... http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460986/hd-pvr-2-1512-owners-thread especially post #3 and #14 where 2 users said earlier driver versions had a bug which showed spdif input as a second hdmi. (Not sure if it applies to all PVR2 models)
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    I told you that Tool doesn't work with AC3 only Showbiz works with AC3 recording
    spdif input if self does work
    That bug is in Showbiz
    You know who I'm right aka SHSPVR see my web site
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    Originally Posted by SHS View Post
    I told you that Tool doesn't work with AC3 only Showbiz works with AC3 recording
    spdif input if self does work
    That bug is in Showbiz
    You know who I'm right aka SHSPVR see my web site
    Nope I have no idea who you are but that's not your fault I have a short memory. As long as you know who you are that's all that counts . I'm not sure I noticed you on VH before this thread but as a 1212. and 1512 owner and like everyone else new to the recent 1512 and/or game editions, I appreciate all comments about the units so we can identify the bugs and possible workarounds. I'll quick peek your site when I have the time. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by vhelp View Post
    i can't believe that you are the only one suffering this issue. yours is the first so far.

    but, have you tried smartcutter yet ? it receives good reviews. the trail version puts a watermark at the front, first few frames or so. at least test it to see if the video cuts and then displays the time info. i just fed it my hdpvr-1 corrept video from yesterday and it ran through it fine. new and original video process fine through smartcutter.

    edit: re smartcutter. its a lazy tool. you have load the given file. you can't drag-n drop--can't believe it lacks this needed feature in this tool for loading .ts files. anyway. click on the pink [Open] button to load the .ts file.

    edit: another tool suggestion, download DGAVCindex and run the file through it. see if it previews through the whole video. you can also demux the complete video out, .264 i think is the ext. however, don't attempt to pan left or right, it will crash. nothing like's these hdpvr-1/2 .ts files, then choke, always. the exception is when you don't have a preview. anyway, just feed it through and let the software take over.

    I had some time this extended weekend and tried TS-Doctor and TSRemux. Both of these did a fairly equal job of fixing the "glitched" ts files that I had, perhaps TS-Doctor does a little more since it's main purpose is to repair. I was able to edit the resulting files with Video Redo without a problem.

    I did have a major glitch while capturing a movie from my DVR, and stopped the capture about a half minute after the picture and audio dropped out for a few seconds. The resulting ts file played for only 26 seconds and played only the start of the movie. I ran this file thru TS-Doctor and it produced a 26 second output file with the beginning of the movie! TSRemux produced a file that played from the start of the movie to the point where the drop out occurred. I think it's a good idea to keep both of these tools around. If one doesn't work, the other might.
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    Hey folks what's up!?!?! I'm dealing with a streaming issue. I seem to be capturing fine but when I try to stream to UStream Streameez is telling me I'm on air but when I check the channel it's telling we're off the air. I'm using the latest drivers downloaded from the website with the latest bundled capture download from the same page also. Anybody have any ideas what it could be. Tried uninstalling the program and drivers and reinstalling and nothing. I did however get 5 minutes of broadcasting when I first started it. This is on both my computers also one running 7 and one running 8. Please help this issue is going to cause me a contract if I don't get it fixed by the end of the month!!!
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    ScottPomroy sorry I can't help with that as my ISP is to slow even for just for fun it testing
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  12. I am having timing problems similar to what was posted by another OP a few months ago. My timing errors seem to occur when I'm recording off my D***v HD DVR or receiver (not happening off of streaming services such as A*****n) Yesterday I recorded a movie both off my DVR (the next day) and off the receiver (actual broadcast). Neither timing was correct (4 hours from one and 23 minutes from another when the real length is 79 minutes). Additionally (from Mediainfo) the recording bit rates were impossibly off. I tried TsDoctor to no avail; Tsremuxer helped considerably.

    The strangest thing that I noted was that for the recording (off-loaded from the DVR) and set for 79 minutes (the length of the movie) in Showbiz, the resulting recording had all of the movie plus a significant amount of material from H*O that occurred after the movie had ended. No such issue with the recording off my HD receiver when actually broadcasted using Win TV.

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  13. Originally Posted by JimLely View Post
    I am having timing problems similar to what was posted by another OP a few months ago. My timing errors seem to occur when I'm recording off my D***v HD DVR or receiver (not happening off of streaming services such as A*****n) Yesterday I recorded a movie both off my DVR (the next day) and off the receiver (actual broadcast). Neither timing was correct (4 hours from one and 23 minutes from another when the real length is 79 minutes). Additionally (from Mediainfo) the recording bit rates were impossibly off. I tried TsDoctor to no avail; Tsremuxer helped considerably.

    The strangest thing that I noted was that for the recording (off-loaded from the DVR) and set for 79 minutes (the length of the movie) in Showbiz, the resulting recording had all of the movie plus a significant amount of material from H*O that occurred after the movie had ended. No such issue with the recording off my HD receiver when actually broadcasted using Win TV.

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    Finally got around to unboxing my 1512. Got everything set up and tried some test caps. First bunch done with the new cap software had great pic but out of sync audio. Second set of test caps, everything was great at max. recording settings and using HDMI audio. File sizes are big at about 1/2 GB per minute but that's okay as I am using a 2TB drive as the cap drive. Have to try longer caps and some of the other software including the Arcsoft stuff for caps with SPDIF but that software wants me to disable all the Hauppage software in order to work. Since most of the stuff I will be capping is old and the original audio was mono or at best stereo, it's not a big problem at present. I think I'm going to have a lot less problems because of all the help you people have provided over the past several months. For that, thank you all...
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    Well, more playing around. Can cap great video at maximum settings in the Hauppage Capture software but can't get AC-3 audio to work. 2 channels is it. Those files play in everything I've tried them on as well, the TS files can be easily edited in VideoReDo without re-encoding and in perfect sync. I tried using SPDIF as the source but get judder as well as out of sync audio and video. By rights, HDMI 6 channel SHOULD work but some people were able to make it work using an old version of Arcsoft Showbiz that used to be included with Hauppage's installation discs. That software is no longer available on either the HDPVR 1 or 2 installation discs (I have both products) Nor from the Hauppage support web site. So, now what to do? Any thoughts?
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  16. Originally Posted by oldfart13 View Post
    Well, more playing around. Can cap great video at maximum settings in the Hauppage Capture software but can't get AC-3 audio to work. 2 channels is it. Those files play in everything I've tried them on as well, the TS files can be easily edited in VideoReDo without re-encoding and in perfect sync. I tried using SPDIF as the source but get judder as well as out of sync audio and video. By rights, HDMI 6 channel SHOULD work but some people were able to make it work using an old version of Arcsoft Showbiz that used to be included with Hauppage's installation discs. That software is no longer available on either the HDPVR 1 or 2 installation discs (I have both products) Nor from the Hauppage support web site. So, now what to do? Any thoughts?

    Hauppauge Capture does record AC-3 5.1. Be sure to uncheck the box in "Advanced" called "disable 5.1 support" or something like that. Also, there is a web site that has the contents of an older installation CD which has Showbiz. If you PM me I'll give you the website.

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    Got Showbiz installed. Unchecked disable AC-3 for HDMI in both Showbiz and Hauppage Capture. Test captures from both using different sources still shows all caps being in AAC 2 channel stereo. Only thing I can think of at this point is to uninstall the older TME software which may somehow (though I don't see how) interfere with capping with the new software even when it's not active. Drivers or ?? Maybe...

    Got SPDIF audio as an input working now. It's at a setting I don't even have 384 Kbps. The default setting is 192 Kbps. Still recording in AAC though according to media info and VLC.
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    What's your source and are you able to verify that it is outputting 5.1?
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    6141 satellite receiver. Movie channels are all Dolby surround.TV verifies this from the output of the splitter, so it's not that causing problems.
    Don't think it's a source problem at this point. The SPDIF SHOULD give multichannel surround sound as well, so it's definitely a problem going from the HDMI to the recorder.

    Looks like I'll have to keep the TME program on the computer. It was the only way to produce an easily made AVCHD and burn it to disc. Tried MultiAVCHD and Imgburn but it produced an unplayable disc.
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    Just a heads up for those in Canada...the HDPVR 2 is on sale for $149.95 plus tax at Future Shop? I was able to get some money back using their price protection plan as I had bought mine 2 weeks ago at $199.95...

    http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/hauppauge-hauppauge-hd-pvr-2-1519/10242273.aspx...5c2864299cen02
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  21. $124 for the HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition at Amazon.com. Maybe there's a new model coming out soon?
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    $124 for the HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition at Amazon.com. Maybe there's a new model coming out soon?
    There is the Gaming Edition Plus:


    http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Edition-Definition-Capture-Passthrough/dp/B00BQ7KICQ/r...g+edition+plus
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  23. Originally Posted by oldfart13 View Post
    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    $124 for the HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition at Amazon.com. Maybe there's a new model coming out soon?
    There is the Gaming Edition Plus:
    That's been around for a while though.
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    Originally Posted by jagabo View Post
    $124 for the HD PVR 2 Gaming Edition at Amazon.com. Maybe there's a new model coming out soon?

    If it's this one, there is something weird with some pics on the one showing at $119.99

    http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Edition-Definition-Capture-Passthrough/dp/B008ZT8QKO/r...Gaming+Edition

    I see a yellow rca plug and a round jack in one of the pics on the left side and the box on that pic is the old style PVR 1? Looks like a mix of pics from new and old. There was also an earlier edition gaming edition so I'd be a bit wary if it's too cheap.

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    Ok I just noticed there is a tab to select the model you want so they are showing a mixed bag of pics and not all will apply depending on the model you choose
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    That's the old one...not the GE Plus nor the HDPVR 2 that came out in February. This lists all models:

    http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/prods.html
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    Latest version of the drivers allow me to record AC-3 audio through HDMI in Hauppage Capture. Bad thing is stopping the recording results in the program locking up. Has to be reboot under Windows 7...
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    are you using the hdpvr oringal or hdpvr 2 ?

    have you tried using graphstudio (gs) to record your source ?

    if you use gs, and depending on your graphics subsystem, you may be able to record video with preview. i am not able to on my system. however, since i have a tv behind me and am also using a usb analog capture card as my main preview (i mainly watch tv on the computer, and this setup uses the least amount of cpu resoruces) i don't need the gs preview. so i wrote a utility (uses a saved .grf file from gs) that just allows me to record from the pvr, like dvio utility for dv) but w/out having to load gs up. this is my main recorder app for the hdpvr 1. i use this every day. plus, its startup time is instant.

    my point with gs is, if you can record video and ac3, does it crash ? if not, then as an alternative, maybe use that instead until a fix is made to the hdpvr 2's driver.
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    No, I'm using the HDPVR 2. I'm using Showbiz and Hauppage Capture because they were supplied to me with updates by Hauppage support. I have
    Full preview as my laptop is an i5 Asus. CPU maxes out at about 24% at maximum settings. Thanks for the offer on the other program by the way.
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  29. Hello and first time user. I think this is a pretty cool place and very nice place to get info. I picked up the HD PVR 2 1512 a few weeks ago. everything seems to be a go so far. One thing i did notice about the optic cord and capturing ac3 5.1 on the D N is if i get clicking or popping in the audio, this is where it like to stop the recording, then start back up sometime i loose 30 mins of a recording or may even be half of a movie. I have been trying the analog RCA for audio and composite RED GREEN BLUE for the video side as a work around on movies that have these noises in them. seems to be working so far.
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  30. Hello again, i just tried the hauppauge video ripper with the optic side and everything seem very smooth. 2 hr ts file will be about 7-9 gigs of space with component and optical cord capturing in 5.1 this is a set bit rate of 8 - 9 mbps. Side note using handbrake to convert to mkv files for my server file size will be 1.3 - 1.8 gigs, and still have a very nice clean capture and dvd or better look to it. i would love to try the hdmi side of things to get some 1080p but with the digital tears in the video i've heard, i wanted to at least get 5.l audio with 480p dvd quality.
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