Are you interested in a next gen xbox or playstation?

[yoda313]

Sony will be having some kind of press conference in the near future that is expected to be about the ps4. There is every reason to believe a new xbox will be out by the end of the year or early next year.

Are you interested?

Are you a gamer?

I will not likely invest in a new console until either Halo 5 comes out as a next gen xbox exclusive or some truly killer app/feature makes it an absolute must have.

Whenever I do eventually by the next consoles (sony and microsoft - skipping wii u for the time being) I want the following:

1 - virtually no load times at any time during a game
2 - full backward compatibility with current gen games
3 - full access to any and all digital content purchased on current gen consoles
4 - MKV file playback support! - If they don't include this they are insane
5 - a sub 500.00 launch price
6 - must have optical drives - no download only machines please!
7 - no internet-only machines - (new headline suggesting next xbox may require an internet connection to work at all - STUPID!!!)
8 - Oh and games that are still fun of course
9 - Bluray drive on the next xbox

Thats about it for now.

What about you? Do you game? Do you care about the ps4 or xbox 720 whenever they come?

Edit - if microsoft or sony would license and install the hardware that wdtv uses for the wdtv media players that would totally rock! THat would make them into the ultimate living room machine.

Just think they could really do anything then. And if microsoft would add flash support to the ie browser they have the xbox you really could have a htpc out of game console then. Because the ie app is actually very functional except for no flash.

[yoda313]

Well with the lack of response after the pre-release press conference I guess there aren't too many here who are interested in a ps4.....

Interesting that there wasn't a console for showing, apparently not even a mockup.

The instant download thing sounds interesting. Though I don't know how that will work if its the "full" game. Is it still the full bluray version that current ps3 titles are using that they are talking about? Or are these the psn store "light" titles that can be 1-2 gigs or less?

I didn't catch the conference and have only read an article or two. Was there any talk about harddrive size?

Also there was talk about backward compatibility. However it didn't seem like they were firm on whether or not that was full disc compatibility or the "virtual store" concept of rebuying your titles again.

I'll look forward to more specs and info.

However except for the Uncharted series there isn't a must have game franchise that Sony has exclusivity on to get me wanting the ps4 right away.

Now as for the xbox 360 if halo 5 is a 720 launch title I'll have to scrape together a little quicker to get in on the bandwagon. Though depending on personal circumstances at the time I may have to wait a few months to a year before jumping in.

[TreeTops]

I think this is why not too many have responded to your request: http://club.myce.com/f94/sony-struggling-falling-demand-its-products-331425/

[zzyzzx]

No.

[gadgetguy]

Don't game. Don't care.

[deadrats]

i'm definitely interested if a) the consoles don't require an always on internet connection, b) the games were good and not designed from the ground up as co-op and c) if the consoles don't cost an arm and a leg.

[yoda313]

I just lost my post! I was writing in response to your post deadrats and I closed my browser by mistake - doh!

Anyway - yes an always on internet connection would suck.

Coop first games I don't think will be the norm. Look at Halo and Uncharted. Two strong single player franchises that stand on their own two feet very well without coop. Though Halo does have a coop mode but doesn't feel compromised on the single player mode.

As for price I wouldn't be surprised at a 500.00 launch point for both of them, sony and microsoft. Though I'm sure there will be different tiers with more or less harddrive space. Maybe Nintendo will have to slash the Wii U prices and that might make Sony and Microsoft have to lower the price a tad so that they can tempt Nintendo fan boys/girls away from them.

For me I'll wait for Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 to make the decision. As long as the Arkham Batman games and Assassins Creed games are still available on this generation I won't need to jump to the next one right away. I still have plenty to finish on this cycle. Plus I'm still going on Tales of Symphonia on the Gamecube that I bought in January. I also have two Tales games on the Ps2 I haven't started.

[tgpo]

Not interested in the least.

My N64 works just fine for the 1 hour of free time I have a year that I want to play a video game.

[Noahtuck]

Nope!!

Not for a long time!!!

Even though I still play old school games, SNES & ps2, original Xbox, 360, etc.
I still prefer to play most games on my PC as the graphics are far superior and I can hack games and do other things that you can't do on a 360.

Only when the rare game is released exclusively for the 360 will I play it on the 360.

I have a pretty beefy quad core with a nice vid card that I use to play games on my 46" 1080p LED upstairs when I don't want to play on my 6core with my 27" 1080p monitor downstairs.

I have yet to have the desire to own a PS3, although I must admit at least sony and M$ have been smart enough to stick with the same basic original controller, unlike Nintendo!!!

They are smart enough to NOT fix what is NOT broke!!
Unlike Nintendo with their, yet another, whacky crappy controller design!!
LOL!!!

But then, M$ likes to always add a 1000 things I don't care about, only Sheeple care about, and charge a ton of extra $$$ for the crap options!!!

I mean the latest dash for 360 looks like an ad fest for those whoring M$ money mongers!!!
If I wanted to see a bunch of ad's I would remove all my ad & pop up blockers & Antivirus from my PC's!!!
LOL!!!

[yoda313]

But then, M$ likes to always add a 1000 things I don't care about, only Sheeple care about, and charge a ton of extra $$$ for the crap options!!!

Still on about that are you? How often do you stay on the dashboard? I'm only on the dash long enough to get the stuff I need. i slip right by all the stuff.

I only pay attention for things like the deals or the recommendations for games and movies - something I actually don't mind on the xbox.

They are smart enough to NOT fix what is NOT broke!!
Unlike Nintendo with their, yet another, whacky crappy controller design!!
LOL!!!

No kidding.

Also Nintendo finally gives "real buttons and analog sticks" but makes it so awkward when they are glued on to a tablet.

The only interest I have in Nintendo is Tales of Symphonia on the Gamecube that I picked up used.

Depending on how the game ends I may be interested in the sequel which is Wii only if I remember correctly. I may actually go buy a used Wii for that and for some of the other Nintendo only jrpgs.

Yes I know I got rid of my Wii awhile ago but you can get them really inexpensive now.

Plus I have lots of games to finish before I go do anything like that. So it will be awhile.

[Noahtuck]

Still on about that are you? How often do you stay on the dashboard? I'm only on the dash long enough to get the stuff I need. i slip right by all the stuff.

LOL!!
Yep!! Because it is only going to get worse!!!
And you don't even want to get me going on the $H!T I have read M$ wants to implement on the next Xbox
Early things I read were obviously misconstrued but as things get clearer, if they try half of what I read it will have to kill them!!
But then again, never underestimate the mass of lemmings & sheople!!

Also Nintendo finally gives "real buttons and analog sticks" but makes it so awkward when they are glued on to a tablet.

Yeah, but you can keep playing the game like it's handheld if someone wants to kick you off the TV!!
LMAO!!!

I could not believe my eyes when I first saw a video of that huge controller with a screen!!
LOL!

[yoda313]

If anyone is interested I saw on the 360 dashboard that the first anouncement for the next xbox will be may 21st.

I hope for two things:

1 - no always on internet requirement

2 - 500.00 or lower entry price - anything more than that and I'll wait quite some time before jumping on.

Granted at 500.00 I don't think I'll buy the first wave of the next xbox. I'll probably wait for halo 5 to be on the next xbox only and not a 360 title and then I'll probably have to buy one. So long as halo 5 isn't a console launch title I'll wait a bit. But even if it is a launch title I can't see why they still wouldn't port halo 5 to the 360 for the installed fan base so they can rake in more money.

[SquirrelDip]

Nope. Not since Cinavia was added to the PS3... Son may be interested but I've introduced him to PC gaming which has got him interested for the time being.

[yoda313]

I've introduced him to PC gaming which has got him interested for the time being.

That could actually be more expensive in the long run. If he gets into graphics snobbery for high end gaming yearly upgrades could be a knockout blow. Thats one reason I like console gaming. No upgrades needed. Though I wouldn't mind if they had actually kept up with the memory upgrade module system the n64 had.

That would be nice for future upgrading but still being able to play the games. Oh well nice idea just didn't catch on.

[yoda313]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2013/05/06/neither-sony-playstation-4-nor-new...-used-games/2/

This article is about the new game systems not blocking used games. But there is an interesting paragraph in the middle of it talking about a possible package deal with a cable/sat provider to offer a low cost new xbox with a subscription. That is intriguing.

If I could get that kind of a deal with comcast and get a new xbox for 100.00 with a cable package I was already on that would be interesting.

I'm not one to switch from provider to provider just to save a buck or two. I'm happy with the service I'm getting and the speeds are decent. Even with a long term contract I wouldn't mind getting a subsidized new xbox out of the deal.

That is an idea I had not heard about yet. If true that could get me on board with a new xbox sooner that I thought..... The possibilities are interesting.

[TreeTops]

I really doubt that they will sell you the box. Cable and Sat providers love to rent those things so that you pay forever.

[Noahtuck]

I've introduced him to PC gaming which has got him interested for the time being.

That could actually be more expensive in the long run. If he gets into graphics snobbery for high end gaming yearly upgrades could be a knockout blow. Thats one reason I like console gaming. No upgrades needed.

Yep, no upgrades needed for consoles.....

But the games are "dumbed" down big time compared to the PC versions!!
In regards to graphics.

I have some of the same games for both the PC and 360 and the PC version on some is double the size, and some are the same size.
And the looking at the graphics for the PC version compared to the 360 version is like night and day!!!

My main PC which I use for gaming, blows away the 360 for graphics to this day, and it is almost 2 years old!!!
I can see a major difference on my 27" monitor and when I even hook up my quad core to my 46" led, the same games still blow away the 360 as far as graphics are concerned!!

Plus you can do so much more with the PC version compared to the 360 version.

And we won't even go into the mass advertising (SPAM) that M$ implements on their dashboard!!!
LOL!!!

Don't get me wrong, I like my 360 but when it comes down to it.......
It is just a mass marketing tool for the majority of sheople to pump $$$$ into and ends up costing more in incidentals in the long run than a good gaming PC.
People just don't see it as they are pumping $$$ into it over a long period of time as compared to a smaller investment upfront for a quality PC gaming rig.

And from my experience with my pretty old quad core, in today's market you can build a decent gaming rig with HDMI for cheap!!

[Joe The Dude]

I think that the main thing, that keeps people buying consoles, is exclusive titles.
It doesn't matter how much better a PC can display a game, if the games that a large number of people want, are only available on a particular console.

[yoda313]

Well actually thats not that true anymore. At least for the xbox games. They will eventually get a GAMES FOR WINDOWS pc release.

Granted I don't know if Halo 3 or 4 will ever get a pc release but 1 and 2 did. Gears of War is on the pc now isn't it?

But your point is true to a certain extent. However exclusivity is not what it used to be. So much is cross platform these days what matters more is the network for any online gaming and who you are playing with.

[Joe The Dude]

Well actually thats not that true anymore. At least for the xbox games. They will eventually get a GAMES FOR WINDOWS pc release.

Granted I don't know if Halo 3 or 4 will ever get a pc release but 1 and 2 did. Gears of War is on the pc now isn't it?

But your point is true to a certain extent. However exclusivity is not what it used to be. So much is cross platform these days what matters more is the network for any online gaming and who you are playing with.

You make a good point.

Also, those willing to wait a decade or so, could probably get an emulator in the future, so that can play most, if not all, PS3, Wii-U and Xbox 360 games on their PC.

Emulators have other advantages too, as some can improve the graphics of certain games, and there's the cheating and Save-States. There's already emulators for most pre-current-gen systems, that have high compatibility.

With any luck, (and probably a TON of lamp-rubbing) all our favorite games may eventually wind up on STEAM, or something similar. Not that I'm an advocate for Steam (or similar services), but it would, at the very least, prevent a lot of great, timeless games, from being locked into a single console, and falling into obscurity.

[yoda313]

Well its almost d-day - or should I say X-day

I hope they at least have a box to show off.

I also hope its numbered and not "infinity" as one of the reports said it was going to be called.

How do you make a console to follow up "infinity"? There isn't anything BEYOND infinity - all apologies to BUZZ LIGHTYEAR of course

[yoda313]

Well I guess no one really is interested since it was Tuesday and nobody posted.

I don't get the naming convention. Calling it ONE just seems ass-backwards to me. Infinity would be better. Or even somewhat lame 720 would be.

I think I know why they didn't call it 720. Probably thinking the people interested in hd stuff know 1080p is best so 720 would be less than that so it might seem 'less' powerful somehow. Ok a stretch maybe but a possible reason for ditching the 360 and up naming convention.

Anyways, it does seem like a capable unit though its HUGE if that is the final physical dimensions.

Also there is speculation on cnet that is 8gb ddr3 ram not the g-whatever 8gbs the ps4 will have. THey say the ps4 could potentially boast 50% better graphics if true about the ddr3 for the ONE.

However if there is separate graphical hardware for the ONE wouldn't that negate this supposed advantage the ps4 would have?

I am interested in actual GAMEPLAY footage not the cutscene stuff they showed. For that we'll have to wait for E3. And even then it probably won't show any true final gameplay since they don't have any release dates yet for the Xbox One.

We shall see as more official details of both systems come out.

One price rumor mentioned on cnet was either 500.00 or 300 with a 2 year Xbox Live subscription. I'd get the 300.00 since I already do xbox live now. That would be a fair price for a brand new console.

I wonder if it will be able to read ntfs harddrives and play mkv files? It has a bluray drive now and most new bluray players will do ntfs and mkv h264 files. I wonder if they will finally allow that?

We shall see.

[yoda313]

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57586096-221/how-xbox-one-opens-the-door-for-the-next-apple-tv/


Sorry need to bump this to add this article from cnet.

They always see a need to bring apple into every discussion.

It seems like they forget a major major component for any XBOX is GAMING!!!!!!!

Its about HALO and GEARS OF WAR as much it is about streaming movies and music.

I'm sorry but no game on the apple app network will compete with a true console title. Not even that infinity blades whatever ios game. Sure it can look really good and come near a console title. But no app centric title will ever come close to some 10-20 hour action shooter or heaven forbid a 60+ hour rpg with console level graphics and story depth.

At least the commenters weren't all in agreement.

Sorry just had to mention this......

[yoda313]

Well the ps4 is out now - any buyers here?

The xbox one is next week - any takers yet?

I'll be waiting for next year for halo 5 before I get an xbox one. And uncharted 4 will be my reason to get a ps4 but that's probably off until 2015.

[tgpo]

Nope. Didn't even know it had been released.

[yoda313]

I was surprised by the cnet review of the ps4 that it can't do mp3's or audio cds out of the box. It can't even do jpegs from what I remember of the article.

Talk about stripping it down to the basics. But it did have a point from the sony reps that they may add that functionality in the future.

It seems the xbox one has more file playback ability than the ps4 at launch. THough you need a day one update to get the most use out of it. NOt sure what that entails and what isn't active if you don't do the update.

THough not too much of a surprise. Even the Wii U needed a big updated on launch date to get everything where it was supposed to be.

I did try out the ps4 a little at bestbuy yesterday. Unfortunately Fifa was the only big title that I recognized on the demo rig. I am not a soccer fan so I tried some platformer.

They were right on that game at least - the graphics jump isn't that noticeable compared to the sd-hd jump from the ps2/xbox original to the ps3/xbox360 jump. But that might not be entirely fair as this might have been a psn store game and not a triple a title as I don't even remember the name it was so nondescript.

It was basically a ratchet and clank type platformer. Jumping and shooting things and kind of cartoony.

The controller for the ps4 seemed ok. though I don't think it's the greatest ever like they seemed to tought in the cnet review. Though it might be the best playstation controller to date (first party that is, since i haven't used any third party controllers I don't know what I'm missing).

One thing though the dimensions seemed slight different than the ps3 controller. Don't know if its slightly larger or slightly smaller, it just seemed a touch different.

Oh and the reviews said neither console does bluray 3d out of the box. I can't remember if either have 3d gaming support out of the box, I think the xbox one does have 3d gaming support right now but not 3d bluray movies.

As I mentioned it will be mid to late 2014 before I seriously consider getting either. It will probably be an xbox one for halo 5 as I mentioned. But also the xbox one does seem to be a much more fleshed out media hub then the ps4 is. Especially with the hdmi in feature.

Edit - I also don't know why every article online seems to make it out that there has to be a winner in this race. And that if one can't do something the other can than it's a piece of garbage.

Fan boy/girl rhetoric at it's worst in that case.

Hardcore gamers will eventually own both as I'm sure a bunch do now that the "current" gen cycle has reached such an affordable level (especially if you get a used console).

I think it will be like the ps3/xbox 360 are right now. It will be essentially neck and neck and both will basically do the same thing the other can do. It will just be a preference, not some gee whiz tech deal that is incapable of being done on one console versus another.