How to remove Cinavia protection?

[fits79]

YOU ARE WRONG....

As i see at the net there is ANY bluray movie even at full rip without any issues so....

[jagabo]

No, you are wrong. Many movies don't have Cinavia watermarks. Those rips will play on any player. Titles with Cinavia will not play off burned Blu-ray discs on players that detect Cinavia. Some players with Cinavia detection don't detect Cinavia when playing MKV or MP4 files. That loophole will probably be closed shortly. And, of course, there are many non licensed players that don't detect Cinavia (like the Western Digital WDTV).

As of yet, nobody has come forward with a method of removing Cinavia watermarks without destroying the audio quality.

[fits79]

Ok tell moe ONE or more movies that it has cinavia to rent it and try that.

[jagabo]

I already told you how to find lists of Blu-ray titles with Cinavia. Beware, some titles are only have Cinavia in some regions.

[jman98]

As jagabo points out, Cinavia is almost never used outside of North America. ftis79 is unlikely to find any European movies that use it, but he can do the research as there may be a very small number that use it. Anything put out by Sony Pictures is a good candidate to have it. And for what it's worth, I've never personally seen a report of Cinavia used on any non-English soundtrack. Even the discs that use it will only use it on the English soundtrack.

[fits79]

Like THIS list?

So if i rent the "Colombiana" or "The Adventures of Tintin" at region2(greece) or any other of that list movies it has cinavia protection correct?

And how i know if the ripped bd-iso files it has the cinavia protection or if it has removed by the program i was rip the movie?

And there isn't any bluray movie that i can't find at the internet that it was compeltely free of protection even from cinavia.
So how these people it upload that movies how it completely remove the cinavia and all other protections that bluray movies has?????

And i mean movies from the above list and many more.

So i believe this is a major PROOF you have wrong to say there isn't way to completely remove cinavia or any other protection.

[jagabo]

Like THIS list?

So if i rent the "Colombiana" or "The Adventures of Tintin" at region2(greece) or any other of that list movies it has cinavia protection correct?

I can't vouch for the accuracy of any list.

And how i know if the ripped bd-iso files it has the cinavia protection or if it has removed by the program i was rip the movie?

Burn your rip to a BD-R and play it on a player with Cinavia detection. After about 20 minutes you will get a message and/or the audio/video will stop playing.

[fits79]

I don't have bluray recorder only bluray rom and media player that support bd-iso files.

So if i try into the media player(Like med600x3d) to play the ripped bd-iso file and plays normal more than 20 minutes it means it was removed the cinavia protection?

[Vidd]

I don't have bluray recorder only bluray rom and media player that support bd-iso files.

So if i try into the media player(Like med600x3d) to play the ripped bd-iso file and plays normal more than 20 minutes it means it was removed the cinavia protection?

I don't think you fully understand how Cinavia works. Media players do not have Cinavia protection and will not display the error even if the movie has Cinavia. That does not mean the Cinavia was removed.

[usually_quiet]

I don't have bluray recorder only bluray rom and media player that support bd-iso files.

So if i try into the media player(Like med600x3d) to play the ripped bd-iso file and plays normal more than 20 minutes it means it was removed the cinavia protection?

Hardware media players are not required to look for Cinavia. Only actual licensed Blu-Ray players with a built-in optical drive must look for Cinavia.

Starting in 2012, Blu-Ray technology licensing required licensed software players to look for Cinavia too. So, recent versions of licensed software players (from Corel, ArcSoft, and Cyberlink) recognize Cinavia. Older versions of their software do not look for it.

Unlicensed software players (VLC, MPCHC, Pot Player) do not look for Cinavia. They are not required to look for Cinavia because they are unlicensed.

[fits79]

I DON'T care about bluray players.

This moment i care ONLY about media players like mede8er med600x3d.
Does this media player support bd-iso files even it has sinavia protection?

[jagabo]

This moment i care ONLY about media players like mede8er med600x3d.
Does this media player support bd-iso files even it has sinavia protection?

If it doesn't play original Blu-ray discs it won't need or have an AACS license -- so it will ignore Cinavia.

[fits79]

So the problems for movies that has cinavia protection is ONLY for bluray players that play original bluray discs?

I know that it doesn't play bluray discs.
It play only FILES that i have in external hard disk like bd-iso files.

So if i rip one movie it has cinavia protection with anydvd does it play the ripped bd-iso file into the medi8er med600x3d?

[usually_quiet]

I DON'T care about bluray players.

This moment i care ONLY about media players like mede8er med600x3d.
Does this media player support bd-iso files even it has sinavia protection?

Everyone, including me, who answered your posts has told you that hardware media players do not recognize Cinavia, and only Blu-Ray players will look for it. Obviously everyone here who replied to you has wasted their time.

[fits79]

No one it tell me that.

Everyone until now it tallied me that cinavia protection can't removed from the movie and i can't play a ripped movie with that protection anywhere so.....

[jman98]

If his join date was Nov 2013 instead of Aug 2008, I'd start to wonder if fits79 was actually gamemaniaco in disguise.

[jagabo]

No one it tell me that.

You were told several times.

[Noahtuck]

No one it tell me that.

You were told several times.

Since his initial post on the previous page, I counted 3 or 4 times it was stated very clearly

[OllieTSB]

If I couldn't find any disks with Cinavia, I DO wonder why I'd try! Honestly, this has started to have that fungal odor running thru it.

There is not a removal for Cinavia at this time.

Jagabo said it most succinctly: "no no no no no..."

There are (1) attempts to trick it, and (2) many players refuse to detect it. But "not detecting it" is NOT "removing it".

It's like painted lines on a street - they are lane dividers, but driving over them doesn't remove them.

[Cienoway]

The Cinavia is officially broken, with audio quality virtually intact.

See posts at myce.
http://club.myce.com/f94/how-disable-cinavia-332950/index11.html

[MindController]

Yeah not so much. I see theories of implementation throughout the thread. I see that you have "bypassed" cinavia, but you still haven't revealed the exact method or released it. So that's like saying "hey guys this new pill will cure all cancer, but i can't tell you the ingredients or how to specifically make it".

[fritzi93]

"Virtually intact." Virtually. That's wide open to varying interpretation, isn't it?

Aye, there's the rub. Call me skeptical.

[El Heggunte]

The Cinavia is officially broken, with audio quality virtually intact.

See posts at myce.
http://club.myce.com/f94/how-disable-cinavia-332950/index11.html

OK, but why don't you offer some multichannel WAVs or FLACs, instead of MP3s

[Cienoway]

The Cinavia is officially broken, with audio quality virtually intact.

See posts at myce.
http://club.myce.com/f94/how-disable-cinavia-332950/index11.html

OK, but why don't you offer some multichannel WAVs or FLACs, instead of MP3s

To save file size. Cinavia is pretty detectable even using the lousiest compression codec. These MP3 files is enough to demonstrate that Cinavia is effectively removed.


People interested to see them can privately message me for the link to download the two MP3 files to see for yourself. Both files contain the same audio, but the original one with Cinavia detected and the new one without.

[Cienoway]

Yeah not so much. I see theories of implementation throughout the thread. I see that you have "bypassed" cinavia, but you still haven't revealed the exact method or released it. So that's like saying "hey guys this new pill will cure all cancer, but i can't tell you the ingredients or how to specifically make it".

Did I say "bypass Cinavia". It is not bypassed, the Cinavia signal itself is removed. The audio file no longer contains any Cinavia signal detectable by any Cinavia capable players. The break is a fundamental break, not relying on any trade secret of Verance, and is effective against future generations of audio watermark technology. In another word this fundamentally effective processing method pronounces the end of the audio watermark industry for good.

[Seeker47]

Yeah not so much. I see theories of implementation throughout the thread. I see that you have "bypassed" cinavia, but you still haven't revealed the exact method or released it. So that's like saying "hey guys this new pill will cure all cancer, but i can't tell you the ingredients or how to specifically make it".

Did I say "bypass Cinavia". It is not bypassed, the Cinavia signal itself is removed. The audio file no longer contains any Cinavia signal detectable by any Cinavia capable players. The break is a fundamental break, not relying on any trade secret of Verance, and is effective against future generations of audio watermark technology. In another word this fundamentally effective processing method pronounces the end of the audio watermark industry for good.

If that was true, shouldn't we expect to see AnyDVD and DVDFab implementing this in their products, and laying claim to having incorporated this tech ? (Unless it remains totally proprietary to someone else, who is unwilling to work with them ?) I don't know about SlySoft, but Fab's being in China effectively puts it out of reach of legal action from Big Content, should they attempt to retaliate.

Your claims should be proved -- or not -- in the marketplace, before too long.

[jagabo]

In another word this fundamentally effective processing method pronounces the end of the audio watermark industry for good.

Even if you have successfully "remove" Cinavia (and I don't believe you have since you've provided no evidence) that will not put an end to Cinavia. CSS and AACS have been completely cracked yet virtually every disc still uses them. The master keys and algorithm for HDCP have been leaked, so anyone can generate HDCP client keys and decrypt HDCP protected content now, but HDCP is still required on almost all hardware. Hollywood never gives up on protection technologies once implemented.

[anon1000]

He posted a sample clip a few days ago dominator took it down....the audio quality as expected was terrible, like an old crackled LP & an warped out degraded 8 track ...no better then other solutions I have seen. So much for a person who worked for years at the company like Verance. These companies will 1up you any day of the week. Another troll wanting our attention.

[MindController]

Yeah not so much. I see theories of implementation throughout the thread. I see that you have "bypassed" cinavia, but you still haven't revealed the exact method or released it. So that's like saying "hey guys this new pill will cure all cancer, but i can't tell you the ingredients or how to specifically make it".

Did I say "bypass Cinavia". It is not bypassed, the Cinavia signal itself is removed. The audio file no longer contains any Cinavia signal detectable by any Cinavia capable players. The break is a fundamental break, not relying on any trade secret of Verance, and is effective against future generations of audio watermark technology. In another word this fundamentally effective processing method pronounces the end of the audio watermark industry for good.

And the removal process ruined the audio. Quite a major accomplishment. So what's the method? Give us the exact steps. And don't be vague about it.

[netmask56]

Why does this thread remind me so much of Hieronymus Carl Friedrich von Münchhausen