Is size of MKV important on Bluray player from USB?

[Mannix]

My BD350 will usually play MKV from the USB and show subs. Now I have one that is 1.3GB and it will nt even play movielet alone show subs. Does size of the file matter, most are around 800MB

[poisondeathray]

If the usb drive is fat32 formatted, the size limitation is 4GB

In your case, there are other reasons for not playing (probably encoding settings, you can use mediainfo view=> text for more information)

[Mannix]

Won't play

General
Unique ID : 2430121145233377XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXF3D568AB6C)
Complete name : C:\Users\XXXXXXX\Videos\nameoffilm\nameoffilm.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 1h 31mn
Overall bit rate : 2 135 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-06-12 08:02:25
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.6.0 ('Still Crazy After All These Years') ??? Mar 10 2011 02:50:32
Writing library : libebml v1.2.0 + libmatroska v1.1.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 31mn
Bit rate : 1 390 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 532 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.085
Stream size : 878 MiB (63%)
Writing library : x264 core 114 r1924 08d04a4
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1390 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Header stripping
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 1h 31mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 755 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 495 MiB (35%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

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Will play

General
Unique ID : 1736473130xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (0x82A34188C73A1xxxxxxxxxxxxxB1C)
Complete name : C:\Users\XXXXXXX\Videos\nameoffilm\nameoffilm.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 897 MiB
Duration : 2h 17mn
Overall bit rate : 910 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-05-11 09:44:55
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.0.0 ('The Stars were mine') built on Jun 6 2010 16:18:42
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 17mn
Nominal bit rate : 873 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 692 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.85:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.039
Title : ==== 300mbunited.me | rpnet.biz ====
Writing library : x264 core 120 r2120 0c7dab9
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=873 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 2h 17mn
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Title : ==== 300mbunited.me | rpnet.biz ====
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : ==== 300mbunited.me | rpnet.biz ====
Default : Yes
Forced : No

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If anyone can tell why one will play and other won't would appreciate

[poisondeathray]

Muxing mode : Header stripping

header stripping.

Remux with the newest mkvtoolnix , or disable header compression removal in the options then remux

[Mannix]

Muxing mode : Header stripping

header stripping.

Remux with the newest mkvtoolnix , or disable header compression removal in the options then remux

Many thanks What is header stripping?

or disable header compression removal in the options

in the options where

[poisondeathray]

It causes compatibility issues with hardware players. Use search if you want more info, it's been discussed many times

Yes in the options, file=>options=> disable header removal compression by default. I think in the newest versions v6 or newer it's off by default (there is no option available, because it's been removed), so you can just remux it without fiddling with the options

[jman98]

Remux with the newest mkvtoolnix , or disable header compression removal in the options then remux

It's an option that creates barely smaller files by removing header information. The people who designed it are morons who think that nobody will ever play files on anything but a PC because such files play fine there. It's intended to be used by financially challenged people who buy one large disk drive to hold ALL their movies and they never intend to buy another drive, so saving anything in space used, even a 1% smaller file, might be meaningful to them. I'm not exaggerating about this.

We have another thread going on where one of our members pointed out that until recently a popular MKV muxing program turned this option on by default and made you have to work to turn it off. It caused so many problems that they no longer offer it as an option at all and it's turned off on recent releases. I remain amazed that the developers never considered that this might be a bad idea to make it on by default, but that's what happened.

[Mannix]

It causes compatibility issues with hardware players. Use search if you want more info, it's been discussed many times

Yes in the options, file=>options=> disable header removal compression by default. I think in the newest versions v6 or newer it's off by default (there is no option available, because it's been removed), so you can just remux it without fiddling with the options

yes i was reading about that

Thanks for your help

[Mannix]

Remux with the newest mkvtoolnix , or disable header compression removal in the options then remux

It's an option that creates barely smaller files by removing header information. The people who designed it are morons who think that nobody will ever play files on anything but a PC because such files play fine there. It's intended to be used by financially challenged people who buy one large disk drive to hold ALL their movies and they never intend to buy another drive, so saving anything in space used, even a 1% smaller file, might be meaningful to them. I'm not exaggerating about this.

We have another thread going on where one of our members pointed out that until recently a popular MKV muxing program turned this option on by default and made you have to work to turn it off. It caused so many problems that they no longer offer it as an option at all and it's turned off on recent releases. I remain amazed that the developers never considered that this might be a bad idea to make it on by default, but that's what happened.

I did think it was stupid to have one little thing removed make such a hassle

Thanks for your help with this

[jagabo]

even a 1% smaller file, might be meaningful to them. I'm not exaggerating about this.

Yes you are! LOL. Savings from header removal compression are usually in the 0.1 percent range. Not a good tradeoff considering how many devices can't handle it.

[Ai Haibara]

It's supposedly part of the MKV spec (I never looked at it, so I wouldn't know), so Moritz (mkvtoolnix's author) was hell-bent upon enforcing it, no matter if it broke hardware player/etc. support. He was of the opinion that it'd force player manufacturers to update their players/firmware to support the 'proper' MKV spec.

...so, other than changing the option so that it wasn't on by default, after a while, he's recently changed his position on it?

[Mannix]

Remuxed. Works. Thanks guys

[Mannix]

Can someone remind me please where do i look in media info to see if the header has been stripped? Thanks

[aedipuss]

if it's not listed in the mediainfo text report it wasnt' used.

[Mannix]

if it's not listed in the mediainfo text report it wasnt' used.

thanks i just realised that. How do you copy all from the tree view of media info, no right context copy/select etc?

[jagabo]

How do you copy all from the tree view of media info, no right context copy/select etc?

mark with mouse, Ctrl+C

or

mark with mouse, right click mouse, select Copy.

[Mannix]

How do you copy all from the tree view of media info, no right context copy/select etc?

mark with mouse, Ctrl+C

or

mark with mouse, right click mouse, select Copy.

on the tree view it won't mark. i think it is tree view it is blank where it says what view, third one down

[aedipuss]

use text view. position mouse at beginning, hold down left mouse button, move to end, right click copy.

[jagabo]

on the tree view it won't mark.

Oh, sorry. Missed the "tree view" reference. I normally use text view.

[Mannix]

on the tree view it won't mark.

Oh, sorry. Missed the "tree view" reference. I normally use text view.

which one down is text view OK got it. I am getting a fresh copy of media info

[videobruger]

VHow do you copy all from the tree view of media info, no right context copy/select etc?

Or use Alt+E to export

[Mannix]

Can anyone tell why this will not show subs on my dvd player. the movie plays ok no subs

General
Unique ID : 174922801278454699388710244xxxx89758510 (0x8398E7F5C3DBB0D386ECC765C7B66xxx)
Complete name : C:\Users\mannix\movie\movie.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 698 MiB
Duration : 1h 40mn
Overall bit rate : 968 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-21 17:42:55
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.0.0 ('The Stars were mine') built on Jun 6 2010 16:18:42
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 40mn
Nominal bit rate : 931 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.056
Title : ==== 300mbunited.me | rpnet.biz ====
Writing library : x264 core 120 r2120 0c7dab9
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=931 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 40mn
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Title : ==== 300mbunited.me | rpnet.biz ====
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : ==== 300mbunited.me | rpnet.biz ====
Default : Yes
Forced : No

[jagabo]

Does your DVD player support subs multiplexed into the file? Many don't. You'll probably have to extract them to an SRT file.

I find it hard to believe your DVD player supports HD AVC video. You must have a Blu-ray player.

[Mannix]

Does your DVD player support subs multiplexed into the file? Many don't. You'll probably have to extract them to an SRT file.

I find it hard to believe your DVD player supports HD AVC video. You must have a Blu-ray player.

Yes i have a blue ray player LG BD350. I am not sure about subs multiplexed into the file?
How would I extract the subs to srt

[jman98]

If I remember its name correctly, the program MKVExtractGUI2 that comes with MKVToolnix can extract multiplexed subs from an MKV file.

[Mannix]

If I remember its name correctly, the program MKVExtractGUI2 that comes with MKVToolnix can extract multiplexed subs from an MKV file.

thanks i will try that, much appreciated. Yes worked and I extracted the srt but still no subs on the bluray thru TV