Potplayer not using LavSplitter for Dreambox HTTP TS stream

[eliw22]

I stream video from my Dreambox.. For HD channels its an mpeg TS stream with H264 and DD

- VLC plays this ok (i hate VLC tho)
- KMPlayer struggles with the M3U tags but plays it eventually and very well (just crashes everytime when exiting) - this is with Lav splitter - Lav audio and Lav Video
- MPC HC plays this without a hitch again with lav splitter and lav audio and video - no problems at all with this (but again I dont really like mpchc)

Potplayer Struggles big time ... first of all it hates the tag in the stream file so I have to strip the http address and feed it manually.
Then it refuses to use Lav splitter ... it uses the internal mpeg tp/ts source splitter which results in unwatchable freezes and pops. I tried it with both builtin decoders or lav decoders but both result in freezes and non stop buffering .. the cause is the splitter.

No matter what I tried (and I am a veteran of KMPlayer) it simply will not use the Lav splitter ... for MkVs I have absolutely no problems with potplayer, I can chose from either Lav or haali splitters and they get used without any problems and video is very smooth (wtih reclock and madvr) ... but with the TS streams from the dreambox I am stumped.

I was thinking about completely removing the builtin splitter but have not yet done it.

Can someone suggest something pls - as the main thing I do is use my players to stream from the Dreambox

If you wondered this is what the m3u file has in it:
#EXTM3U
#EXTVLCOPT--http-reconnect=true
#EXTVLCOPT program=3859
http://192.168.0.27:8001/1:0:19:F13:7ED:2:11A0000:0:0:0:

and again VLC, MPC HC and KMP have no problems with the tag or the files .. only pot player need to be told to play the URL direct http://192.168.0.27:8001/1:0:19:F13:7ED:2:11A0000:0:0:0:

[El Heggunte]

Here is what is working for me:

in Preferences -> Filter Control -> Source/Splitter, choose LAV Splitter not only for MPEG-2 TS, but also for MPEG-2 PS and MPEG-1.

FWIW, I don't use the full install of PotPlayer, but just the PotPlayerMini.exe, the PotPlayer.dll plus some folders,
therefore YMMV.

[eliw22]

I actually have LAV splitter selected for everything (same for lav video and lav audio decoding).

Can you please tell me where I can obtain the mini player from ?

[El Heggunte]

I actually have LAV splitter selected for everything (same for video and audio decoding).

Can you please tell me where I can obtain the mini player from ?

Just open the installer .EXE file with 7-zip , and extract only what's strictly necessary.

01/20/2013  07:23    <DIR>          .
01/20/2013  07:23    <DIR>          ..
01/20/2013  06:20    <DIR>          Capture
07/28/2011  10:55               453 CmdLine.txt
01/20/2013  06:17    <DIR>          Html
01/20/2013  06:20    <DIR>          Log
01/21/2013  23:55    <DIR>          Logos
01/20/2013  06:34    <DIR>          Playlist
01/15/2013  02:23        13,375,344 PotPlayer.dll
11/24/2012  13:39           184,024 PotPlayerMini.exe
01/22/2013  14:23            26,292 PotPlayerMini.ini
01/20/2013  06:17    <DIR>          PxShader
01/21/2013  21:37    <DIR>          Skins
01/20/2013  06:20    <DIR>          Urllist
               4 File(s)     13,586,113 bytes

[eliw22]

Hi thanks again for the reply.
And you are positive you can see LAV splitter active with an HD TS stream from the Dreambox ?
How do you load the feed - do you use just the URL and open it, or you found a method to open it directly from openwebif ?
Regards
E

[eliw22]

No matter what I try Potplayer or potplayermini the player will use internal splitter for the dreambox TS stream - I can't use the lav splitter... this is complete tosh...

I can use lav splitter with any other player (kmp mpc and probably others) ... can't understand why this potplayer wont...

Can anyone recommend a forum with more potplayer expertise ?

[Budman1]

Ok, this is going to be complicated but I'll try to make it as clear as I can. I have Potplayer, Klite(with FFDshow and LAV). You are right in the fact that if you have it set up right and you select the LAV splitter AND the LAV video codec it will not change IF the Windows default codec is set to some other choice.

On mine, I had to disable MPEG2 in FFDshow Video codecs then go to Windows codec Tweak tool and set MPEG2 as one of the formats decoded by LAV. I've included some of the images I used to do it but it will in fact change to LAV codec. The easiest way to check is play your file in Windows Media Player and it should say LAV if you right click and select properties while it is playing.

Both the above should say LAV. If they do then then it should show LAV when you hit TAB (default propertes key) while potplayer is playing.

Basically, if Windows media player says LAV then Windows default is LAV and Potplayer will accept LAV and play with LAV.
I verified this on mine and you'll notice I had MPEG2 set with FFdshow because I like thumbnails and originally I couldn't get thumbs with Potplayer FFMpeg decoder so I altered mine.

[eliw22]

I don't have problems using the LAV video Decoder (at all) ... it's the splitter that is not being used.
And my issue is not with a file like file.ts .. it is with a URL stream in the form of say:

http://192.168.0.27:8001/1:0:19:11A00:0:0:0:

If I use a .ts file I can use the LAV splitter .. but if the TS stream is through an http stream then potplayer seems hell bent on using its internal mpeg2 ts/ps built in splitter which can't handle the stream properly - if only I can disable that splitter but there is absolutely nothing I found that can do it.

In mpc-hc I do not have this problem at all as I can get the player to use LAV splitter and the stream plays properly.

[El Heggunte]

If I use a .ts file I can use the LAV splitter .. but if the TS stream is through an http stream then potplayer seems hell bent on using its internal mpeg2 ts/ps built in splitter which can't handle the stream properly

Hmmm, just a wild guess, but MAYBE what confuses PotPlayer is the way that the .ts file is being served via HTTP

I don't have a DreamBox, and to be honest I didn't even know that it existed , BUT
just for testing purposes, I've set up and run a "normal" HTTP server on my PC, and voilà,
PotPlayer did use LAV Splitter for dealing with the pesky transport stream thorugh an HTTP connection.

[Budman1]

This method worked on my computer to get a stream to play with the Lav Codec. First set Mpeg1 to Lav splitter (either Lav or LavSource, both worked) IO also have Mpeg-TS and Mpeg-PS set to Lav :


Right Clicking on Potplayer, I chose Open -> Open URL and posted the stream link into it.:

When I hit enter, I see "Playing..." in Potplayer and I hit tab to display properties of the video. A new window opened and first showed HTTP Async. I closed and reopened until it showed Lav Splitter being used.

When enough file had been downloaded, the video began to stream. I hit tab again to show that Lav is being used there also.

This was only a demo to show that it can be done to get the splitter to decode an incoming TS stream.

[El Heggunte]

Budman1, thanks for testing and confirming.

This was only a demo to show that it can be done to get the splitter to decode an incoming TS stream.

Notwithstanding, we still don't know where the trouble actually is. I mean, either the http server of the Dreambox is not "standard-compliant" (and software players like MPC-HC can deal with that anyway), or there is no problem in the Dreambox http server, but PotPlayer is not so versatile as it should be.

[sheppaul]

It's simple.

Potplayer forces the filter for some reason in case of http streaming. And it has a bug.

In any case, the best way to solve the problem is to contact to the author directly.