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  1. Hi,

    I'm new to video conversion, and now I'm more than interested to convert my current DVD into MKV file. I'm a fan of animation/animes and I want to "remasterize"(For those who know) "Once Upon A Forest" and "The moomins". I'll explain what I'm trying to do, and then I'm goig to explain what I've tried.

    I have an MKV file made with MakeMKV, it have all audio tracks and subtitles.
    The video format is MPEG-2 and the audio format is AC3. 720x480

    I need to adjust saturation and intensity and apply a decomb filter (I heard it's better than de-interlacing).


    I have extracted all tracks with MKVExtractGUI 2.2.2.9 (Yup, I'm on Win8x64) including subs and a xml file containing chapters informations.

    I've downloaded VidCodec, but unfortunatly, I cannot adjust saturation and intensity. (If you have any ideas because I LOOOVE the GUI).
    So I downloaded HandBrake, but still no saturation/intensity filter available. But it recommend to apply "anamorphic Loose" to change the resolution to 865x480, and I'm ok with that because the image is... wierd and with this resolution it's great!

    And now I'm using VirtualDub-MPEG 1.6.19, I've found a plugin to apply saturation filter and everything, but I don't know how exactly to change the resolution to what HandBrake suggest me. When I apply the resize filter, the image is blurry. And I don't know how to save in h264.

    And I don't know if it is possible to depixelate videos, my collections of The Moomins is pixelated...

    It seems that I walked 1000 miles to go on the other side of the street... any help will be appreciate.

    Normally I use AVS Video Converter for my basic needs, but it doesn't support advanced options for h264.

    Sorry, I speak french and it's my first time on that kind of forum, so maybe I'm unclear, don't hesitate to ask questions.

    Thanks guys and girls
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    Welcome.

    There are many ways to convert/encode for your final output, but....without a sample of a few seconds of your original, unprocessed source video it would be impossible to advise about image correction. If you need help in cutting and supplying a sample, just ask here. Also, you should not be making extensive image corrections using compressed formats.
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  3. Thanks Sanlyn for your answer.

    I already busted my monthly upload limit. But if it is required... I used mkvmerge GUI to cut into 30 seconds pieces, I'm going to upload 2 or 3 pieces of different scenes and post the link.

    But just to know, is there any plugin to add those kid of filter to VidCodec or HandBrake? Or do you know any better software than VirtualDub?
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  4. Forget MKV. Upload a 10 second piece from the original DVD. Open a VOB in DGIndex, use the [ and ] buttons to isolate a short section with steady movement, go File->Save Project and Demux Video, and upload the resulting M2V either here or to a good file-sharing site such as MediaFire or SendSpace.

    You may be able to open the MKV in DGindex to extract the M2V, but I'm not real sure.
    Or do you know any better software than VirtualDub?
    AviSynth, although for simple stuff such as you've mentioned, VDub has filters for those. I have no idea what you mean by 'pixelated', though.
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    I'd say that VHS almost always needs some level of cleanup. Depends on what you're doing in VirtualDub. Serious problems and frame structure work is best done in Avisynth. Much depends on how much processing your source requires. Your statement:
    I need to adjust saturation and intensity and apply a decomb filter (I heard it's better than de-interlacing).
    isn't correct. The source of the combing has to be examined. Standard DVD and HD output have certain luma and chroma requirements, so just a general fix for "intensity and saturation" should conform to those specs for proper rendering and playback; some of that work might even require YUV work in Avisynth, other problems might best be accomplished in RGB with VirtualDub. None of those processes should be run with compressed MPEG or h264, as there is considerable quality loss and damage from doing so.

    In any case, can't say without a look at what you're actually starting with. A sample clip with some horizontal or vertical movement would be best.

    If your source is DVD/MPEG2, you can use the free DGIndex (a utility in the free DGMPGDec) . 10 to 12 seconds of MPEG2 normally amounts to about about 10MB or so, well within the 100MB upload max in this forum. Look below the "Reply" window in any thread and click the "Upload files/Manage attachments" button to get a window with a list of formats and file limits.
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  6. Here's the file: http://files.videohelp.com/u/218677/test-002.mkv.demuxed.m2v

    Thanks for your help, but it would be great if I can learn something too :P because you'll not be always around hehe

    I just want more colors since its fade
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  7. It's a well made DVD and needs neither 'decombing' (if you use Force Film in DGIndex or otherwise remove the pulldown) nor 'deinterlacing'. It was encoded as progressive 23.976fps with pulldown as is proper. It doesn't look to me that it needs any saturating or anything else.
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  8. Thanks for taking a look at it... It's strange, because on my side it is interlaced...
    And I would like to put vibrant colors because it is kind of dark, furthermore, I have 2 other complete animation collections that is the same way (the smurfs and the moomins, and soon card captor Sakura... , and I also have Dora (for my nephew) that is in bad shape (like TV rip, sort of).

    Any way to adjust colors in VidCoder or similar software that support h264 (or x264...) ?
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    Thanks for the sample. Manono's right, the video seems in good shape. There's a few white specks and a smidgeon of chroma noise (these show up more obviously on a computer than on TV). The black levels are right on, exactly where they're supposed to be, colors look clean and the mid grays are exactly right (which means there's no discernible color cast). I don't see any "combing", either. As per manono, the video is 23.97fps progressive with 3:2 pulldown for 29.97 fps playback (so the master source is probably film, not Digital). Any combing you see is the 2-out-of-5 pulldown frames; this does not display on TV (unless you have a really crummy TV that can't handle 3:2 pulldown at all) and it doesn't show up in play with VLC or PowerDVD with deinterlace enabled. It will obviously show up in PC editors -- but for purposes of editing and analysis it's supposed to.

    An increase in saturation will give this sample an unnatural, plastic look. Increasing "contrast" (the way most people mean it) will likely crush some blacks and make them look rather gritty. Sharpening would have similar effects. Go to a movie theater sometime and pay special attention to the line work; in film, it's nowhere near as oversharpned as frequentrly seen on TV nor glassy as seen on UTube. While those effects might look "awesome" to the uninitiated, you'll find that pro's would lean toward a less "processed" look.

    That's a matter of taste, I know. But for any cleaning, spiffing, etc., you'd have to decode this to lossless AVI using huffyuv or Lagarith, work in YV12 with Avisynth filters, use the TFM/Telecide IVTC routine, do some processing, then re-encode with 3:2 pulldown. The re-encode will cost in terms of PQ, and IMHO with this sample you'd lose more than you'd gain.

    But there are always more questions, so fire away.
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  10. Thanks for your fast answer sanlyn. Be careful, I'm starting to like you hehe...
    Yes there's always questions, lol.

    When you say 3:2 pulldown, it's the "square image" on DVD ,and the player adjust the image to pull it down, right?
    I've read somewhere that it's better to "stretch" horizontally instead of pulling down vertically is that true?

    With VidCoder (yeah, again), selecting a RF of 12 (default 20) and Animation preset give a pretty good result.
    I love the white specks and the colors, and I'm going to keep it that way... (because I'm a fan of old things) but my entourage prefer brighter color and I agree with you, it looks like plastic .

    When I decode it (lossless), do I take the extracted mpeg file or the original mkv file?
    I don't know how to work with Avisynth and YV12 doesn't sound familiar. Do you know any good tutorial? Or can you explain it to me please (if you have time)
    Can I re-encode it using Avisynth with the 3:2 pulldown?
    And (last question) for the plastic version, is there any way to limit the white specks and preserving a minimum of quality ?

    Thanks again for your great help sanlyn.
    Have a nice evening, or morning...
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    When you say 3:2 pulldown, it's the "square image" on DVD ,and the player adjust the image to pull it down, right?
    No. It's how you go from progressive 23.976fps film to interlaced 29.97fps as required for NTSC television systems. Look it up. Never mind, read these:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/pulldown-3.asp

    http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/video2_2.htm

    If you're seeing interlacing you're seeing the video with the pulldown. If you can pause it and then advance a frame at a time you'll see the tell-tale 3 progressive frames and 2 interlaced frames in every 5-frame cycle.
    When I decode it (lossless), do I take the extracted mpeg file or the original mkv file?
    I thought your source was the DVD. The VOBs are the original.
    Can I re-encode it using Avisynth with the 3:2 pulldown?
    You don't want the pulldown. You want to get it back to its 23.976fps origins. The pulldown is only applied for DVD. For MKV you don't need it, and you don't even have to reencode it, as far as I know, if your only intent is to switch to the MKV container. If you want, for example, x264 and a smaller size then, yes, it'll need reencoding.
    And (last question) for the plastic version, is there any way to limit the white specks and preserving a minimum of quality ?
    Little white specks can be removed using an AviSynth filter. It will require reencoding. That particular filter doesn't degrade the visual quality much, or lose much detail.

    And I would like to put vibrant colors because it is kind of dark...
    On a computer monitor? It's supposed to look that way. It'll look 'brighter' on a properly calibrated television set. Have you watched it on TV and you still think it's too 'dark'?
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    Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    Thanks for taking a look at it... It's strange, because on my side it is interlaced...
    And I would like to put vibrant colors because it is kind of dark, furthermore, I have 2 other complete animation collections that is the same way (the smurfs and the moomins, and soon card captor Sakura... , and I also have Dora (for my nephew) that is in bad shape (like TV rip, sort of).

    Any way to adjust colors in VidCoder or similar software that support j264 (or x264...) ?
    Well,umm....the m2v sample you submitted isn't interlaced, but it is telecined. You can spiff things up a bit, but not in a lossy compressed medium. I opened the m2v into lossless AVI (in its original YV12 colorspace) and saved each processing step with Lagarith. It's somewhat confusing about where the m2v came from: was your source h264/mkv and converted to MPEG? In any case, the m2v shows resizing and some interlace artifacts, notably some jaggies, block noise and banding. I did some prep cleanup in YV12 with Avisynth, then converted to RGB and worked the rest of the color and smoothing in VirtualDub. Cleaning up re-encodes is a headache. I would have gone directly from mkv to AVi and worked that way to avoid problems.

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    Most of the spots and chroma flicker are gone. Took some work to keep banding from returning during re-encode with HCenc. This was the first step, in YV12:
    Code:
    vidpath="E:\forum\old_anime\"
    ppath="D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\"
    Import("D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\QTGMC-3.32.avs")
    Import("D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveSpots.avs")
    Import("D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\daa3.avs")
    Import("D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\FastLineDarken 1.3.avs")
    LoadPlugin("D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools.dll")
    
    # ----------------------------------------------
    # .d2v project file created with DGIndex using
    # "Ignore pulldown flags" switch for 100% 
    # progressive 23.97 fps video (telecine removed).
    #              (Input is YV12 MPEG2) 
    # ----------------------------------------------
    MPEG2Source(vidpath+"test-002mkvIG.d2v",CPU=5)
    
    ColorYUV(off_y=12,cont_y=15)
    ColorYUV(off_u=4)
    RemoveSpots()
    FastLineDarken()
    daa3()
    QTGMC(InputType=1,preset="medium")
    DeBlock_QED()
    GradFun2DBmod()
    TTempSmooth()
    mergechroma(aWarpSharp(depth=20.0, thresh=0.75, blurlevel=2, cm=1))
    AddGrainC(var=1.5,uvar=1.5)
    
    # ---- to RGB for VirtualDub work ------
    ConvertToRGB32(matrix="rec601",interlaced=false)
    Crop(2,4,-2,-8).AddBorders(2,6,2,6)
    
    Juicing up the image wasn't just a matter of "contrast". The midrange/brights look depressed, but darks are OK. In VirtualDub I used a low-power (very low power) NeatVideo to smooth grainy transitions without losing definition, then fixed levels and color (too much cyan) with ColorMill and gradation curves. Settings for those filters are mighty complex, but I saved the .vcf file for its settings. Unfortunately, you need the same popular filters I used for the .vcf settings to work.

    Then, to prevent more block noise and banding I used this to go from RGB back to YV12 for the HCenc encoder:
    Code:
    vidpath="E:\forum\old_anime\"
    dppath="D:\Avisynth 2.5\plugins\dither\"
    Import(dppath+"Dither.avs")
    Import(dppath+"mt_xxpand_multi.avs")
    LoadPlugin(dppath+"avstp.dll")
    LoadPlugin(dppath+"dither.dll")
    LoadPlugin(dppath+"mt_masktools-26.dll")
    
    AviSource(vidpath+"Test002_RGB.avi")
    Dither_convert_rgb_to_yuv(interlaced=false,tv_range=true)
    The attached .m2v is probably more to your liking (it has been re-telecined for 29.97fps). This level of work requires lossless media before recompression or re-encoding.
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  13. Thanks for that nice post manono.

    I have a better understanding of the 3:2 pulldown now, thanks to you. (Just to know: does it exist a 23.976fps interlaced or a 29.97fps progressive?)

    No, I have extracted the data with MakeMKV.... and deleted the original ISO file... :S

    Because I had a lot of ISO files and I converted all of them to MKV.
    Tried to run a recovery software, but the MVK might been wrote over the deleted ISO file.

    Thanks for the details about the white specks

    By "dark" color" i mean... faded, like old... addind a little bit of saturation bring "fresh" colors and looks like a more recent animation movie. I watched the orginial VHS and the DVD version and both look that way on a TV.

    I hate me so much now, I will never delete an ISO image again, never!
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  14. Thanks sanlyn for this detailled post, I'll do some research on some terms... hehe

    The m2v came from a MPEG file which was extracted from a MKV dump created by MakeMKV. The original video codec is a MPEG2.

    This is amazing (it is going to be more amazing when it will be the entire movie hehe) !
    I'm excited of comparing before/after Thanks for removing a little bit of cyan, it was... too much.

    So I need to download all AVS and DLL used in your script. Create 1 file for each script. Convert the video to AVI lossless, And then apply the first then the second script on the video with AviSynth?

    Sorry for your headache. And 1000 times thank you for all of this. I don't know where you'Ve learn all of that, but your like an expert
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    Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    Just to know: does it exist a 23.976fps interlaced or a 29.97fps progressive?)
    Internally it is 23.976 progressive, with flags for 3:2 pulldown to be added during playback. That's often called "soft" telecine because the telecined frames are really progressive, while the playback app "adds" the extra fields for 29.972 fps playback instead of hard-encoding the telecine effect.

    Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    I hate me so much now, I will never delete an ISO image again, never!
    Don't beat tourself up, and join the club !! You ain't the only one. Keep original source as long as you can.

    Most of that gamma and color fix was done in VirtualDub. You could probably do without NeatVideo, but ColorMill and gradation curves were the key filters. Ask if you need tips on those.
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    Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    So I need to download all AVS and DLL used in your script. Create 1 file for each script. Convert the video to AVI lossless, And then apply the first then the second script on the video with AviSynth?
    Correct. I get the idea that this might be the first time you've seen some of these plugins. If so, you're bound to have the same problems everyone does, even though all the filters are probably some of the most popular Avisynth plugins around. Never fear, once you get them loaded they'll be in constant use. Let us know if you have problems.

    FastLineDarken is an older screipt (I like it better, fewer problems), requires old MaskTools 1.5.8, attached below.
    RemoveSpots.avs also attached. It's really another version of RemoveDirt(). Chime in if any problems.
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    ...And in case RemoveDirt (which is the "parent" of RemoveSpots), gives you fits, the SSE2 version of its dll's is attached. Today I noticed that some of its download links don't work.
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  18. Great!! Thank yous o much.

    Okay thanks, I get a better idea of what is happening in a video with the pulldown. (I think I'm going to like video editing stuff)

    Well, I'm sure everyone once in a while delete a file and regret it after.

    I (finally) found a copy of ColorMill, version 2.1.1... and I already have Neat Video 3.0

    Like you suggested, I'm switching form MKV (Video: MPEG2) directly to AVI with Lagarith using SUPER(C).

    Setting in SuperC: AVI Lagarith with FFmpeg. No DirectShow Decode. No audio output
    Video scale: No change / FPS 29.97 / Stretch it Unchecked.

    I'll wait and see the result.

    Thanks for the plugins! Saved me times and internet search

    I'll keep you posted.
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  19. Hum.... newbie question, SUPER C always give me an error "Failure to load driver".

    Any easy way to transcode the mkv file to an avi file with lagarith?
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    Nice work! I find NeatVideo essential in many cases, although one can't throw it at everything in sight. I couldn't make a perfect NeatVideo noise sample from your m2v, so I used a noise patch + settings from an old anime with similar noise. The DNP and NFP I used are attached below.

    I also attached a .zip for gradation curves, ColorTools, and the VirtualDub .vcf I used. Open the RGB AVI in VirtualDub, then load the processing file (.vcf). The vcf will probably find NeatVideo, but not the dnp and nfp, which I had in another folder. Just open NeatVideo and navigate to the location where you have the dnp and nfp files.
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    Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    Hum.... newbie question, SUPER C always give me an error "Failure to load driver".

    Any easy way to transcode the mkv file to an avi file with lagarith?
    Actually you don't transcode, you decode (decompress). I've used some of the one-stop-shop utils you mention for processing h264, but it's been a long time and I don't even have them installed any more. I open many h264 mkv's with TMPGenc Editor, or directly in Avisynth with the DirectShowSource command. I see others get more complicated with FFmpegSource (Also has an "FFVideoSource" command that I've seen used). Other members might have more advice. Either way, you can then manipulate the opened clip with the same Avisynth commands used for other videos, and save with VirtualDub using Lagarith.

    Let us know if DirectShowSource works for you. Remember, the file you open will have 3:2 pulldown active. You'll have to use TFM/TDecimate from the TIVTC plugin for that, but it's pretty straightforward and fast -- probably even better than DGIndex's telecine remover.
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  22. Thanks for those files! Annnnd thanks for the VCF file

    NeatVideo's settings in Advanced mode are amazing! And the config file load succesfully ^^ (I'm very happy)

    So here's how it is set up:

    Current Plugins for AviSynth: (C:\Videos\AviSynth)
    DirectShowSource.dll
    FastLineDarken 1.3.avs
    ffavisynth.dll
    MaskTools.dll
    RemoveDirt.avs / RemoveDirt.dll
    RemoveGrainSSE2.dll
    RemoveGrainT.dll
    RepairSSE2.dll
    SSE2Tools.dll
    TCPDeliver.dll (Came with Avisynth)

    Current Plugins for VirtualDub: (C:\Videos\VirtualDub)
    ColorMill.vdf
    Hue.vdf
    NeatVideo.dat / NeatVideo.vdf
    clrtools.vdf
    gradation.vdf

    Test002_RGB.vcf, Test002_RGB.nfp, Test002_RGB.nfp, script1 and script2 (avisynth) are in the same folder (C:\Videos\vid_onceupon) with the mkv video.

    (Duh, never though about that this way.. decode )

    Okay, I found docs about DirectShowSource, here's the command I need to run with AviSynth.

    DirectShowSource("C:\Videos\vid_onceupon\Once Upon A Forest.mkv", fps=29.970628, pixel_type="YV12", audio=False)

    Does that make sence? (You told me earlier that I need to decode it with it's original colorspace)

    Next step: trying to execute AviSynth script with VirtualDub to decode the video...
    File > Run Script show me an error from VirtualDub (Not from avisynth) for the AVS file.
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  23. Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    Just to know: does it exist a 23.976fps interlaced or a 29.97fps progressive?
    Interlaced 23.976fps? No, not ordinarily, although it can be created, but you shouldn't encode for NTSC DVD using interlaced 23.976fps as a source.

    Progressive 29.97fps? Yes it exists and is fairly common, but for DVD it's almost always encoded as interlaced.
    The m2v came from a MPEG file which was extracted from a MKV dump created by MakeMKV. The original video codec is a MPEG2.
    I don't quite understand this obsession many have for turning everything into an MKV. There was nothing wrong with the MPG, so why? Is it for multimedia player compatibility or some similar reason? It's easy enough to extract the M2V and AC3 audio from the MKV (or from your originally downloaded ISO) to make the MPG again. VOB/MPG/M2V are a helluva lot easier to work with for filtering and reencoding purposes than are MKVs. For me anyway.
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    You'll have to use TFM/TDecimate from the TIVTC plugin for that, but it's pretty straightforward and fast -- probably even better than DGIndex's telecine remover.
    If it's 100% film, that's not true. IVTCs make mistakes sometimes, but if the TFF/RFF flags have been applied correctly, no mistakes, no deinterlaced frames, each field with its partner. If he's going to reencode anyway, he's better off making a D2V using Forced Film and using DGDecode.dll and Mpeg2Source. I'd never recommend anyone use DirectShowSource when there are better alternatives.
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  24. MKV can contain multiple audio tracks it's why I transfer all my DVDs to MKV.

    Thanks for the fact about NTSC

    Okay, I didn't not transfer MPG to MKV. On the DVD itself (audio_ts and video_ts), the video codec was MPEG, and AC3 for audio.

    MakeMKV take all the content of the DVD and make 1 single file with all subs, audio tracks, etc, without decoding or encoding.
    But now I need to put the MPEG2 file to Lagarith... You seem familiar with the process, do you think its possible for you to explain it to me please?
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    I agree, mpg->mkv or other to-0and-fro conversions....just a big headache. OK, I see where mkv for archiving in your space capsule might be in order, but multiple conversions just cause problems even when you're careful. I belive the impression is that MPEG->h264 is supposed to make DVD look like HD. Fat chance.

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    Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    Next step: trying to execute AviSynth script with VirtualDub to decode the video...
    File > Run Script show me an error from VirtualDub (Not from avisynth) for the AVS file.
    Setup seems OK so far, but when you get errors copy the error text and post it. There are thousands of errors from all sources, no way to advise without the details. Also, you might not need all the parameters in that DirectShowSource statement; I hardly ever use more than the file location unless something goes haywire.

    BTW, when trying new filters and methods, processing an entire video at one time can drive you crazy. Trim out a short clip to get a feel for new procedures. Most people often split the video into many smaller parts and rejoin later. Saves much angst if something goes wrong after an hour of processing .
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  26. Originally Posted by askiplop View Post
    MKV can contain multiple audio tracks
    So can DVDs. So, again, what's wrong with keeping the original DVD? The argument that people want everything in a single file is bogus to me.
    But now I need to put the MPEG2 file to Lagarith...
    Open the MKV in DGIndex. Go Video->Field Operation and set it for Forced Film. Go File->Save Project. That will give you a 23.976fps D2V and the audio. Keep the audio for remuxing later on.

    Make a script like so:

    LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\DGDecode.dll")#Adjust for names and paths
    MPEG2Source("C:\Path\To\Movie.d2v")


    Open it in VDub as you would any other video, choose Lagarith, set it up, and save the AVI. Add other filters to your script if you like. Read the docs included in the DGMPGDec package that includes the DGDecode.dll and DGIndex. Let us know of any error messages along the way.
    You seem familiar with the process
    You might say that as I've done it a few thousand times, I would guess.
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  27. Hehehe okay good advise, thx!
    (I can use trim funciton with avisynth like that:
    Trim(10000, 12000) ++ Trim(20000, 30000) ++ Trim(40000, 45000)
    , that way I have 3 short scenes and can easily adjust filter's settings)

    I figured out how to run an avisynth script... i wasnt sure because It gave me a strange error, but after running the version() script, AviSynth told me that the RemoveGrainT.dll file was corrupt. Deleting it, exemple scripts are working!!

    But trying to open the script with only 1 parameter (the path to the mkv file) give me this error:

    ---------------------------
    VirtualDub Error
    ---------------------------
    Avisynth open failure:
    DirectShowSource: RenderFile, the filter graph manager won't talk to me
    (C:\Videos\vid_onceupon\Extract MKV vid.avs, line 1)
    ---------------------------

    OR

    ---------------------------
    VirtualDub Error
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    File "C:\Videos\vid_onceupon\Extract MKV vid.avs" does not have a video stream.
    ---------------------------


    Script (1 line):
    DirectShowSource("C:\Videos\vid_onceupon\once_upon _a_forest.mkv")


    Video path:
    C:\Videos\vid_onceupon\once_upon_a_forest.mkv (tested and working)

    And I agree with the fact that big company sell fake-hd with h264 encode. :P
    MakeMKV just take the VOB file from the dvd and put it together, without encoding
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  28. manono, thank you! I forgot about DGIndex, too many video program since yesterday lol... (It still not AVI Lagarith but I guess it's okay if you did it thousand of times, it should be the right path to follow.

    demuxing right now...


    EDIT


    manono

    got an error hehehe


    Video>Field Op.>Forced Film
    File>Open, chose the mkv file
    File List Windows appear, OK
    File > Save project > Save

    DGIndex startit's work...

    At 9% it freeze, at the bottom of the information windows I can see: Info picture error.

    I click File > Stop
    DGIndex show:
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    Field Order Transition Detected
    ---------------------------
    A field order transition was detected.
    It is not possible to decide automatically if this should be corrected.
    Refer to the DGIndex Users Manual for an explanation.
    You can choose to correct it by hitting the Yes button below or
    you can correct it later using the Fix D2V tool.

    Correct the field order transition?


    If I click Yes, it creates a once_upon_a_forest.d2v.bad file containing transition informations.( Don't know if it can be useful)

    The result file once_upon_a_forest.d2v is 51 KB ins size.
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    It will demux to an .m2v plus audio files + a .d2v project file. I'd work with the d2v and MPEG2Source to open. Likely you can sync up audio later, it's a hassle to carry audio from file to file.

    Hmm...well, I don't have your mkv so I can't say what the problem was. I seldom have problems with DirectShowSource, but anyway things are underway now.
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    Sorry, duplicate post.

    Still thinkiung about the field change business.
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