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    Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    Use that line : primary: "flash" within your script, jwplayer then renders flash whenever possible instead of default html5.

    Code:
    <html>
    <head>
    <title>your title</title>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.your.site.com/jwplayer/jwplayer.js"></script>
    </head>
    <body>
    <h2>headline</h2>
    <div id="container"></div>
    <script type="text/javascript">
        jwplayer("container").setup({
            file: "www.your.site.com/video.mp4",
            primary: "flash",
            height: 360,
            width: 480
            
      });
      
    </script>
    </body>
    </html>
    But my Megui encoded mp4 with isom as a Codec ID works anywhere, any browser, device. HTML5 render gives me trouble with some custom scripts and rss playlists (even it worked with 5.x version) , it might be some bug (new release) or just simply I have to change it because I do not understand that jwplayer5 to jwplayer6 migration or some fluke where before it worked and not now ...
    Thanks again _Al_,

    I'm now using videos coded with Codec ID mp42 (Handbreak) and they appear to work in every browser that I can test. My code is very simple. I'm not using anything like a skin or playlist. However, as this thread indicates the Codec ID isom seemed to be the one that gave me trouble.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed. All seems well.

    I'd be interested in the results of your further investigation.

    Thanks again for all your help.
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    Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    I'm not sure if that's the precise reason for your observations, but they add support to the hypothesis I have , put together from dozens of different experiences over the years, where I noticed sometimes a video didn't play or had problems (not necessarily all flash based, some applications, some devices).

    Basically, there are slightly different mp4 muxers and slightly different MP4 specs . Some may cause compatibility issues

    The "Codec ID" actually refers to the ftyp code. Here is an excerpt of commonly used ones:

    "isom" MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
    "mp41" MP4 v1 [ISO 14496-1:ch13]
    "mp42" MP4 v2 [ISO 14496-14]
    "qt" Apple QuickTime (.MOV/QT)

    If you want a bigger listing
    http://www.ftyps.com/

    "mp42" is part of mpeg-4 part 14 . It's the most compatible for the most part I've noticed across the board, but some apple devices may prefer "qt" . It adds some extensions over "isom", which I'm guessing is the reason for the compatibility issues
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14

    For example ffmpeg uses "isom" , but ffmbc uses "mp42" when muxing mp4 by default . I've noticed that the mp4's created by ffmbc seem more compatible, despite using same encoding settings. If you look up the ISO documentation, you can see the exact details.
    poisondeathray - Thank-you for the info and references.

    I have used a number of programs to convert my videos to MP4. Some have very limited options, others have a bewildering number of options that I don't fully understand. Nonetheless, I adjusted some of them in an effort to get a compatible MP4. Interestingly, none of those programs had an option to explicitly select either the isom or mp42 codec.

    In an effort to understand and prior to posting, I did read the Wikipedia article and several other references to MP4. Most were very technical and described the different "MP4" formats and the history and standardization of their development. They were interesting but I won't pretend to understand every detail.

    I was looking for something that probably doesn't exist. i.e. A specification of the exact program and/or specifications (or options) that would produce an MP4 that would be compatible on all platforms.

    The whole process has been very time consuming and frustrating but in the end it was rewarding because I now have a somewhat better understanding of the issue and have found a process that seems to work. (Handbreak)

    Thank-you again to both you and _Al_ for all your help. I'm always amazed at the number of wonderful people who participate in forums like this one and freely give their time and assistance to others.
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