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  1. Originally Posted by manono View Post
    Originally Posted by CobraPilot View Post
    All my comments about DVD9 to DVD5 refer to conversions *with* all the extras, in most cases, unless it's a 3+ hour movie, and even then, it's worth a try.
    As he's from India, harishkumar09 will know of Sholay. And it's well over three hours long. I did my best with it, and am pleased with the results, but wouldn't consider what I did nearly the quality of the source DVD (which is French and not Indian). For one thing, to make it more compressible I removed most of the film grain.

    I also compress most DVD9s to DVD5, and include what extras I can (although not at the same quality as the film itself) when the quality of the film isn't degraded too much as a result of including them. And if you're really using DVD Shrink for the job, you've lost all credibility in my eyes. Maybe if you were doing it manually, or even with DVD-RB...
    Another one of your presumptuous comments:

    As he's from India, harishkumar09 will know of Sholay.

    Why should I? I am from Tamil Nadu and the local film industry produces good content which is copied by guys up north. I had to enquire about this Sholay, and came to know it was another remade re-hash from some old western. Have you read Anurag Kashyaps recent statement - "I breathe because of Tamil cinema". So go and stuff your opinions, you know where and stop presuming things. I guess watching your bollywood crap has resulted in serious eye-damage, stop watching it, while its not too late.

    And lastly you owe your English reading and writing skills and your existence to tamilians - if they did not object to Hindi, you would not have studied English (govt of India would have banned English schools to promote your 200-year old crap Hindi) and would have remained unemployable for the rest of your lives - except perhaps as a dacoit from Chambal looting innocent people.

    No doubt you recommend me to watch your dacoit movies. And even think you are doing me a favour!
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  2. monano pontificates: That's just my point. When some idiot pulls a figure out of his ass like 55%, he obviously knows nothing about transcoding .vs encoding, or how transcoders produce the results they do. They know nothing about different movies having different amounts of 'overhead' for further compression. They know nothing about different movies compressing differently. Nor does he know how to tell the difference between the results a transcoder produces and those a good encoder produces. My differences with that person have nothing to do with the age of the program.
    monano, your rude, arrogant, know-it-all pontifications seem to know no bounds. You continue to make assumption after assumption, presumption after presumption, and insulting remark after insulting remark.

    For what purpose? To start a flame-war? In that, you have succeeded with your name-calling and presumptious ridicule.

    I did not pull that 55% figure "out of my a**," a/k/a the place from which you seem to be speaking. Suitable to my own "calibrated eyeballs," I've used "shrink" software to reach that abominable 55% (in your exalted eyes) to my own personal, perhaps-unsuitable-to-everyone-else-on-the-planet, satisfaction.

    That's all I've ever said: OP, run your own test, see what your "calibrated eyeballs" tell you. If you don't like compression to the lower levels, try something else. If encoding works better than transcoding for your needs, try it.

    harishkumar09, to add to what you said about not equating a mistake (or perceived one) with idiocy, there is an old axiom, "We are all ignorant; just on different topics."

    In this thread, ignorance of common courtesy is one of those topics.

    Your mileage may vary.
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  3. To continue this discussion about "calibrated eyeballs", I have two episodes of a TV series. They are both .avi files which I recorded.

    Each episode is:

    Size: 700 MB
    Duration: 1 hour and 28 minutes
    Frame: 624 by 352


    Following are two scenarios:

    First I converted just one episode(.avi) to a DVD5 folder structure. I get the following stats:

    Each of the VOBs is 0.99 GB (there are four such VOBs , and another one of size 334 MB)
    Data rate is 6334 kbps

    Now I converted two such episodes to a DVD5 folder structure. I get the following stats:

    Each of the VOBs is 0.99 GB (there are four such VOBs , and another two of size 150 MB)
    Data rate is 2930 kbps

    As you notice, the second one has VOB files with half the data rate. Yet I can hardly make out any difference when I compare the snapshots, even closeup shots from these two DVDs. Pray tell me what those extra data-rate is for? Is it that the difference will be visible when it is played on larger TVs?
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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....but "garbage in - garbage out" is also true. If you think two garbage sources stuffed onto on DVD looks good then your job is done.
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