converting .vro to .mpg OR .avi (yup another thread)

[Muffyn]

all I want to do is add music to video burned from a hdd dvr recorder..

I am getting so frustrated. ( running win7)

I have this panasonic HDD dvr E80H recorder. been very happy for years with it, just mostly making

dvds burned of home video etc. the problem came with getting a dvd that a family member had made of old

8mm movies. the dork who put it together messed up the arrangement of the film. so I just reedited on

my panasonic, & here is the problem. I will need to add new music on this, with a program like windows

movie maker or whatever. problem is my computer will NOT read the burned disks to get any

files off of it, but it will read the .vro file from a dvd-ram.

now I can play the .vro file with VLC player ok. but that is as far as I can get it.

I have searched dozens & dozens of threads on this subject (on many diffeerent websites) and am really getting "brain mush" trying solution after solution with NO result. I have no idea why none of those suggestions work. & many of the threads on this forum are over 5 years old. so not sure where to find really current info.

HERE are SOME of the programs I have tried::::

wondershare will play the .vro file in its editor, but it is pixilated.

Aura video converter professional > will only convert 10 minutes of the file, have talked to their tech support for several days and cannot come up with a solution.

freemake > started out looking good, took 3 hurs to complete the conversion ,, but it was only a small file pixelated.

tmpgenc, told me i needed a spurs engine device working, but you can only get help if you ave a registered product

other programs I have tired:

avs video converter

free studio mp3 converter

frostwire

kmplayer

foxtab video conveter

womble mpeg video wizard

womble mpeg to vcr

cyberlink power producer

either they won't read the file,, or there is a problem of some sort when I run the software, like starting conversion & then only

converting a few minutes. the biggest problem is there is a lot of pixilating in the resultant file.

some programs will have me copy the file to the computer , but every time I do that, the file is messed up & is pixilated.

Since the program plays just fine from the dvd-ram, I can't figure out why any attempt to open the file on the computer makes it pixelited.

I had considered getting one of those video capture cables that are usually bundled with an editing program then play the movie on the panasonic & writing it to the computer.

BUT I have read a bunch of reviews & many complain of pixels & poor output. now I have a good video, why make it worse?

I dunno what to do now.

this cannot be THAT hard to do!??

[aedipuss]

start over again with the original source dvd. use a program like vob2mpg to extract the mpeg-2 to a single file. now you can cut it up and play with it. womble stuff is good for that.

[Muffyn]

start over again with the original source dvd. use a program like vob2mpg to extract the mpeg-2 to a single file. now you can cut it up and play with it. womble stuff is good for that.

thanks but that is not going to help.
I don't the original source dvd, but I think I recall that the thing wouldn't play on my computer anyway, so cannot read it to get any vro files off of it.

so still stuck,

all I have are the dvd-r & dvd-ram I burned off of the panasonic hdd dvr

[ronmaz]

Have you tried DGIndex? It will read .vro files. You can save it as a project which will create a .d2v file. You can then open the .d2v file in tmpgenc and convert to .mpg

[sambat]

Mpg2Cut2 can read the VRO file off a DVD-Ram disk and save as an mpeg file.


FWIW, vcdgear can also do it.
DVDPatcher can correct the extracted file aspect ratio.

[Muffyn]

Have you tried DGIndex? It will read .vro files. You can save it as a project which will create a .d2v file. You can then open the .d2v file in tmpgenc and convert to .mpg

thanks.
tired it & it doesn't work. started out looking good, then stopped converting after 10 minutes. I played the file in that player, & it was pixelated,

I dunno... (need some duct tape for my head)

[usually_quiet]

DVD-RAM disks are a bit like a mini hard drive. The file system allows for bad sectors and file fragmentation. However, most players and copy software treat them like a standard DVD, where all the data is contiguous. This approach works most of the time, because the VRO files on DVD-RAM are often contiguous, but when it isn't, the standard approach fails. The edits you did may have created a situation where the data is not contiguous, or there may be some bad sectors on the disc.

The only software I have used which can truly play and copy DVD-RAM discs correctly is made by Cyberlink, PowerDVD to play and PowerDirector to copy.

[Muffyn]

DVD-RAM disks are a bit like a mini hard drive. The file system allows for bad sectors and file fragmentation. However, most players and copy software treat them like a standard DVD, where all the data is contiguous. This approach works most of the time, because the VRO files on DVD-RAM are often contiguous, but when it isn't, the standard approach fails. The edits you did may have created a situation where the data is not contiguous, or there may be some bad sectors on the disc.

The only software I have used which can truly play and copy DVD-RAM discs correctly is made by Cyberlink, PowerDVD to play and PowerDirector to copy.

I am not sure your comment applies to my problem. The original file is on the panasonic HDD dvr. I edited it on that machine. then I dubbed the recording ONTO a dvd-ram, that disc has not had any editing or any other file put on it ( & it was a brand new disc) so shouldn't that file be a pure file?
its just that the programs I kep trying will not read it without pixels & have nto been able to convert it yet.I have treid cyberlink powere producer. I'll look into the others.
I am unwilling to pay full price for a program, that so far many suggestions that i have used free trials will not work.

[sanlyn]

I've always used TMPGEnc MPEg editors v1, 2, and 3, as my old ES20 made lots of VRO movies. I've always had a license for my TMPGenc's, I wasn't aware that the trial version disables the the Panasonic built-in decoder. I'd guess that it's a stipulation from Panasonic. Meanwhile I use those editors to death while I'm reading forum posts about people using fr4ee stuff to edit MPEG's. You might consider buying a copy. They've solved a host of edit problems for me over the years.

[usually_quiet]

DVD-RAM disks are a bit like a mini hard drive. The file system allows for bad sectors and file fragmentation. However, most players and copy software treat them like a standard DVD, where all the data is contiguous. This approach works most of the time, because the VRO files on DVD-RAM are often contiguous, but when it isn't, the standard approach fails. The edits you did may have created a situation where the data is not contiguous, or there may be some bad sectors on the disc.

The only software I have used which can truly play and copy DVD-RAM discs correctly is made by Cyberlink, PowerDVD to play and PowerDirector to copy.

I am not sure your comment applies to my problem. The original file is on the panasonic HDD dvr. I edited it on that machine. then I dubbed the recording ONTO a dvd-ram, that disc has not had any editing or any other file put on it ( & it was a brand new disc) so shouldn't that file be a pure file?
its just that the programs I kep trying will not read it without pixels & have nto been able to convert it yet.I have treid cyberlink powere producer. I'll look into the others.
I am unwilling to pay full price for a program, that so far many suggestions that i have used free trials will not work.

I am not convinced that your file is "pure", but if it is, then MPEG StreamClip can import .VRO files and demultiplex the audio and video. You can then import the video-only file into an editor and replace the background music. Don't use Windows Movie Maker unless you want a .wmv file. There are other editors free or paid that will work better if you want to end up with a different type of video file.

I used MPEG StreamClip successfully many times for importing VRO files on DVD-RAM discs from a Panasonic DVD recorder. However, when I encountered a DVD-RAM disc that had a bad sector, but still played perfectly on the recorder that made it, I found that PowerDirector was the only thing that worked correctly for importing the video and audio from that disc.

If MPEG StreamClip doesn't work, and you won't pay for Cyberlink software to recover the video, then I guess you are SOL.

[Edit] I almost forgot... If you want to try it, it is also possible to use VLC to copy the video and audio to a different container using Convert/Save.