The newbies guide to fitting a movie on one CD using TMPGEnc

[rpgguy_1o1]

hmmm i've succesfully used this method to fit longer movies onto a vcd 2 times now, but on my third try it converts 9 seconds into the movie and decides there is an "Illegal Floating Decimal Point Calculation Order." any ideas how to fix this up?

great howto btw

[newgen]

I don't have any experience on subtitles but I found the Doom9 have a few guides. Here's the link http://www.doom9.org/subtitle_guides.htm

I think that if you get an illegal floating decimal point it might be because you have a certain option checked off. Click the settings button at the bottom of the main window. Click the quantize matrix tab. Under special settings make sure that the box use floating point DCT is unchecked. After downloading premade templates I use to get that problem too. I think that settings is what causes it. It also slows down encoding time. I now leave it unchecked and I haven't gotten that error message since.

I sometimes get DVD playing problems too. Sometimes a movie will play weird on my DVD player but when I try it on my DVD drive it plays fine. That just happened to me today. What I did was reburned the movie. My problem though was that the video was messed up. I think to fix a synch problem test small parts of the movie on a CDRW in your DVD player. Try field order A if you want. Check the frame rate. Testing samples may help before you redo the whole movie. Try this only after you have reburned the movie.

[rpgguy_1o1]

i dont get the option to uncheck it...

[newgen]

Without using the wizard. Click on the settings button. It is next to the load and save buttons. The window that pops up is called the \mpeg settings window. There are six different tabs. Click on the fourth tab which is "quantize matrix". The will be two grids and 4 check boxes at the bottom. Whether you are using a locked or unlocked template you should be able to check or uncheck any of the boxes. The 2nd check box is labeled "Use floating point DCT". Uncheck it if it is checked.

[rpgguy_1o1]

yes this is what i did, but still i can't uncheck it

[newgen]

I don't know what else to recommend. Hopefully you haven't gotten the error message too often. In the past when I got it it was only once and a while and after I tried again the movie finished encoding.

[newgen]

I can't think of anything else to recommend. Hopefully you aren't getting that error message too often. When I use to get it I was only once and a while. After I tried to encode the movie again it would do the whole thing without any problems.

[Boolean]

I'm very new at this game so be gentle with me.
I ripped a 92 min DVD to a 80 min CDR. It played great on PowerDVD but the sound on my stand alone DVD (Pioneer DV-444S) stuttered. I was wondering if maybe it cannot handle VBR. I have done other DVD's using the standard 1150 and had no problems.

Any help would be much appreciated. :oops:

[newgen]

I always use CBR instead of VBR. I have not encoded an entire movie in VBR so I don't have to much experience in the quality. I have used CQ VBR before but because it takes twice as long for me and I can't fit a movie more than 90min on 1 CD I no longer use it. Try a small sample of your movie in CBR and see if there is any difference. After testing a lot of samples with a CDRW then you can find what settings are the best.

[blinkureyes]

[quote="newgen"]
help all my movies are choppy....there are parts of the movie that haves like a fast foward effect but the audio is fine....same outcome w/ the the one cd and the 2 cd burning..and when i play it on my playstation using the one cd for the movie the audio and moive is choppy all the time....did everything it said to do as a one cd????help

[newgen]

What did the movie look like before you burned it. How do you get your movies to play on Playstation? I know that's of the subject but I have a friend with a PS2 and he doesn't know how to play VCDs. Personally I have experience with playing VCDs on my DC. For me the playback was bad. The movie would go in slow motion and the audio couldn't keep up. Since I don't know anything about Playstation I don't know how a VCD is supposed to play. If the movie you encoded looked good before you burned it then it might be a burning problem. Skim through the movie if it's still on your hard drive. Check the parts that played especially bad for you. Do they all look fine? What I suggest is make a few samples of the movie and burn them on a CDRW. Double check in the main window of TMPEGEnc to make sure the specks are OK if you plan on reencoding the entire movie. Are you using VBR or CBR? Where you converting a movie from another region? If the frame rate was different then the standard and you didn't set it different then it can cause shoppy video. Try a few of these things.

[budgirl357]

I apologize in advance if this question is confusing or silly, but I am, after all, a newbie newbie - if you know what I mean.

Now, about fitting a movie on one disk. Is it possible to fit a copy of a vcd copy on one cd-r? If so, how?

Peace,
bjbj

[newgen]

Yes all you have to do is get a program that will convert the data file from the CD into an MPEG. Since the movie is on 2 CDs you need to join them together before trying to compress them. Where you merge the two files together, however, you might be able to see. Here is a simple program that rips dat files http://www.vcdgear.com/download_gui.html

[blinkureyes]

[quote="newgen"]
hello now about the playstation...nevermind ....but i has done that on my dvd player too....there are like some scenes that plays it fast motion but the audio is in tact...then the video catches up and everthing is fine again...im using the cbr...thing not the vrc...im burning it w/ nero...8x and i use the all the specs you told us to use...help pls..this never happend to me before....my old news are fine but how it does that fast motion thing in some scenes.....

[blinkureyes]

[quote="newgen"]
oh,,,and when i play it on my computer...it does small pauses at some scenes. whats going on ...

[newgen]

Did you test out the MPEG file that you used to burn. There are many things that I can mess up video. I listed some possible things to check before you encode. Try samples of the parts of the movie that looked messed up. If those samples turn out bad then you may need to rerip the movie. Every now and then I do get a bad rip.

[vcd4me]

Newgen, I've read all 4 pages of how to fit on one and boy am i confused ihave only made basic vcd's so far and have not yet done advd rip. I'm trying to learn in baby steps. I have a few questions:

1.)can i use this guide for a downloaded movie?

2.)Do I have to actually make a templet or can I just adjust some things like bit rate

If I can do this what setting should I use here are the stats for the avi file:

bitrate is already 1066Kb(downloaded it that way)
time of movie 89.09 minutes
resolution is 640/272

[newgen]

You can use this for a a downloaded movie. Just skip the ripping and frame serving steps. You should still make you own template beacuse if you want to ever use this method again then you won't have to keep changing the settings each time. For the sound of you avi file I think you have to extract that with virtualdub because after you are done encoding the movie it might not have any sound. I personally don't have experience with converting downloaded movie only DVDs and captured files. There are other guides at VCDhelp that show you how to convert AVI to MPEG under the convert section. Just follow there steps up until the point you have to use TMPGEnc. If the file is alreeady under 800MB then you won't need to compress it at all. All you have to do is load the standard VCD template that comes with TMPGEnc. If not start following the steps for creating your own template.

[vcd4me]

Ok like I said I know how to use the guides to make vcds . I still get confused about the time and file size thing. I was told when making vcds the only thing that matters is the time. I always thought diffrently until someone on this site told me otherwise.

the file size is 696.42MB ( 713.138KB)

the time is : 89.09

bitrate is 1066kb

without making a template what settings do I need to change?

You said If the file is already under 800MB then you won't need to compress it at all. All you have to do is load the standard VCD template that comes with TMPGEnc.

If this is true what about the file. mine is 696.42 before converting & being 89.09 minutes.What do I do? Please Help. I'm so confused about the time file size thing it's a 80 minute/700mb cd-r

[newgen]

If you check out the guides for conerting an AVi file into an MPEG then you can properly load it into TMPGEnc. As for the template you shouldn't have to change any settings tha's why I said load the standard template. The newly converted file should be under 800MB. What I meant by the file being small enough to fit on an 80min CD I was talking about the mode you burn in. Mode 1 allows you to burn data at the capacity of the CD(650MB for a 74min CD and 700MB for a 80min CD). In mode 2 you can burn by the time listed on the CD instead of the space allowing you to put on more data(74min CD=740MB, 80min CD=800MB). I don't know what program you use to burn but the two programs I use to burn VCDs are VCDEasy and Nero. Both of those programs allow you to burn in mode 2 for VCDs. That is why an 800MB movie can fit on an 80min CD instead of putting 700MB of data on it. It does not matter how long the movie actually is because I have fit movies as long as 2 hours on a standard 80min CD

[vcd4me]

Thank you very much Newgen. I never heard anybody explain it that way.The way you explained it to me made a little more sense.
I'm going to try it right now!

[Nubie]

Hey, I want to convert an AVI to a one disc vcd format. When I followed your guide, everything went alright, until there was an error, which said something like "file stream error". I wanted to know what I did wrong, or is it just my computer's performance's fault...

Thanx,
Nubie

[newgen]

If you were wondering how to convert AVI then here is VCDHelp's guide for converting it: http://www.vcdhelp.com/divxtovcd.htm. It involves using Vitualdub and TMPGEnc. You will need to use Virtualdub first before moving on to TMPGEnc for the least amount of errors.

[vesterlee]

W hen i start the encoding process there is no picture, just a blank black screen what is the problem?

[newgen]

Click the Options menu at the top of TMPGEnc's main window. Highlight Preview options then choose display with thinning or show all frames.

[afrodeziak]

Hey newgen, when you burn the final mpeg with NERO, do u use track-at-once or disc-at-once?

[vesterlee]

HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING NEW TEMPLATES IN PROJECT WINDOW please help

[vcd4me]

Hi newgen

I talked to you the other day about my file and you told me to use the stardard vcd tmplate well I did and the file went from

713138KB(or 696.42MB) to 910384KB (I think that's 889.046MB)
Is my math right on the fnal product on windows it gives the file size in KB

the movie is 89.09 minutes
the bit rate was 1066

Any suggestions where I went wrong

[imtiaz49]

Hi, is it possible to copy a divx movie (from p2p) to one disc. Will it work if I use the procedure mentioned above---skipping the burning DVD part?? Waiting for a response....Thank You

[newgen]

To afrodeziak:
You use Disc-at-Once when burning in Nero.

To vcd4me:
I was not sure about how big the file size would be for a AVI to MPEG conversion. I don't have much experience with converting that format. I'm sorry that the file was larger that 800MB. If you start going through my steps for making your own template then you can control the file size. At the end of the wizard it will tell you exactly how big the file will be.

To vesterlee:
What I recommend is double checking that you saved the new template in the wizard folder in the version of TMPGEnc that you use. If you have more then one version installed then it might have saved in another folders version. The saving steps are illustrated in my guide. Please refer to them for more detail. Just like when you save a regular document you have to make sure you save it in the right place or you won't be able to find it.

To imtiaz49:
You can convert DIVX but since I have no experience working with DIVX I am refering everyone to a guide available on VCDHelp's site that shows you how to use Virtualdub to extract the sound first. If you look at one of my earlier posts probably on the same page you will find a link to it. Once you get to the part about working with TMPGEnc then you can come back to this guide and follow the steps for making your own template.