The newbies guide to fitting a movie on one CD using TMPGEnc

[Cole]

Newgen,

I recorded and encoded a VHS tape of an old black and white film and found that it was seven minutes too long to burn onto a 900MB CD-R. I thought that I would have to split the film into two parts, but I followed the TMPGEnc instructions on your guide and it worked perfectly on my stand alone DVD player, with hardly any loss of quality.

Fair enough, it was only a small reduction but I had to start somewhere!

However, it took six and a half hours to encode on a AMD athlon 1.4 Mhz. Think that I may need an upgrade if I am going to do this often.

Just wanted to say thanks.

[St0ked56]

I used your guide but when I got to the step where you said save the "One Disk CD" to the wizards folder I found out I don't have a wizards folder. Is there something else I can do instead?

[alandla]

I have tried this following the instructions but it never works.
I have a 257Mb AVI file which I want to convert to a MPEG1 file to burn on as a VCD. When I first converted it with TMPG, it gave me an MPEG1 file of 772Mb. Thus I wanted to compress it enough to get it on on CD-R.
The funny thing is that when you play the MPEG1 file in a player (say windows media player) it it only 75 minutes long.
When I was adjusting the bitrate in TMPG on the AVI file, first of all it said that the estimated file size was 772Mb but was only 94% of an 80 minute CD. I ignored this and lowered the bitrate to 1048 to make the estimated file size 699.9 MB. When I hit start it took 2 hrs to encode and the file size is still 772Mb.
I've tried different bitrates but it always comes out as a 772Mb size file.
ANy help?

[spleen]

I have tried this following the instructions but it never works.
I have a 257Mb AVI file which I want to convert to a MPEG1 file to burn on as a VCD. When I first converted it with TMPG, it gave me an MPEG1 file of 772Mb. Thus I wanted to compress it enough to get it on on CD-R.
ANy help?

Are you using TMPG 2.59? If so, you'll need to use 2.58 because of a 2.59 bug. Check out other posts in this forum for the link, I don't recall what it is off-hand.

dj

[crack_man]

Here´s the link to TMPEnc v2.58:
http://www.downseek.com/download/21222.asp

[alandla]

Thanks for the link to version 2.58. I was using 2.55 and that didn't work so I went to the TMPG site and downloaded ver 2.59 and that didn't work. I will now try 2.58. If this doesn't work, the computer goes out the window javascript:emoticon('')
http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif(actually I'd jump before I'd let the computer go).

[alandla]

Thanks to everyone for your help and I especially appreciate the link to TMPG 5.8
After reading some other posts about disc capacity of Cd-R's, I now believe that the problem was with the Easy CD Creator 5.0 software that I used to burn the VCD. I should have been able to burn a 770Mb file to an 80 min CD-R but Easy Cd Creator 5.0's VCD Creator wouldn't let me until the file size was reduced to 700MB.
Anyway, I did compress the file and have a VCD.
Thanks to all and keep up the good work.

[better life]

When I open the Load, it has only a folder of Cache, it doesn't have any of Template or Wizard. My TMPG is version 2.58. Can any help?

[crack_man]

Try using the latest TMPGEnc which have fixed the bug from v2.59.
The latest one is TMPGEnc 2.510 and you can install i from here:
http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html

[mats.hogberg]

The subtitles have nothing to do with the audio. You have to use SubRip (or something like that) to get the subs from the ripped VOBs to SSA format. Then, using either AviSynth or VirtualDub and the TextSub filter, you frame serve this to TMPGEnc.
The subs will "take" some of the bitrate, leaving the rest of the picture slightly worse compared to the same movie without subs (at a given bitrate).

/Mats
(OOoops! didn't realize that there was more pages to this thread. This is in response to a post several pages back! )

[kryne]

hey i used your template 2 times before and they worked perfect but now i have windows xp and i cant seem to get it to work again, the sound always cuts in and out, and is off sync, i burn at 2x so its not that, was wondering if anyone could help me out, also used the kvcd templates and have the same problem

[XsniperX]

Hi a little stuck..

I use TMPGenc 2.59 and do vcd's from avi files, i do not rip my own dvd's..

I am interested in one cd vcd's but canno tseem to get it right got a film, 1 hour 36 to fit on cdr 80, bit calc, says 830, so did that to use 99% of the cdr, stream is set to non standard, like in the guide, but the file came out as 1.1gigs....

Is this becasue i do not know the source of the avi, and some just won't fit onto one vcd? or is it i am just missing out on something

Many thx in advance!!!

[confusedone]

i used dvd decryptor to rip the dvd. and dvd2avi, and then vcdeasy and chapterxtractor, then burned with nero following these guides and when i play it back in my dvd player, it plays fast, almost like in fast forward. what am i doing wrong?

[Lenny!]

hello !
thx for the great guide , but i have couple of qustions :
1)i have a movie that is 2 hours and 16 min , in regular bitrate 1150 vcd its two disks of 80 min , now it will be on in bit rate the 571 its something like half ,am i gonna lose alot of qulity ????
2)i am using 2.510 and in the picture in the gudie


u are over the 80 min and the progrem dosnt show u the red line thats says that u are over the disk why i have this red thing when i over the 80 min of a disk ??? am i doing something worng ??

Lenny

[Hex0]

I don't get it!! This is so frustrating!!

I've followed this guide, went through a lot of posts on this thread but couldn't find any answers!

I'm using TMPGEnc Plus v.2.510.49.157 and have encoded VCD movies using the bitrate calculator to make the file size 100% of the CD (80min). The resulting file size is something like 821,087,792 bytes.

However, when I drag the mpeg into Nero in order to create a VCD, the file size drops down to 723,697,664 bytes!!

Why does this happen??!!! I would really appreciate any helpI could get on this.

Thanks!

[Cole]

I think that Nero is still calculating as a standard 1150kbs VCD and as the XVCD that is created using this method is a lower bit rate, Nero will read it as a lower size file.

Hope that this helps, Hex0.

[EnNiS]

DESPERATLY IN NEED OF HELP!!!

hey i have made 2 one cd vcd's
the 1st one was like 82.59 minutes and was like 820 in filesize, i was pissed off at the bit. calc., but i later found out that it was my TMPGEnc 2.59, so i tried 2.58 and it worked for the second one perfect. but back to the first. when i tried to burn it woudnt let me fit it all and i had to overburn, it was unsucesful. it measuerud it by minutes not filesize in nero. so i am pissed. hopefully when i burn teh 2nd one i will have more success.
now on to the 3rd and 4th attempts.
3rd one was Gangs of New York, super high quality avi (not sure maybe xvid) and it was liek 2.38.13 in total. i had to do a bitrate of 1137, audio 160) and it look fine. untill it go half thru and the screen turned black but there was stil audio. the bad news was i deleted the source files and had to redownload
4th attemp: Lord of the Rinsg, 2 towers, XvID, and its high qual.
i am going to use to one cd vcd method thing, but divide it into 2 cd's, just because its so long. so i have to use a bitrate of 1035 for the 2 cd's.
well i convert the audio to wav and do all teh crap. then convert'
well the bloody audio doesnt work!!!
PLEASE HELP
WHAT DO I DO
thanx

[Cole]

when i tried to burn it woudnt let me fit it all and i had to overburn, it was unsucesful. it measured it by minutes not filesize in nero

EnNiS, this may provide a clue to the answer https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143639.

[EnNiS]

hey thanx cole
you got a solution to my other problems

i need help rite away on the lotr two towers thing, cuz no mater what i do to the audio it wont appear on the movie.

thanx

[Cole]

'Fraid not EnNiS, as the system that I use, I don't need to split the audio out. I have not got into DivX at all or ripping from DVDs. However, the bitrate was all I could help you on as I had been burning to a 900MB CD-R where I discovered a similar issue.

My experience is backing up VHS cassettes and my VCR to Cannopus ADVC-50 to TEMPGEnc to (X)VCD to DVD player works a treat.

[EnNiS]

k crap thanx n e way
i need help badly on this
please sum1 help
i need to burn this for a friend
thanx
bye

[EnNiS]

any1
pelase help

[ntscuser]

Hi. One problem that a few other people have been having is the estimated file size issue. The solution to that was supposed to be to make the video stream MPEG-1 Non standard. I did that, and did everything else selected in the guide. When I looked at the movie info in TMPGEnc, it said 145 min 19 sec....but on the dvd it says only 117 min. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I used the calculator to set my bitrate, and it said 99.9 percent of the CD would be used for a file size that was greater then the 650 mb cd I'm using, but not too much over, about 700. That's not the main problem I'm having though. What's really happening is after I put in the appropriate bitrate, and encode it, I'm getting a file size of over a gig. Any idea what happened?

I had this problem too initially. Two things to look out for:

1) When using the bitrate calculator be sure to open 'advanced' and enter '2' as the number of tracks for a stereo recording.

2) Be certain that the bit rate you enter is actually the bit rate being recorded. Check the file description in the file output name box near the bottom of the page. You have to either unlock the bitrate; change it then lock it again or else enter the average bit rate via the settings tab next to the rate control mode box, otherwise the bit rate will default to 1150.

A good idea when desperate is to open the guide on line and read it word for word while setting TMPGEnc. It's amazing how easy it is to miss some crucial setting or other.

Anyway, I have managed transfer several full length movies to single (74min) CD's and play them back on my Pioneer DV-350. The picture quality (at 432x240) has been at least equal to those made on my S-VHS recorder and my frends refuse to believe I'm using ordinary CD blanks. Sound-synch is slightly problematic but then it is also with commercial DVD's (check out the letterboxed side of Forbidden Planet). It's a measure of just how convincing the picture quality is that I even notice minor sound synch problems.

[EnNiS]

hey
can u use this guide but using CQ instead of CBR???
thanx

[Xoanon]

How do I fit one SVCD movie on one CD (i.e. an XSVCD) but with two audio tracks ripped from the DVD?

[bizeebee]

I have used this guide several times and it has always worked for me. Thank you for taking the time to post the guide. I know it took a lot of work and it is very much appreciated.

[kaaabooooom]

ive gone threw the fitting a vcd onto one disk page a few times and each time i cant get it to change the file size.,...it stays the same no matter wut i change...i have changed to mpeg non standard and that dosnt work for me either before i formatted my machine i did manage to do it but now i cant any ideas? or would someone mail me their template for fittin it onto one cd so i can go from there? Kaaabooooom@utchat.com thanks

[ZippyP.]

If you're using TMPGEnc v.2.59, apparently it has a bug that won't let you change the filesize. Try a different version if that's the case.

[EnNiS]

yeh i had thej same prob
search the net for tmpg 2.58
it will work good
peace

[DKruskie]

Has anyone gotten the full blue bar like it shows in the guide, because I sure havent. If ya have how do ya do it?

David