The newbies guide to fitting a movie on one CD using TMPGEnc

[newbie29]

I recently downloaded TMPGEnc 2.59 not knowing it had a bug. But since now I know that it has a bug, and will not allow anyone to have the option of the "fit on one CD", how do I obtain the 2.58 version??? ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

[ZippyP.]

Try here:
http://www.downseek.com/download/21222.asp

[konig205]

i have one problem. when i go to load the .dv2 file as the video source in TMPGEnc's wizard's second step, it says the file "can not open, or unsupported". the audio source works fine however. where did i go wrong????

Thanx ahead of time

[VCD-ONE-CD]

Hi..I need help.
I have a movie on avi decoded by divx. i used the guide word by word.
but each time i convert it to mpeg the file gets in the same size.
it doesnt matter what bitrate i use.
i use the MPeg-1 non normal vcd.

please help!
thanks

[newbie29]

To answer the question to VCD-ONE-CD...what version of TMPGEnc are you using? I had the same problem until I found out that there's a bug in version 2.59. You have to use version 2.58 for it to work.


NOW 4 MY QUESTION. ANYONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO HELP, PLEASE DO.
I downloaded a movie in .avi format, and when I opened it 2 play it, the player says that it is 2 hours and however long...but it only plays about 5 minutes of it. I would really hate to have to delete this because the quality is EXCELLENT. Anyways, I tried using DivFix, but that didn't work. I did the check for errors, strip index, rebuild index...it didn't work. Is there a fix to this????[/quote]

[venustail]

Hi there....I followed everything on your guide on how to put one film on cd. It's a .avi file, (dont know if that makes a difference). I have tried it twice - once with cbr and then with 2 pass vbr. The first time it read that my estimated mpeg size would be 778.53mb at 99% the resulting mpeg was 1.5 gb (wow) lol. Vbr one was the 786.60mb the file size turned out at 1.6 gb. Can you tell me what the problem is cause I really like the idea of not having to jump up half way through a film to change the cd. Your guide is really easy to follow. Hope I can get it to work for me. Thanxs in advance.

[RipperDude]

Hi, I'm a total newbie when it comes to compiling DVD's and had a go at your guide. I've overlooked it several times and as far as I can see I followed it to the letter. I've tried to convert an AVI DivX file to an MPG file that would fit on one 80 min CD-rom. When I adjusted the filesize to 100% it came up with a filesize of 786 MB, but after the conversion I was left with a filesize of 1074 MB. I've gone through the earlier replies here and I've seen similar problems, though my stream type IS set to MPEG-1 Video-CD (non-standard). By the way when I encoded the file using TMPGEnc I frameserved subtitles in it with VirtualDub (in which I succeeded), although I don't think this has anything to do with it or does it? I wonder where I've gone wrong and am hoping that you could give me any suggestions. I would be grateful since I would very much like to fit movies on one VCD. Thanks on forehand and for your great site which has already been a big help to me.

[Krell]

About TMPGEnc 2.59 had a bug that the encoded file size doesn't change when you change the bit rate with MPEG-1 Video-CD (non-standard) Stream type, you should try MPEG-1 System (automatic) Stream type to solve the problem. Hope this could help.

[kwag]

@ All,

You can use TMPEG 2.59, but make sure you encode as "ES (Video only)".
If you encode as "System (Video only)", your file size will be huge. Hopefully, Pegasys Inc. will fix this in the next release.

-kwag

[pmaizitis]

I have one lame question but how does one integrate the audio with the video files into one MPEG if you use video only. This would help me fantastically as I still prefer the audio through bbsweet as opposed to TMPG or the SCMPX.EXE tool plugin.
Thanks for the tips so far ...

[kwag]

I have one lame question but how does one integrate the audio with the video files into one MPEG if you use video only. This would help me fantastically as I still prefer the audio through bbsweet as opposed to TMPG or the SCMPX.EXE tool plugin.
Thanks for the tips so far ...

Use BBMpeg to mux your audio and video streams together.

-kwag

[pmaizitis]

Hi kwag:
Thanks for the suggestion on the muxing with bbmpeg. I had a copy from DVD2SVCD but it appears to crash and burn as a standalone, especially when I attempt to open the VS or other streams.
I use DVD2SVCD with TMPG 2.58 encoding for my SVCD burns to one or more discs making sure that the audio is 224/44.1. From those ripped and converted files I use the DV2 file for video and the MP2 file for audio and can make one disc thru TMPG 2.58, usually with audio at 128/44.1/joint stereo with some success. I use CBR in both cases.
I would like to use DVD2SVCD thru TMPG to make one disc (mainly due to audio issues, i.e. DVD player compatibility issues with TMPG) however had not had success. DVD2SVCD uses bbmpeg successfully to mux the video file encoded by TMPG and the great sounding and fully compatible mp2 file by bbsweet.
Suggestions on one VCD thru DVD2SVCD using TMPG as encoder? I know its all related to the bitrate settings in DVD2SVCD which then should drive TMPG to make one VCD.
Thanks again and great KVCD templates!

[kwag]

Hi kwag:
Thanks for the suggestion on the muxing with bbmpeg. I had a copy from DVD2SVCD but it appears to crash and burn as a standalone, especially when I attempt to open the VS or other streams.

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1967

-kwag

[RipperDude]

Thanks Krill and Kwag for your replies. I managed to bring my filesize down to 802 MB (783 MB according to Nero) using MPEG-1 System (automatic) Stream type and am trying to overburn an 80 min. CD-rom right now (Nero stated that the file didn't fit on one CD). One other question I have is about the message that came up when I started the burning simulation. Nero stated that the file I try to burn isn't properly encoded for VCD and started to re-encode the file. Now I've read somewhere here that Nero isn't such a good encoder and I really wouldn't want to lose any more quality. Is there a way to overcome this? I've encoded the file using my own template in TMPGEnc 2.59. Wonder if ayone can say anything about this, I'll apreciate it thanks.

[pmaizitis]

The problem here is if you did not stay with the standard for VCD (or SVCD) Nero will attempt to convert it to standard compliance in the Express screen. You can go to the ROM screen and turn off standard compliance and bypass the Nero encode but then you could have issues with player compatibity.

I agree, the Nero encoder is one of the poorest I have seen quality-wise.

Some of the video standards I read on this site (under Video CD) show 352x240 or 352x288 for VCD and 480x480 or 480x576 for SVCD. Also is a factor of bitrate (1150 max for MPEG-1 for VCD) for the standard compliance. These examples would apply to NTSC ... PAL would have its own standard compliance.
Audio standrad compliance is 44.1, 224 bitrate but Nero should accept lower bitrates even under the express screen.
Take care,

[VCD-ONE-CD]

Hi everyone!

I burnt a movie on one CD using the article here. Nero burnt it with no problem and i followed the instructions exectly. when I entered th Cd to my DVD player, it recognized it but when i played the film, there seemed to be a lot of jumping in the video and the audio.
does any one know how can i solve this problem?

thanks in advenced
bye.

[pmaizitis]

Some of the factors that effected playback of my one VCD adevetures mainly hinged around deviating too far from the VCD or SVCD standard compliance. I also tried the VCDs and SVCDs in different standalone machines. Typically the computer DVD player (in my case - WINDVD)played everything while the others varied in playback results, examples:
1. My LV-70 only played VCDs and was sporadic with SVCDs ... reason ... LV-70 was nolt designed to play the SVCDs ... probably due to drive speed but I am no expert on that.
2. My Malata N996 had some VCDs and SVCDs (mostly) that were sporadic in mostly audio due to deviations from the compliance standard for the VCDs/SVCDs.
3. I just purchased a Philips DVD 724 which apperas to play everything thrown at it so far flawlessly.

Some of the forums showed that burn rate was a factor ... so you may wish to watch the speed rating on your drive and the CDR media. I had Kingsington media that was rated for 8X but would finally burn correctly with no major issues in a CDR burner in a Sony Vaio GRX 550.

Some one in a past resone to me suggested to try your different settings on one burned disc and see what results you have. Suggest encoding a short minute or two segment to evaluate through TMPG/Nero.

[crack_man]

Ok,I didn´t rip a dvd so I just went straight to encode my movie to mpg using TMPGEnc with the right template.
I have the newest version of TMPG (v.2.59).

First I make a wave from the movie using Virtual Dub.
Then I load up the One Disc VCD template.I load up my movie and audio source.I used the wave on audio source.My movie size is 103 minutes and 17 seconds long so I had to lower my bitrate to 822 to fit one CD.

I did that and the estimated file size was 768,45MB.When I then encoded the whole movie the file was not 768,45MB,it was around 1GB.
What the hell went wrong?I have also tried to encode 1 minute just for test,and the outputting mpg was more than 1MB more than it said it would be in TMPGEnc.

[pmaizitis]

Per early prior posts ... file size/length is a minor bug issue per TMPGENC tech support.

Suggest using the earlier 2.58 version until they fix the bug ... per early post by ZippyP ... this should be at: http://www.downseek.com/download/21222.asp

.... and avoid hitting the stupid popup "security alert".

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[crack_man]

OK I will try.

[crack_man]

YIPPE it worked.Thanx for telling me that.It´s good that it´s nice peolple here who are willing to share knowledge with each other.

[mrj03]

YIPPE it worked.Thanx for telling me that.It´s good that it´s nice peolple here who are willing to share knowledge with each other.

Im using Ver 2.56 Plus is that ok?? What difference does the PLUS ver make??

[crack_man]

YIPPE it worked.Thanx for telling me that.It´s good that it´s nice peolple here who are willing to share knowledge with each other.

Im using Ver 2.56 Plus is that ok?? What difference does the PLUS ver make??

I got no idea but I suggegst that you upgrade your TMPGEnc to Ver 2.58, not the newest Ver 2.59 cause the newest version have a bug in it which will make your outputting mpg size much bigger.
You can download Ver 2.58 here:
http://www.downseek.com/download/21222.asp

[mrj03]

YIPPE it worked.Thanx for telling me that.It´s good that it´s nice peolple here who are willing to share knowledge with each other.

Im using Ver 2.56 Plus is that ok?? What difference does the PLUS ver make??

I got no idea but I suggegst that you upgrade your TMPGEnc to Ver 2.58, not the newest Ver 2.59 cause the newest version have a bug in it which will make your outputting mpg size much bigger.
You can download Ver 2.58 here:
http://www.downseek.com/download/21222.asp

I tried to D/L that file and got an error message..... I'll try again later unless you know where else to get it.

[crack_man]

TRy this link nut it is not a englesh site so I don´t understand a shit,nut if you scroll down you will see TMPGEnc 2.58.Install it.
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/iizuka/news/news0210.shtml

[mrj03]

TRy this link nut it is not a englesh site so I don´t understand a shit,nut if you scroll down you will see TMPGEnc 2.58.Install it.
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/iizuka/news/news0210.shtml

It just sends you to the TMPGE homepage where they ONLY have 2.59
thanks anyway for trying.....

[crack_man]

TRy this link nut it is not a englesh site so I don´t understand a shit,nut if you scroll down you will see TMPGEnc 2.58.Install it.
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/iizuka/news/news0210.shtml

It just sends you to the TMPGE homepage where they ONLY have 2.59
thanks anyway for trying.....

[syberianfish]

the audio is always out of sync with the video, how can i solve this prob??
yes, i am a newbie...

[Macabren]

For everyone having audio trouble when playing a VCD (or SVCD) in their DVD player, but not when played on your computer. You need to try this and see if it solves your problem.

I was having the exact same problem and found Nero to be the culprit. Instead of using Nero to convert the mpeg file to a VCD/SVCD compliant disc. Use VCDEasy(freeware) to make a bin/cue image (No cd writer selected) of your mpeg file. THEN use Nero to burn it to disc with the bin/cue image. I know it seems like extra work, but I have never had an audio problem in my DVD player since doing this method for burning VCD and SVCD.

But every time I use Nero to convert the mpeg into a VCD/SVCD compliant disc and burn it at the same time. At some point in the movie (if not from the begining), I always have audio synch problems.

Also chapters are very simple to add in VCDEasy. So no more fast forwarding through half a movie if you have to start over. Just put in alot of chapters and forward to a chapter right before you left off. I think you can also do this in Nero, but with the audio problems, who cares. There are guides on this site for adding chapters and menus using VCDEasy if you do not figure it out.

[Macabren]

Just to add and simplify what I said above.

VCDEasy seems to convert the mpeg file to a VCD/SVCD compliant format better than Nero can. Atleast for my DVD player. I have a older Apex AD-1600 that can play SVCD, VCD and the mpeg file itself. And as stated above, it has audio synch problems when playing back SVCD or VCD that have been converted by Nero.

Also you can burn straight to disc in VCDEasy as well, but I prefer to use Nero for the burning part.