DVD ripped & played on 16:9 TV but with horizontal black lines

[feelart]

Hye,

I miss a point to solve this.

I ripped some of my DVDs on HDD to play them directly on my FullHD SmartTV via the USB HDD and no more through DVD player.

Now, my Smart TV (16:9) supports only 2 zoom mode from an USB source.
Some films play full screen, while other have 2 black horizal pad.

I thought that this is a SAR and DAR issue, but when I look at some files I'm lost, as they show identical SAR & DAR.
Are the results from ffmpeg 1.0 and MediaInfo 0.7.60

Size SAR DAR PAR(=DAR/SAR) Samsung TV Film Video_TS Format
720x576 1,06666666666667 1,33333333333333 1,25 OK Anastasia VTS_01_1 PAL
720x576 1,42222222222222 1,77777777777778 1,25 2 Black Lines Anastasia VTS_02_1 PAL
720x576 1,42222222222222 1,77777777777778 1,25 2 Black Lines Arthur3 VTS_05_1
720x576 1,42222222222222 1,77777777777778 1,25 OK Balto VTS_01_1 PAL
720x576 1,42222222222222 1,77777777777778 1,25 OK Barbie Coeur de P VTS_02_0.VOB PAL
720x576 1,06666666666667 1,33333333333333 1,25 2 Black Lines Barbie Coeur de P VTS_05_1.VOB PAL

Which point do I missed ???

Thanks

P.S.
I tried these on a film showing with 2 black horizontal lines, but still no change.
ffmpeg -i VTS_02_1.vob -c:a copy -c:v mpeg2video -sameq -async 1 -aspect 4:3 VTS_02_1reCoded.vob
ffmpeg -i VTS_02_1.vob -c:a copy -c:v mpeg2video -sameq -async 1 -vf setsar=16:15 -aspect 4:3 VTS_02_1-test.vob

[manono]

Unless a film is of the exact same ratio as your TV set (1.78:1), it's supposed to have black bars, either on the sides (for 1.33:1 films) or above and below (for 2.35:1 films). Most films aren't the ratio of your TV set and have one or the other. In the case of Anastasia (and Author 3), it's a 2.35:1 film and is supposed to have the horizontal black bars.

You don't seem to be claiming they're playing stretched (circles showing as ovals), so I don't think you're creating them incorrectly.

[feelart]

You don't seem to be claiming they're playing stretched (circles showing as ovals), so I don't think you're creating them incorrectly.

I didn't create them, they've been ripped from my original DVDs.

All I try to figure out, is why all show unstreched, but some full screen, while other with horizontal black lines.

either on the sides (for 1.33:1 films)

They are no side black bars, that's what puzzle me.

In the case of Anastasia (and Author 3), it's a 2.35:1 film and is supposed to have the horizontal black bars.

How do you come to this??

But now I believe that neither ffmpeg nor MediaInfo do show actual SAR & DAR
Indeed, if I select "show as original" on my TV(1980x1080), Anastasia & Arthur3 appear as a tiny 16/9, while Balto appears as tiny 1:1 film
That seems the key, the actual SAR would be different that the reported one.

[manono]

in the case of anastasia (and author 3), it's a 2.35:1 film and is supposed to have the horizontal black bars.

how do you come to this??

imdb.

[feelart]

Outside ffmpeg how can check or modify SAR?

[manono]

These are from DVDs, right? There are only 2 possible DARs, 4:3 or 16:9. Outside of that, you can crop away the black and do a 1:1 resize to find the true aspect ratio. I use Gordian Knot for such things although there are other ways, I'm sure.

Look, open your VOBs in something where you can see them. I use DGIndex, which also gives the DAR of the video. If you have a 16:9 DVD and there are still black bars on the top and bottom then you can be sure the movie is wider than your TV set's ratio of 1.78:1 and you're supposed to view the video/DVD with black bars above and below (unless you use the TV set's zoom function). If the DVD is 4:3, then you're always supposed to see black bars on the sides of a 16:9 TV set (and sometimes above and below too, if it's widescreen 4:3), unless you use the remote control to zoom the video.