Need help with video size bigger than 720x576

[David Banner]

When I try to play an avi from USB on my stand alone bluray LG BD 350 I get this message "video size bigger than 720x576". I googled a couple of treads with similar issues but do not understand. Should be able to reduce the size. ?

The avi file size is 1.7GB

Any help much appreciated

[aedipuss]

avi is a general name for a container. it can have lots of different types of video in it. install the free mediainfo, set it to text mode, and open your avi with it. copy/paste the complete text mode results here.

[jman98]

Your video has a resolution too large for what your player supports. You will have to re-encode to get it to a smaller resolution. Install MediaInfo as suggested so we can understand what you really have and then we can suggest the easiest way to re-encode it.

By the way, the "video size" in the message has nothing to do with file size. LG really should have used the term "resolution" instead in the message.

[David Banner]

okm thanks both here it is

General
Complete name : C:\Users\xxxxxxxxx
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.71 GiB
Duration : 2h 12mn
Overall bit rate : 1 848 Kbps

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP : 1
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : DX50
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 5
Duration : 2h 12mn
Bit rate : 1 646 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 544 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.099
Stream size : 1.53 GiB (89%)
Title : Video
Writing library : DivX 3330

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 2h 12mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 182 MiB (10%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Title : Audio

[videobruger]

Here is the spec from your manual.



Your file use a Divx 5 video codec which is only supported to 720x576 so if you want the higher resolution you could re-encode with Handbrake or similar

[aedipuss]

Muxing mode : Packed bitstream

hardly anything will play this except a computer. i'd re-encode it to mp4 - try vidcoder. the size(resolution) should play fine on a lg bd. they play up to 1920x1080.

[johns0]

No need to re-encode,just change the 4cc to xvid.The 4cc changer is included in the xvid when you install the codecs.If it cant play it due to the packed bitstream then it needs to be re-encoded.

[jagabo]

If changing the fourcc doesn't work try remuxing into an MP4 container.

[johns0]

Also you can use MPEG4 Modifier to remove the packed bitstream if its an issue.

[David Banner]

No need to re-encode,just change the 4cc to xvid.The 4cc changer is included in the xvid when you install the codecs.If it cant play it due to the packed bitstream then it needs to be re-encoded.

where do i do that? Tried changing res on player but it made no difference

[videobruger]

where do i do that?

There's a small program AviC that allows you to do that



Replace the DX50 with XVID and see if it will play on your LG player. Else you'll need to re-encode.

Tried changing res on player but it made no difference

No because your player only has 720x576 for Divx codecs whereas it has 1920x1080 for Xvid.

[David Banner]

where do i do that?

There's a small program AviC that allows you to do that


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Replace the DX50 with XVID and see if it will play on your LG player. Else you'll need to re-encode.

Tried changing res on player but it made no difference

No because your player only has 720x576 for Divx codecs whereas it has 1920x1080 for Xvid.

thanks

[jman98]

If it cant play it due to the packed bitstream then it needs to be re-encoded.

This is not correct. You can unpack bitstreams on AVI files without re-encoding. MPEG4 Modifier in our tools section can do this.

[jman98]

Tried changing res on player but it made no difference

What do you mean exactly by that statement? Your previous posts have indicated that you are not very experienced and I have a feeling that you are incorrectly describing what you did. If you just pushed a Zoom button on your remote or changed between 4:3 and 16:9 then you really do not understand what needs to be done and how to do it.

[johns0]

If it cant play it due to the packed bitstream then it needs to be re-encoded.

This is not correct. You can unpack bitstreams on AVI files without re-encoding. MPEG4 Modifier in our tools section can do this.

Also you can use MPEG4 Modifier to remove the packed bitstream if its an issue.

Already posted that.

[aedipuss]

hehe. next time don't download an avi. make sure it's mp4.

[David Banner]

Tried changing res on player but it made no difference

What do you mean exactly by that statement? Your previous posts have indicated that you are not very experienced and I have a feeling that you are incorrectly describing what you did. If you just pushed a Zoom button on your remote or changed between 4:3 and 16:9 then you really do not understand what needs to be done and how to do it.

True I am not very experienced. But I did not just press zoom. On the remote there is a resolution button. By going into set up you can change the res

Go to the second link down here headed BD350 / BD355 - LG Electronics and open the pdf to page 15 and 16

[David Banner]

hehe. next time don't download an avi. make sure it's mp4.

avi usually works fine for me. First time I have seen that error

[videobruger]

On the remote there is a resolution button. By going into set up you can change the res .

So I supposed you did ..

avi usually works fine for me.

and avi in it self is not the problem. As already mentioned avi is merely a container and it's whats in it that's your problem. In your case it's video encoded as Divx. Your player don't support higher resolution than 720x576 for this encoding.

As been suggeted this easiest way to fix this is to change the 4cc from DX50 to XVID as these are (almost) identical encodings and your player support higher reolution for Xvid than for Divx. If this fails to work you'll have to rencode the video.

[David Banner]

On the remote there is a resolution button. By going into set up you can change the res .

So I supposed you did ..

avi usually works fine for me.

and avi in it self is not the problem. As already mentioned avi is merely a container and it's whats in it that's your problem. In your case it's video encoded as Divx. Your player don't support higher resolution than 720x576 for this encoding.

As been suggeted this easiest way to fix this is to change the 4cc from DX50 to XVID as these are (almost) identical encodings and your player support higher reolution for Xvid than for Divx. If this fails to work you'll have to rencode the video.

On the remote there is a resolution button. By going into set up you can change the res

that was in reply to jman98 who wrote

I have a feeling that you are incorrectly describing what you did. If you just pushed a Zoom button on your remote or changed between 4:3 and 16:9 then you really do not understand what needs to be done and how to do it.

[Cornucopia]

In a sense, the "zoom button" and "resolution button" are the same thing.

Files come in at different resolution settings, and for your machine there are certain limits. For files encoded with one of the DivX codecs, that maximum allowable/supported input resolution is SD (720x576), whereas with most all the other codecs the maximum is HD (1920x1080). This you cannot change.
The only thing you can change is:
1. Whether your device considers it Xvid vs DivX when it reads the file (this is what that fourcc changer would assist with) .
2. What kind of file is encoded (by re-encoding, if necessary).
3. The output size sent to the TV/display (this is the "resolution" or "zoom" button).

Note that with that last one, you might be "blowing up" the size from SD to HD, but the quality will ALWAYS be SD.

My suggestion to you about the use of the resolution button: if it is SD material, set the button to 576p, if it is HD material, set it to 1080p. It probably won't LOOK like it is making any difference (particularly if your TV is set to "Auto" resize).

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Have you had any results from trying the AVIC fourcc changer yet?

Scott

[David Banner]

In a sense, the "zoom button" and "resolution button" are the same thing.

Files come in at different resolution settings, and for your machine there are certain limits. For files encoded with one of the DivX codecs, that maximum allowable/supported input resolution is SD (720x576), whereas with most all the other codecs the maximum is HD (1920x1080). This you cannot change.
The only thing you can change is:
1. Whether your device considers it Xvid vs DivX when it reads the file (this is what that fourcc changer would assist with) .
2. What kind of file is encoded (by re-encoding, if necessary).
3. The output size sent to the TV/display (this is the "resolution" or "zoom" button).

Note that with that last one, you might be "blowing up" the size from SD to HD, but the quality will ALWAYS be SD.

My suggestion to you about the use of the resolution button: if it is SD material, set the button to 576p, if it is HD material, set it to 1080p. It probably won't LOOK like it is making any difference (particularly if your TV is set to "Auto" resize).

*********************

Have you had any results from trying the AVIC fourcc changer yet?

Scott

Thanks. Very informative

My suggestion to you about the use of the resolution button: if it is SD material, set the button to 576p, if it is HD material, set it to 1080p. It probably won't LOOK like it is making any difference (particularly if your TV is set to "Auto" resize).

any change I tried such as 576p etc I got the same message "video size bigger than 720x576"

Have you had any results from trying the AVIC fourcc changer yet?

not had time yet too busy

[jman98]

The reason any change you tried has given you the same message is that you are NOT actually changing the resolution of the source video file by pushing ANY button on your remote. As Cornucopia points out, it's basically a confusing label for "zoom". And your refusal to accept the reality that your SOURCE video is the one that MUST change and that this change CANNOT be done via your TV or your BD player is not helping matters. You have no choice but you must copy the video to a PC and make a change to it there or you will continue to have failure.

You've been told what to do. It's up to you now.

[David Banner]

The reason any change you tried has given you the same message is that you are NOT actually changing the resolution of the source video file by pushing ANY button on your remote. As Cornucopia points out, it's basically a confusing label for "zoom". And your refusal to accept the reality that your SOURCE video is the one that MUST change and that this change CANNOT be done via your TV or your BD player is not helping matters. You have no choice but you must copy the video to a PC and make a change to it there or you will continue to have failure.

You've been told what to do. It's up to you now.

And your refusal to accept the reality that your SOURCE video is the one that MUST change and that this change CANNOT be done via your TV or your BD player is not helping matters.

Never said i refused to believe anything. I already have it on the computer and it plays in VLC

[Cornucopia]

But playing it ok in VLC doesn't correct it to where you can see it with your BD player & TV, and VLC has no such restrictions on resolution per codec, so it's not a good reference regarding BD playability.

Fix the source first.

(In that list of things to change, #3 was not meant as an solution option instead/prior of trying #1 and/or #2).

Scott

[David Banner]

where do i do that?

There's a small program AviC that allows you to do that


[Attachment 14032 - Click to enlarge]

Replace the DX50 with XVID and see if it will play on your LG player. Else you'll need to re-encode.

Tried changing res on player but it made no difference

No because your player only has 720x576 for Divx codecs whereas it has 1920x1080 for Xvid.

That worked! The avi now plays on my Blu Ray player complete with subs and the picture is very good. Thanks very much. Thanks for other sugggestion too folks

[David Banner]

In a sense, the "zoom button" and "resolution button" are the same thing.

Files come in at different resolution settings, and for your machine there are certain limits. For files encoded with one of the DivX codecs, that maximum allowable/supported input resolution is SD (720x576), whereas with most all the other codecs the maximum is HD (1920x1080). This you cannot change.
The only thing you can change is:
1. Whether your device considers it Xvid vs DivX when it reads the file (this is what that fourcc changer would assist with) .
2. What kind of file is encoded (by re-encoding, if necessary).
3. The output size sent to the TV/display (this is the "resolution" or "zoom" button).

Note that with that last one, you might be "blowing up" the size from SD to HD, but the quality will ALWAYS be SD.

My suggestion to you about the use of the resolution button: if it is SD material, set the button to 576p, if it is HD material, set it to 1080p. It probably won't LOOK like it is making any difference (particularly if your TV is set to "Auto" resize).

*********************

Have you had any results from trying the AVIC fourcc changer yet?

Scott

Yes! It worked, thanks

[videobruger]

Just to be precise for others.

what worked for you ? Avic ?

[David Banner]

Just to be precise for others.

what worked for you ? Avic ?

Yes.Sorry was not clear