Do Avisynth and Premiere work well on Windows 7?

[spicediver10191]

My setup:

• Windows XP 32-bit
• Avisynth
• DGIndex and DGAAVCIndex
• Adobe Premiere CS3
• VirtualDub
• Authoring apps Staxrip and Encore CS3

My hardware is coming up for replacement, and I'm considering moving from XP to:

Windows 7 32bit
or
Windows 7 64 bit

Was wondering how the combo of above video apps work with these OS?

Particularly Avisynth frameserving into Premiere CS3 using the AVS plugin.

[Selur]

I use 32bit Avisynth, DGIndex and Virtual Dub on Windows 7 64bit for quite some time now without a problem.

[sanlyn]

I'd suggest checking on Adobe or the authoring apps. Many video apps won't work in Win7, whether 64- or 32-bit. Like Win7's "improvements", there's no rhyme or reason to what works and what doesn't, you have to check each app. Don't throw away your XP -- even an old XP setup makes a good upgrade to Win7 (after you finish tearing your hair out). I keep my XP's for capture, and for running all the good stuff that won't run in Vista/Win7.

Following the dictates of Hollywood fascists, new operating systems, software, and hardware are increasing their efforts to prevent users from making their own videos other than crappy bone-headed toy videos for the visually impaired that you get with phony apps like WMM. If Hollywood itself didn't use products like 64-bit AfterEffects Pro, I wouldn't be surprised to see Windows try to make consumers stop using them as well.

[Selur]

Many video apps won't work in Win7, whether 64- or 32-bit.

Care to name some examples? For me all my Video Applications worked fine under Windows 7.

[spicediver10191]

Well Premiere CS3 is one I'd like to know about. Does that run on Windows 7 32 and/or 64bit?

[jman98]

DGIndex, VirtualDub and AviSynth are working for me on Win 7 64 bit. DGAAVCIndex should work but as I have not personally used it, I cannot give you any personal experience here. But I know of no reason why it wouldn't work. However, I strongly recommend that you use the 32 bit AviSynth and not the 64 bit one. The 64 bit one does work, but it has very few filters. I've used it successfully, but I've ended up using the 32 bit one regularly because the filters I need don't seem to exist on the 64 bit one yet.

[sanlyn]

Well Premiere CS3 is one I'd like to know about. Does that run on Windows 7 32 and/or 64bit?

For Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 an 64-bit, Microsoft suggests an upgrade.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-gb/Browse.aspx?type=Softwa...v=Adobe&page=3

Win7/32, I don't know. My AfterEffects CS3 won't run properly in 64-bit and some of its plugins won't work. That happened in 32-bit Vista as well. I paid over $500 for some of those plugins (Sorry, Microsoft, my answer is the same as your answer: eat it and like it.). Many TMPGenc products have problems in 64-bit. If my old Photoshop 2000 constantly screws up in Vista 32-bit, it sure won't work in win7/64. None of my ATI AllInWonders will install in new machines, because motherboards that can use Win7 don't have AGP slots. I hear that the software that comes with some of Hauppauge's HD-PVR's have problems in Win7/64.

Anyone who hasn't experienced or heard of compatibility problems with Vista/Win7 hasn't been paying attention. Many people have expensive software and hardware that they won't discard just so they can see side panel gadgets on their desktop.

For those who haven't asked, I have two Win7 machines (one 32-bit, one 64). I don't use them often. IMHO the interface design is dumb, klutzy, and a pain in the neck.

[spicediver10191]

You know, I might just stick to XP on my next desktop PC.

I like using CS3 Premiere and After Effects - I have loads of projects made on those versions and have no intention of upgrading at this point.

I actually do have Windows 7 on a laptop, and as an OS I've never liked using it myself much either.

[jagabo]

I have two Win7 machines (one 32-bit, one 64). I don't use them often. IMHO the interface design is dumb, klutzy, and a pain in the neck.

Just wait until you try Win8!

Regarding Win7 32/64 bit:

Most of the software that doesn't work in Win7 is software that deals directly with hardware. Usually because device drivers aren't available. Some non-hardware related programs can be made to work with different workarounds, often a special installation procedure. But there are a few programs that simply don't work. Old 16 bit DOS and Windows 3 programs don't work. But those can often be run in an emulator like DosBox or VirtualBox.

64 bit Win7 has more issues than 32 bit Win7 because 32 bit programs run in a virtual machine (and not all programs are available in 64 bit versions). The main benefit of 64 bit Windows is the ability to use more memory, not execution speed. Few programs require more memory than 32 bit Windows can provide (2 to 3 GB depending on setup) but if you run several memory hungry programs at once 64 bit helps.

The 32 bit versions of AviSynth, VirtualDub, and DgMpgDec all work properly in 64 bit Win7. Keep in mind that when using 64 bit Windows 32 bit and 64 bit programs run in completely separate environments. So 32 bit VirtualDub requires 32 bit AviSynth, 32 bit DgMpgDec, 32 bit filters, and 32 bit codecs. The 32 bit and 64 bit versions can both be installed but they cannot "see" each other.

I don't use Premiere but Adobe says this:

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/faq.html

On Windows, the CS6 versions of Adobe Premiere Pro, After Effects, SpeedGrade, and Encore require a 64-bit edition of Microsoft® Windows 7.

So you won't be able to update if you run 32 bit Win7.

[spicediver10191]

Thanks Jagabo. That's really helpful.

I think I'll try Win 7 32 bit then. I can't see a practical use for 64 bit given my needs and current app versions (eg. not until CS5 can Premiere and AE actually use the extra RAM that 64 bit makes possible). I can always revert to XP if my fave apps don't co-operate.

[jman98]

I can always revert to XP if my fave apps don't co-operate.

That really shouldn't be necessary. I am using 64 bit Win 7 and the number of programs I had that I couldn't get to run under it was very small, maybe 5 or less. With only one exception I was able to get those programs to run in the free XP virtual machine that Win 7 allows Ultimate users to download for free. I found a replacement program for the 1 program I couldn't get to work in the VM. If you use the 32 bit Win 7 I suspect that you'll never find a reason to go back to XP.

[sanlyn]

The only reason I need to stay with XP are two AllInWonder AGP's. Maybe you can find a new motherboard/CPU that has an AGP slot and can Run Win7. Except fthat I might be able to run with 16GB of RAM (I only need 2 at the most), I don't see that it's worth that much trouble. Meanwhile I'm using my 64-bit W7 laptop with its 8GB RAM and 500GB laptop for email, for chrissake.