Burn NRG DVD image to Blu ray

[profsoumya]

I have Nero 10 Multimedia Suite and have copied several DVDs as NRG files to my HDD using Disc Copy in Start Smart. All these images are bigger than 4.7GB, so I decided to burn one of these images to DVD+R DL. What I did not realize is that my blu ray dvd player does not support DL discs. So I decided to use a BD-R disc. But during burn Nero 10 gave an error message saying that the compilation is incompatible with the media. On contacting Nero support by email they responded that I cannot burn a DVD image to a blu ray disc.

I am not trying to create a HD movie. I am simply trying to burn a DVD movie to blu ray. Why should Nero 10 prevent me from doing that? Further support from Nero was not forthcoming. Hope someone can help me out here. What am I doing wrong?

[jman98]

Your BluRay player actually probably DOES support DVD DL discs, but it probably does NOT support the cheap piece of crap DL discs you bought. If you bought anything except Verbatim DVD+R DL then you bought garbage and wasted your money. While some years ago it was possible to find DVD players that didn't support ANY consumer burnable DL media, I've never heard of a BluRay player that really couldn't play consumer burnable DVD DL discs. But I have heard of players that won't play the crappy ones. Unfortunately in the USA Verbatim is the only manufacturer of non-crap DL discs.

What is wrong is that you are operating under assumptions that are not correct. Let me give you an example. If you went out to pitch in a baseball game and went out with a basketball, you would not be operating under the rules for baseball would you? No you would not. DVD format cannot be placed on non-DVD discs. DVD format is for DVD discs only. Sorry, but that's how it is.

[FulciLives]

What is the exact model number and make of your blu-ray player?

[profsoumya]

My dvd player is Samsung BD-D5700. I checked the user manual - it does not support DL discs.

jman98, Thanks for your response. My point is I should be able to burn a DVD image to blu ray and the blu ray player should be able to play it as a DVD movie. After all a blu ray disc is nothing but an optical medium that a blu ray player can read and the nrg file format contains all the information required to encode a DVD movie.

[Noahtuck]

I just went to the samsung website and downloaded the manual for your player and it does NOT say it does NOT support DL media.

Disc types your player cannot play
• HD DVD
• DVD-ROM/PD/MVDisc,
etc
• DVD-RAM
• Super Audio CD
(except CD layer)
• DVD-RW(VR mode)
• CVD/CD-ROM/CDV/
CD-G/CD-I/LD
(CD-Gs play audio only,
not graphics.)
• 3.9 GB DVD-R Disc for
Authoring.

And if that player does not support DL+R media, as I am sure it will play DL DVD's, then you got a whopping POS!!
I have dvd players that are 15 years old and will play DL+R media.
I would bet $$ it will play DL+R media as long as it is good media and burned correctly.

And you are obviously missing the point.

Just because YOU think something should work, does not make it so.
After all, a CD is optical medium so burning a CD Image to a DVD disc should play back as a CD

It reminds me of the people that would come here wondering why their CD burner or player would not read a DVD because they were both the same size disc or why they could not burn CD audio to a DVDR and play it in their CD players!

[Trippedout]

I know nothing about BluRay but if ive had a problem with media in the past ive just updated firmware for drive from Manufactures web site and that sorted it out if thats what it is but as i say i dont know much on the subject.

[Steve(MS)]

So it is possible that the iso that nero makes is not standard, thereby making an unplayable disc?

You can put dvd contents in blu-ray but you must properly wrap it first.
In fact, I think the new version BD Rebuilder will do it.

[Noahtuck]

Oy Vey

[stiltman]

I would extract the nrg file with something like winimage
Then I would use imgburn to burn the files to a good DL DVD

[Cornucopia]

There are a couple of issues here:

1. Media playability in given players. Noahtuck is completely correct about the DL media. It is clear from the manual that even though it doesn't specifically mention DL, it DOES accept them. (BTW, reading the manual makes me want a Samsung product even less!)

2. Ability to burn disc images on non-native media. While human logic would dictate that it should be possible. Strict computer logic tells us that it isn't always possible. And I'm not talking about CD-DA vs. DVD, etc. That is a red herring, as CD-DA uses a completely different user-sector size than most Data discs (CD-ROM, DVD, BD), as does (S)/VCD's Mode2Form2 sector size.
The problem is that many firmwares are not media agnostic - they will read the type of media (BD, DVD, CD) and give you only a strict subset of application options where they have determined it should be playable. It does not "mix & match". DVD-Video contents on a BD, or BDMV contents on a DVD (not counting AVCHD) would be prime examples. Exceptions to this might be the following...

3. Raw data files (in their MM containers) on a Data disc (be it CD,DVD or BD). But then you are not using the industry standard applications, you are using this particular brand's implementation of an auxilliary/bonus hardware feature. There is no guarantee that anything will work here - it's hit or miss.

4. Then there is whether a specific burning app will allow non-standard burning options #2 or #3. Nero often does not (for reasons I can't fathom other than to not allow something "nonstandard"). However, you can usually get around this by converting your NRG to a standard ISO (with the right tools) and burning using a different burning engine (like ImgBurn, a much better engine anyway).

Scott

[nic2k4]

Mount your NRG files with Virtual Clone Drive, then open Nero Recode and import the movie (it will be under its own drive letter). Click next and burn it to a single layer DVD.

I haven't used Virtual Clone Drive in a long time and can't remember if it can handle NRG for sure (Nero included Imagedrive with the version I have; it's not in 10), if it can't just follow this procedure.

[Noahtuck]

His profile says he has not even been here since his last post....

Last Activity 8th Sep 2012 23:55

[profsoumya]

Thanks for all your replies and suggestions.

I spoke to Samsung support and my blu ray player DOES support DL media although the manual does not mention it. So going back to my original problem, why does my DL disc not play on my blu ray player? I used Nero 10 Disc Copy to copy the original DVD movie to an NRG image on my HDD and then used Disc Copy again to burn the image to DVD+R DL disc. I have used a Verbatim disc and the burn wen t through successfully. There was no option in Disc Copy to finalize the disc, so I assumed it was finalized.

I have read through the suggestions and realize there are other software available to do the job. But since I have the Nero suite I see no reason to download more software to do something that should be a no-brainer. But obviously I'm missing something.

[Trippedout]

my nero 10 dosent suport blueray mite if i give them money same with mp3 got it with my drive and think i have to give them money to get them features so if thats the case you should listen to the chaps even go as far as saying my old nero 7 was better mite even put it in get rid of 10

[Noahtuck]

I used Nero 10 Disc Copy to copy the original DVD movie to an NRG image on my HDD and then used Disc Copy again to burn the image to DVD+R DL disc.

Problem #1

But since I have the Nero suite I see no reason to download more software to do something that should be a no-brainer.

Problem #2

But obviously I'm missing something.

Well, you never stated if these dvd's you are trying to copy are pressed retail disc's.
I will assume they are seeing as they are obviously over the single layer size.

Nero does NOT break, circumvent or remove copy protection so you are going to need something to do that little task.
And I would not ever waste my time or money by burning blank DL's using nero for dvd or bluray anything!!

[Steve(MS)]

I have read through the suggestions and realize there are other software available to do the job. But since I have the Nero suite I see no reason to download more software to do something that should be a no-brainer. But obviously I'm missing something.

Obviously.

[Cornucopia]

Someone needs to point out to him DVDDecrypter / AnyDVD / DVDFab. Oops, I just did!

Scott

[FulciLives]

Download DVDFab HD Decrypter which is in our tools section here. You'll get the whole DVDFab software which will work I think 100% for 30 days (or something like that) after which it stops working unless you pay. But you do not have to pay. After the allotted time everything stops working EXCEPT for the DVDFab HD Decrypter part, which is meant to be free, and this is the part that let's you rip a commercial DVD to your computer in such a way that the copy protection is not an issue (it basically removes the copy protection and region coding).

Once you have it ripped to your computer you can then do ... whatever ... with any number of programs (many of which are free).

However the first step is getting a clean and proper rip which is why you use DVDFab HD Decrypter (and yes there are other options but most of them if not all of them require payment).

[profsoumya]

Well I figured out part of the problem. The problem was with the original DVD disc itself. It would not play on my dvd players (I have two - one supports PAL and NTSC). The DVD cover did not specify PAL or NTSC, so I erroneously assumed NTSC.

I extracted the movie using Nero Recode and burnt to DL DVD. This time it played on the PAL player, not on the other one. The mystery is why the original DVD did not play on the PAL player. I'll figure it out some other time.

Thanks for all you replies and suggestions.

[Cornucopia]

This doesn't tell me that you've really fixed the problem at all (nor that it won't come back again).

Scott