program to superpose an animated image over a video?

[budwzr]

Quit stallin'

Yeah, it's weird how some of these editors can easily produce a comet and puffy clouds, but break down easily with text. Now THAT'S what you call defective.

Your media should be automatically conformed in the background as par for the course, not you have to ask for it. We're paying for smartness, right? And intuivity!

DISCLAIMER: But not too much, like Apple, where the options are zilch because Steve-o-said-so.

[budwzr]

...The image is about 0.8 pixels smaller but in a weird ratio. Why is it that?

Because you didn't prepare it properly before import or acquisition.

Graphic files have a physical size, and a pixel dimension size. BOTH must correspond to the target destination AFTER all changes are saved. And there's a bunch of other caveats too.

If your paint program doesn't offer "DPI", "Pixel Dimensions", and "Size" controls, then it's no good.

[supercain]

I import the images to png, so i assume they are saved at full quality. Anyway. Does anybody know if its possible to edit an image in place (on the composition tab) ? like for example if i want to erase an image i have to edit it individually in another tab and so i cant see the layer below which is annoying because i dont know what im doing. I googled for it but i couldnt find anything. You can do it in Flash so i assume its possible in AE too, isnt?

Thanks.

[budwzr]

I've never used AE, and I don't know why it's so popular.

But in Vegas, yes, you can edit the media "in place".

Side Note: Vegas and HitFilm are going to share project files natively in the next release coming soon.

[poisondeathray]

I import the images to png, so i assume they are saved at full quality.

Yes PNG is lossless compression

Anyway. Does anybody know if its possible to edit an image in place (on the composition tab) ? like for example if i want to erase an image i have to edit it individually in another tab and so i cant see the layer below which is annoying because i dont know what im doing. I googled for it but i couldnt find anything. You can do it in Flash so i assume its possible in AE too, isnt?

What kind of editing? What kind of "erasing"?

You have to precompose layers so it "looks" like 1 layer to AE , then you can use paint or whatever tool and filters . This includes all filters and effects

If it's only 1 layer without any effects to begin with then you can edit it right there in place

But some tools like paint ( with a brush, clone stamp etc..) requires you to open up in the layer panel (separate from the main comp). If you have enough monitors (or large enough single monitor), you can open up several panels, a main comp panel - so you can see everything together - and the separate layer panel in a different window

[budwzr]

I import the images to png, so i assume they are saved at full quality.

Yes PNG is lossless compression

I meant the sizing, dpi, etc. And whatnot. Like these examples:

[supercain]

Thanks anyone for your advice. So far i have managed to complete the first 2 phases of the sequence. The 1st one being the new logo coming up and the second the falling star. Now, for the 3rd phase im unsure on how to proceed. I need the new logo to morph into the 6 stones. Im using the reshape effect but the only problem is that seems like the effect only applies when an object morphs into another object not 6... What do you recommend?

Thank you.

[poisondeathray]

Thanks anyone for your advice. So far i have managed to complete the first 2 phases of the sequence. The 1st one being the new logo coming up and the second the falling star. Now, for the 3rd phase im unsure on how to proceed. I need the new logo to morph into the 6 stones. Im using the reshape effect but the only problem is that seems like the effect only applies when an object morphs into another object not 6... What do you recommend?

This is more of a creative question regarding the transition, than a technical question of how to do x,y,z...etc...

How did you decide on dividing up your logo ?

Can you upload what you have so far? Did you redo the logo, or redo the star animation, or both? Because the star in your current logo that you showed us is in a different position than the morphed star . That affects how you do the transition

Simple way might be to do a big flash

Or maybe that is your question - how to divide into 6 parts? You set the logo in different composition and mask out the different areas. So in the main comp you have 6 layers (think of them as puzzle pieces), when put together, they look like 1 logo. Since you have 6 different layers making up the main logo, you can animate, break them apart, use different effects etc...

[budwzr]

Use the cookie cutter or Bezier Mask. And make it into six. Then animate the track.

Lazy Man's Solution: Make a PNG snap for every object, and cut them out in Pshop into a PNG w/alfa. Then animate the track.

[budwzr]

@PDR - Did you see the big flash I did over the japanese small lettering? Does that work? Or too rough.

I'd like to see what the OP has so far, to get an idea of the "standard" so far.

[poisondeathray]

@PDR - Did you see the big flash I did over the japanese small lettering? Does that work? Or too rough.

I'd like to see what the OP has so far, to get an idea of the "standard" so far.

I missed it. Which video was it ? The small lettering ? I think he changed it to some other lettering already

I mentioned earlier what plugin was used EXACTLY for that part and for those types of transitions - Trapcode Starglow. Some plugins and effects have a "signature" look that you can recognize. This is one of them

But maybe his goal wasn't to mimic exactly what the old intro was, maybe he wanted to do something slightly different. I have no clue

[budwzr]

Since you missed it, here it is, hahaha. Seriously though, a big flash covers a multitude of sins. Like a flash grenade the cops throw into drug houses.

I just stuck a black square over it in the next frame.

[poisondeathray]

Seriously though, a big flash covers a multitude of sins. Like a flash grenade the cops throw into drug houses.

Haha exactly. Just cover it up

In the original, there isn' t much time allocated to the transition to the 6 stones, so if he wanted to preserve the timing and audio it would have to be something pretty quick

[budwzr]

Hahaha, now when I see a flash of light or sparks in an animation, I'll always wonder if they covered up something.

[poisondeathray]

LOL screw the intro , more EXPLOSIONS . Just blow everything up

[supercain]

Hi,

okay, i did this. First i masked the new logo like this:

https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/40kjc.jpg (its one single mask)

then, i created a new mask and shaped after the stones, which the logo is supposed to morph into, like this:

https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/tc9y3.jpg

And finally i applied the reshape filter with these settings:

https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/6gi3w.gif

but it didnt work. because the last frame looks like this:

https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/IYKgx.jpg

As you may see, the image fits nowhere inside the mask. The weird thing is that the first test i had ran was fine but now it wont work. Could you please tell me what im doing wrong?

Thank you.

[budwzr]

A "Morph" doesn't work unless the two objects are "like-kind", or basically, they have some commonality. Like the old Michael Jackson faces video. All the faces have two eyes, a mouth, etc. So this is where the morphs originate, at these common points of reference.

PDR knows more than me, but I'll give my opinion.

Since you're trying to make one large thing change into four small things, I would create four sections and put them on four tracks, and use some type of whirligig effect, like a swirl, so the disparate images are blended at the peak of the swirl.

[supercain]

But they do have common points of reference. Mask 2 is a copy of mask 1, i just changed the position of the vertices so it should work. Besides i did it once, its just i cant get it like that again.

[budwzr]

But they do have common points of reference. Mask 2 is a copy of mask 1, i just changed the position of the vertices so it should work. Besides i did it once, its just i cant get it like that again.

By "work", I mean "looks natural", hahaha.

I think you're seeing an intermediary frame in your sequence, so look at the keyframing or lack thereof.

I like the way AE lets you define regions within the bezier mask.

[poisondeathray]

I've actually never used reshape before (I use a different plugin), but it looks like you have everything joined. Use a separate layer for each mask. (so they are 6 different objects, 6 different masks for the main logo) . Read what I wrote above about dividing up your logo

When you do morphs, it works smoother and better you have to have analagous vertices e.g. a corner matches up with a corner on the destination morph . So you have to give some planning ahead of time

[poisondeathray]

It looks like you decided to omit the star(s) ? So it's actually 5 objects ?

[supercain]

No, the star is in a separate layer. I guess that both objects have to be in about the same position or the morph wont work right so i had to make the star move where the original one is before starting the morph.

https://forum.videohelp.com/images/imgfiles/tgOw1.jpg

it doesnt look that good either though.

[poisondeathray]

Yes it helps if both the shapes (source & destination morph) are similar with identical vertices (numbers), and in location

It might be partially due to the transition time (it's only a few frames). If you had longer transition, you could probably make it look smoother

One solution would be to redo your logo, to move the big red star closer to where it was in the original logo

For the 5 piece logo, you don't necessarily need 5 separate layers, but you do need 5 separate source masks + 5 destination masks

[budwzr]

What about something toe-tappin', like this:

[poisondeathray]

What about something toe-tappin', like this:

Haha budwzr's seizure inducing intro

[supercain]

For the 5 piece logo, you don't necessarily need 5 separate layers, but you do need 5 separate source masks + 5 destination masks

so i dont need to split the logo into 5 pieces?

[poisondeathray]

For the 5 piece logo, you don't necessarily need 5 separate layers, but you do need 5 separate source masks + 5 destination masks

so i dont need to split the logo into 5 pieces?

Well you have to split into 5 pieces with the masks (closed masks, not open masks), but whether you decide to do it with 5 layers with 5 separate objects or 1 layer is up to you

The primary problem in that screenshot is you're using 1 mask

This plugin looks like it only accepts 1 source, 1 destination mask, so you probably need 5 instances if you use 1 layer

[supercain]

No, i mean if i have to split the logo into 5 separate images and then put them together like a puzzle.

[budwzr]

No, i mean if i have to split the logo into 5 separate images and then put them together like a puzzle.

Yeah, and slide a black panel behind them. That's the ticket. I already have them cut out for you. Note the expert craftsmanship, and the pixel dimensions, also the premultiplied alpha.

[poisondeathray]

No, i mean if i have to split the logo into 5 separate images and then put them together like a puzzle.

You can do that, or use masks the way you're doing it now. What's important is you need 5 closed masks for the source, 5 for the target

The reason why you're getting messed up results is you have 1 mask so there is not clear pathway to morph into 5 separate objects