How to Rip, Edit, and Burn Home Movies

[braveheart3158]

Each VOB has its own audio imbedded in the file itself.

What is it that you are trying to do with these 200 DVD's? Are you trying to make backup copies of them onto hard drives? IF you just want a "copy:, make a folder for each DVD and copy the VIDEO_TS folder in its entirety from its disc to the folder.

If you are trying to copy VOB's to your hard drive and have the VOB's for each movie combined into a single video file (MPG), use VOB2MPG. This and similar utilities will copy and combine video+audio for the main movie only; they don't copy menus and other features. For the extras, you need everything in the VIDEO_TS folder.

If you are trying to copy DVD material to your hard drive and then combine parts of different videos into a new video, or you are trying to cut out certain segments of a movie such as remnving commercials, etc., you need a smart-rendering editor like TMPGenc MPEG Smart Renderer. The new video will have to re-authored and burned to disc if you want a "DVD".

We don't know what you're trying to do with your DVD's.

First I want to say thank you for everones help!! So I am trying to use these VOB files from 200 different DVD's of home video. The DVD's were made a few years ago from all my diffirent media over the years. VHS, Mini VHS and DV camera. I used a VHS to DVD stand alone unit.

What I have done so far
1- Created a folder on my computer for each of the 200 DVD"s. Cronological order.
2- Copied the VOB files from each DVD into the folders on the computer.

Now I want to use all these VOB files in an editing software to make condensed movies. I would like to make the movies on DVD's and may also upload onto the web. Youtube and Vimeo.

My preferance would not be to render these VOB files into mpg with one software and then hae to to use another software for edit if I dont have to. I would prefer to have a edit software program that do that in one shot if possible. Sony Vegus was mentioned as one possibility? Are there others?

[sanlyn]

Editing lossy MPEG as you propose requires a smart-rendering editor that will not re-encode your entire movie and cause a quality loss. An edited MPEG must be re-authored if you want chapters and menus, and burned to disc if you want disc playback in a set top player.

MPEG/DVD is usually interlaced. The same videos for the web are deinterlaced. If a video is submitted for web display as interlaced, the website will deinterlace it in the quickest, cheapest (and destructive) manner available.

We would advise that you permanently archive the movies you copied to hard drive and leave them unaltered. Once you lose your original archive, it's gone forever.

[braveheart3158]

Step 1-Cornutopia had recomended copying the VOB files from my DVD's to my computer (500gigs). I did that.
Step 2- I wanted to be able to use these VOB files at random, in an edit program.
SNAG-No edit program will recognize VOB files.XCEPT Arcsoft Wonder share and showbiz. Which you guys do not recomend.

Option 2- Have a program to convert (wrong word) VOB to to mpg. Or as corutopia (Scott) would say, remove the wrapping. And then use the mpg files in a video edit program with smart rendering. SNAG- The program that is being recomended here, VOB2MPG will not work on my computer after I dowload it.

OPTION 3- Change all the VOB file extensions manually to mpg. SNAG- Not really practicle on 500 gigs of VOB files and according to cornutopia, does not alway work in editing programs.

OPTION 4- Use a edit program that will import VOB files directly from my DVD's. SNAG- It would require me to go thru each of the 200 DVD's again. Also would it be lossless? And which edit program will do this?

So right now I have VOB files on my computer that I can do nothing with. It took me a long time to tranfer all of them from DVD to computer.

Thank you for the replies but please keep it in laymans terms. I am some what of a newbie.

[sanlyn]

Step 1-Cornutopia had recomended copying the VOB files from my DVD's to my computer (500gigs). I did that.
Step 2- I wanted to be able to use these VOB files at random, in an edit program.
SNAG-No edit program will recognize VOB files.XCEPT Arcsoft Wonder share and showbiz. Which you guys do not recomend.

True. We don't.

Option 2- Have a program to convert (wrong word) VOB to to mpg. Or as corutopia (Scott) would say, remove the wrapping. And then use the mpg files in a video edit program with smart rendering. SNAG- The program that is being recomended here, VOB2MPG will not work on my computer after I dowload it.

I don't use that program, but it is often recommended for VOB to MPG copying. I use a different program for that. More info about your computer? From what I see in your profile info, you need more RAM.

OPTION 3- Change all the VOB file extensions manually to mpg. SNAG- Not really practicle on 500 gigs of VOB files and according to cornutopia, does not alway work in editing programs.

That's true. Mine works. See below.

OPTION 4- Use a edit program that will import VOB files directly from my DVD's. SNAG- It would require me to go thru each of the 200 DVD's again. Also would it be lossless? And which edit program will do this?

Try TMPGenc MPEG Smart Renderer v4. That's what I use, along with their earlier versions, for several years. I believe there are some free ones around, but not all of them are frame-specific and will cut only on key frames. TMPGenc is frame-specific (cut on any frame).

Importing VOB to MPG is lossless with program designed for it.

Caution: If you videos have different frame sizes and/or different aspect ratios, be advised that you can't combine MPEG videos having those differences.

[braveheart3158]

Thanks Sanlyn.

I have a new computer. Intel i7 quad-16GB Ram- 80gig SSD + 1T HDD.....TMGenc looks good. But the question still remains. What to use to copy all these VOB files on my computer as MPG files onto my computer?

Caution noted. Thanks

[braveheart3158]

Looked at te videoredo. Looks like that program will do it? http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/showthread.php?5732-What-is-the-best-way-to-join-mul...-DVD-VOB-files http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/showthread.php?5709-Using-quot-combine-quot-to-edit-...Bs-at-one-time

[manono]

I have a new computer. Intel i7 quad-16GB Ram- 80gig SSD + 1T HDD

No one cares and it isn't relevant to the thread.

But the question still remains. What to use to copy all these VOB files on my computer as MPG files onto my computer?

Since the DVD isn't encrypted (just home movies, right?) you can open the VOBs with the DVD in the DVD-ROM and then use MPEG2Cut2 (since you say Vob2MPG doesn't work for some reason) on them to get an MPG onto your computer. Or use MPEG2Cut2 on the VOBs already on the hard drive. The output from MPEG2Cut2 is MPG.

[smrpix]

OPTION 3- Change all the VOB file extensions manually to mpg. SNAG- Not really practicle on 500 gigs of VOB files and according to cornutopia, does not alway work in editing programs.

Use a batch rename utility to quickly change the extensions.

SNAG-No edit program will recognize VOB files.XCEPT Arcsoft Wonder share and showbiz.

Loads up fine in Vegas Movie Studio and Virtualdub here. I'm sure Premiere would have no problem either.

[braveheart3158]

SNAG-No edit program will recognize VOB files.XCEPT Arcsoft Wonder share and showbiz.

Loads up fine in Vegas Movie Studio and Virtualdub here. I'm sure Premiere would have no problem either.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. Just had a chat with Sony. They told me it does not recognize VOB.

[braveheart3158]

I have a new computer. Intel i7 quad-16GB Ram- 80gig SSD + 1T HDD

No one cares and it isn't relevant to the thread.

But the question still remains. What to use to copy all these VOB files on my computer as MPG files onto my computer?

Since the DVD isn't encrypted (just home movies, right?) you can open the VOBs with the DVD in the DVD-ROM and then use MPEG2Cut2 (since you say Vob2MPG doesn't work for some reason) on them to get an MPG onto your computer. Or use MPEG2Cut2 on the VOBs already on the hard drive. The output from MPEG2Cut2 is MPG.

I was asked by sanlyn about my computer..."More info about your computer? From what I see in your profile info, you need more RAM"


I will try MPEG2cut2. Yes just home movies
Thanks

[smrpix]

Interesting. Just had a chat with Sony. They told me it does not recognize VOB.

What can I tell you? Just did it repeatedly in Movie Studio 11

[sanlyn]

SNAG-No edit program will recognize VOB files.XCEPT Arcsoft Wonder share and showbiz.

Not true, as has been mentioned earlier.

Loads up fine in Vegas Movie Studio and Virtualdub here. I'm sure Premiere would have no problem either.

Nor will Vegas or Premiere it find it at all difficult to quickly make raggedy garbage out of your lossy encoded VOBs.

Stepping away from this one, folks. Some project threads can have odd affects, like watching too much bad TV. Jman98, where are you?.