Second/Third LG DVD burner does not work on Vista

[hello_hello]

I'm still curious to know how the PS3 knows if a disc is burned faster than 4x. I've never owned a PS3, but the speed at which a disc is written isn't also written to the disc in any way is it? How would the PS3 know?

I also wonder if the advice to use ImgBurn, often given in threads here, fixes burning problems very often?
Not that I have anything against ImgBurn. I have it installed. I just use Nero 7 mostly because I've used it for years, I'm comfortable with it and it's never given me any software related burning problems I'm aware of. If I had to choose between paying for a newer version of Nero and using ImgBurn, I'd probably use ImgBurn. I'm just not too sure I remember any threads where the OP has returned to say "Hey, I can't burn using software "x", but I can burn correctly using ImgBurn". Then again. I've not been posting here all that long....

[Joe The Dude]

Maybe the laser in the PS3 is somewhat weak, when it switches to DVD-Read Mode.
The 4x burning speed might make deeper, or more well-defined, pits, to compensate for that?

This is just a guess...

I haven't had the need to burn disks for my PS3, as I'm using an HTPC for any movies and shows that I don't have on BluRay, so I can't really help much on the 4x issue, sad to say.

However, I do have some older shows, burned @8x on TY DVD-R, and they playback fine in my Fat PS3 (it's one of the later ones that can't play PS2 Games).
I burned them nearly 5 years ago, way back before I even had a PS3, or a dedicated HTPC.

[hello_hello]

Except the laser doesn't burn pits. It turns otherwise translucent dye opaque, which allows the laser to reflect off the surface beneath, or not, simulating the bumps of a normal pressed disc.

I get what you're saying though, although in theory a burner adjusts laser power according to the burning speed so the end result should be fairly similar whether the disc is burned quickly or slowly (although modern, high speed dyes are possibly optimized to be burned at faster speeds, hence many burners refusing to burn them too slowly). And no disc is burned at the same speed from start to finish. The average 16x burn might start off at 4x, then speed up as the burn progresses, not hitting maximum till right at the end.

I'm, just wondering how the PS3 knows all that (given the OP used the phrase "doesn't support" specifically)..... or whether it just won't play discs burned at faster speeds because the quality of the burn using his particular burner/disc combination isn't all the great.
In all the time I've spent (wasted) posting in various forums over the years, this is the first "PS3 only supports playback of discs burned at 4x" thread I've ever encountered.

[legendster]

I doubt SATA vs PATA is the reason you can't burn at 4x. It seems to be determined by the burner's firmware and the type of disc you're using. Ironically, you may have to use a lower quality disc which the burner doesn't support at higher speeds to burn at 4x.

This is an important bit of advice! Take note of it.

And as many have already said, sometimes burners just don't coexist well on the same cable, or even the same controller.

Buy a SATA burner instead. I'd advise getting an Optiarc 7280s.

I guess you havent read my OP I already said THAT I HAVE A SATA (a new one -) BUT IT DOESNT LET ME WRITE at 4x !!

PS: By Caps I m not implying that I m shouting just pointing out clearly !

Yes I did read the original post and noted that you had one, count it, one SATA drive. If you need 3 drives for some reason, and want to avoid conflicts with the second IDE drive, buy a SECOND SATA drive.

Next, use IMGBURN!

And as a final step, buy some Taiyo Yuden 8x +R dvds, as they are some of the finest blank dvds available. ImgBurn will let you burn them at 4X. Imagine that. Instead of trying to burn some crapola 16x disks at a speed that they don't burn well, you can use a very good Optiarc burner, the very BEST burning software, and the best optical media to accomplish what you want.

GEESH why dont you guys understand ? I tried IMGBURN and MANY OTHER BURNERS but none of them burn at 4x from my SATA DRIVE, I wasted around 5 4gigs DVD's trying to burn them at slower speed, there was this burner which restricted the writer from writing at higher speeds but when I tried to burn with it, that busted my SATA writer and I had to go and get it replaced.
BESIDES this isnt even related to what my question is, my question isnt about buying a 2nd SATA drive that doesnt do what I need, its about finding a solution to the existing problem. and my discs aint Crapola they are Verbatim, and I m from India and they are the best that you get here, If you havent noticed this Writer was able to write a crapola DVD when connected to a different machine..
I told you this is a weird problem.

I m still working on getting an XP live CD and trying to see if I can eliminate Vista from the equation.

[budz]

I doubt SATA vs PATA is the reason you can't burn at 4x. It seems to be determined by the burner's firmware and the type of disc you're using. Ironically, you may have to use a lower quality disc which the burner doesn't support at higher speeds to burn at 4x.

This is an important bit of advice! Take note of it.

And as many have already said, sometimes burners just don't coexist well on the same cable, or even the same controller.

Buy a SATA burner instead. I'd advise getting an Optiarc 7280s.

I guess you havent read my OP I already said THAT I HAVE A SATA (a new one -) BUT IT DOESNT LET ME WRITE at 4x !!

PS: By Caps I m not implying that I m shouting just pointing out clearly !

Yes I did read the original post and noted that you had one, count it, one SATA drive. If you need 3 drives for some reason, and want to avoid conflicts with the second IDE drive, buy a SECOND SATA drive.

Next, use IMGBURN!

And as a final step, buy some Taiyo Yuden 8x +R dvds, as they are some of the finest blank dvds available. ImgBurn will let you burn them at 4X. Imagine that. Instead of trying to burn some crapola 16x disks at a speed that they don't burn well, you can use a very good Optiarc burner, the very BEST burning software, and the best optical media to accomplish what you want.

GEESH why dont you guys understand ? I tried IMGBURN and MANY OTHER BURNERS but none of them burn at 4x from my SATA DRIVE, I wasted around 5 4gigs DVD's trying to burn them at slower speed, there was this burner which restricted the writer from writing at higher speeds but when I tried to burn with it, that busted my SATA writer and I had to go and get it replaced.
BESIDES this isnt even related to what my question is, my question isnt about buying a 2nd SATA drive that doesnt do what I need, its about finding a solution to the existing problem. and my discs aint Crapola they are Verbatim, and I m from India and they are the best that you get here, If you havent noticed this Writer was able to write a crapola DVD when connected to a different machine..
I told you this is a weird problem.

I m still working on getting an XP live CD and trying to see if I can eliminate Vista from the equation.

LOL! You do know that IMGBURN is not a DVD Burner. How difficult is it for you to buy a new IDE cable?
You do know a IDE dvd burner has to be in UDMA mode and not PIO mode. What is that LG Ide set as now in Vista? PIO or UDMA? If it's in PIO mode that's where your problem is. On my XP pc's my IDE drives can burn at 4x in IMGBURN.

[legendster]

I dont know what else you call a software that burns stuff on a DISC (dvd/cd) other than a burner or a burning software ??? !!!!!

Anyways currently I set it to PIO 4 but it was set as UDMA by default. Just like my old PATA writer's default setting.

[budz]

I dont know what else you call a software that burns stuff on a DISC (dvd/cd) other than a burner or a burning software ??? !!!!!

Anyways currently I set it to PIO 4 but it was set as UDMA by default. Just like my old PATA writer's default setting.

Dvd burners should be set to UDMA and not PIO mode. That could be the culprit to your problem.

[legendster]

Its a PATA DVD writer, there are 3 modes there ALL of them are set to auto PIO and UDMA, I manually set the PIO to 4 and now its back to default which is 'Auto" doesnt do an inch of difference, I still didnt get my handson a XP live CD I ll let you guys know when I do.