Avisynth Multi-Threaded Help Needed

[Selur]

Which statement in this script is using yadif? QTGMC at "faster" doesn't use it.

None. Like I wrote 'generated with Hybrid' and Hybrid includes all the plugins QTGMC could use, so no additional adjustment of the Plugins is needed when the QTGMC parameters change.

If holygamer doesn't like the slow speed of plugins like MCTemporalDenoise, he certainly won't like just-as-slow-or-slower QTGMC. You could try the ultra-fast preset, but results aren't quite as slick.

what do you understand as slow? I mean come on, QtGMC + MT + preset 'Faster' isn't slow,..

[jagabo]

I thought de-interlacing a video for viewing on a TV will cause a loss of quality

Deinterlacing always causes some artifacts. But since most displays are now progressive, deinterlacing will be taking place somewhere before you see the video. If you deinterlace before encoding you will forever be stuck with the artifacts created by that deinterlacing. Whereas, if you leave it interlaced, the TV or DVD player will deinterlace for you. The best software deinterlacer (QTGMC) is currently better than any TV/DVD deinterlacer. But the possibility exists that someday TV/DVD deinterlacers will be better than QTGMC.

[Selur]

an additional downside when not interlacing is that normally interlaced encoding is not as efficient as progressive encoding,...

[sanlyn]

I deinterlace regularly for all kinds of intermediate processing, but reinterlace afterward for standard DVD. Also do a lot of IVTC, but restore 3:2 playback for DVD. And often use QTGMC to repair a bad interlace job. I'm talking about tv playback.

[sutha25]

Hi i did have Set' Avisynth 2.5.8MT and it worked wonderfully got the speed as well more then 100FPS with i7 4770k 16GB, now i did have to format my PC so i did that thinking the link would work but now it doesn't work MEDIAFIRE has removed that file so i don't have it anymore i did try others and replaced the DLL in SYSWOW64 and the FPS only coming around 9-15FPS where i was getting 100-125FPS i haven't changed anything eles other the DLL same scripy layout same Filters Dll just ReFormated and lost the avisynth MT version so if any has the set's AVISYNTH MT 2.5.8 please share it

Can some one please Share Set's Avisynth 2.5.8 exe + Avisynth.dll

ATM i have this version of DLL is not MT
http://prntscr.com/351cav

i use to download this file from the thread below
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148117

and i did try this user's file as well
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1412274#post1412274

Can some one please Share Set's Avisynth 2.5.8 MT exe + MT Avisynth.dll Please guys or paste anylink where i can download!!

thanks

[Selur]

Most people will probably (like me) use Avisynth 2.6, since the notice from the thread you linked to stated:

Note: Not maintained anymore, use Avisynth 2.6 builds instead.

and using Avisynth 2.6 MT requires Avisynth 2.6 as basis.

[sutha25]

Most people will probably (like me) use Avisynth 2.6, since the notice from the thread you linked to stated:

Note: Not maintained anymore, use Avisynth 2.6 builds instead.

and using Avisynth 2.6 MT requires Avisynth 2.6 as basis.

i tired avisynth 2.6 but i am getting slow with that when i use i am only getting around 30FPS when i use to get more then 100+ FPS thats why i wanted to go back to avisynth 2.5.8

and all the filter saying is for 2.5.8 is there any other filters for 2.6?

[Selur]

and all the filter saying is for 2.5.8 is there any other filters for 2.6?

there are some filters which require Avisynth 2.6 (since they process or create high bit depth output, see: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/High_bit-depth_Support_with_Avisynth) and there are some filters which got updated versions (like MVTools, MaskTools, NNEDI3, EEDI3, RemoveGrainSSE2, RepairSSE2, dfttest, FFT3DFilter, AddGrainC, VerticalCleanerSSE2, TDeint,..) to better support Avisynth 2.6. (the "Avisynth Extension" from the Hybrid download section contains a small collection of filters which work with Avisynth 2.6 MT. (it also contains the Avisynth 2.6 MT dll&co)
Other than that, normally 2.58 compatible filters can also be used in Avisynth 2.6 without a problem.

i tired avisynth 2.6 but i am getting slow with that when i use i am only getting around 30FPS when i use to get more then 100+ FPS thats why i wanted to go back to avisynth 2.5.8

Don't know of any filter combination which is faster on Avisynth 2.58, especially not by a factor of 3+!
So to me this sound more like you are doing something really wrong,...

[sutha25]

and all the filter saying is for 2.5.8 is there any other filters for 2.6?

there are some filters which require Avisynth 2.6 (since they process or create high bit depth output, see: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/High_bit-depth_Support_with_Avisynth) and there are some filters which got updated versions (like MVTools, MaskTools, NNEDI3, EEDI3, RemoveGrainSSE2, RepairSSE2, dfttest, FFT3DFilter, AddGrainC, VerticalCleanerSSE2, TDeint,..) to better support Avisynth 2.6. (the "Avisynth Extension" from the Hybrid download section contains a small collection of filters which work with Avisynth 2.6 MT. (it also contains the Avisynth 2.6 MT dll&co)
Other than that, normally 2.58 compatible filters can also be used in Avisynth 2.6 without a problem.

thanks for your help i'll try and update the plugin and see if any speed improve sample my script


LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Downloads\You\VIDEO_TS\VT S_01_1.d2v", info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, threads=0)
#deinterlace
crop(0, 56, 0, -56)
LanczosResize(608,256)
fft3dfilter(sigma=1.0, bt=5, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16, sharpen=0.4)
LSFmod( strength=75, smode=3, soothe=true, keep=20, edgemode=0, edgemaskHQ=false)

is my script alrite because this is the same script and same source i used with avisynth 2.5.8 and got more then 100 FPS oh i did add SetMTMode(2) at the top for 2.5.8

[Selur]

oh i did add SetMTMode(2) at the top for 2.5.8

which would easily explain the speed difference,...

[sutha25]

But i tired it with 2.6 as well but it doesn't improve the speed?

[Selur]

looking at your script:

LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Downloads\You\VIDEO_TS\VT S_01_1.d2v", info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, threads=0)
#deinterlace
crop(0, 56, 0, -56)
LanczosResize(608,256)
fft3dfilter(sigma=1.0, bt=5, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16, sharpen=0.4)
LSFmod( strength=75, smode=3, soothe=true, keep=20, edgemode=0, edgemaskHQ=false)

adding MT-calls, I would use:

# set max memory and base MT mode and thread count
SetMemoryMax(768)
SetMTMode(2,0) # change MT mode
# loading plugins and scripts; I don't throw stuff blindly into my avisynth folder so I need to load stuff manually
# you probably won't need this whole part
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\LoadDll.dll") # using this I can avoid copying fft related stuff into my Windows folder
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\ColorMatrix.dll") # used for colormatrix
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\mt_masktools-26.dll") # used in LSFmod
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll") # used in LSFmod
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\warpsharp.dll") # used in LSFmod
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\FFT3DFilter.dll") # for ffd3dfilter
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
LoadDll("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\fftw3.dll") # normally this one has to reside in a Windows subfolder
LoadDll("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\libfftw3f-3.dll") # normally this one has to reside in a Windows subfolder
Import("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\LSFmod.avs")
# loading source
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Downloads\You\VIDEO_TS\VT S_01_1.d2v", info=3)
# colorspace adjustment
ColorMatrix(hints=true, threads=0)
# cropping
crop(0, 56, 0, -56)
#resize
LanczosResize(608,256)
# denoising
FFT3DFilter(sigma=1.0, bt=5, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16, sharpen=0.4)
# sharpening
LSFmod(strength=75, smode=3, soothe=true, keep=20, edgemode=0, edgemaskHQ=false)
return last

personally I would probably use another filter order,...

[Selur]

But i tired it with 2.6 as well but it doesn't improve the speed?

Why should it?
Avisynth 2.58 and Avisynth 2.6 should have the same speed.
Avisynth 2.58 MT and Avisynth 2.6 MT should have the same speed.
-> normally there shouldn't be any speed gain by switching to from 2.58 to 2.6

[sutha25]

libfftw3f-3.dll, fftw3.dll<--there would go on SYSWOW64 because i have x64bit?

ffms2.Dll i don't load that do i need to?

personally I would probably use another filter order,...

Like what other order can you please explain?

This is the source i am working on http://prntscr.com/354fvr

[Selur]

ffms2.Dll i don't load that do i need to?

you don't, I edited the script above.

Like what other order can you please explain?

you used

1. set max memory and base MT mode and thread count
2. loading plugins and scripts
3. loading source
4. colorspace adjustment
5. cropping
6. resize
7. denoising
8. sharpening

I would use the resize as the last option and depending on the source switch sharpening and denoising.

This is the source i am working on http://prntscr.com/354fvr

that is a link to an image not to a video file
->
a. if this isn't just a screenshot using MPEG2Source doesn't make any sense.
b. adjusting filters based on a single screen shot is an endeavor ment to fail.

[sutha25]

Thanks See the Screen shot below 1st image with Setmtmemory + Setmtmode and 2nd without

1ST WITH SETMT MODE
http://prntscr.co4jgn

2ND With out SETMTMOD
http://prntscr.co4joc

[Selur]

a. no clue how good/accrate the benchmark of the frontend you are using is (I would use AVSMeter)
b. try if adding RequestLinear helps:

# set max memory and base MT mode and thread count
SetMemoryMax(768)
SetMTMode(2,0) # change MT mode
# loading plugins and scripts; I don't throw stuff blindly into my avisynth folder so I need to load stuff manually
# you probably won't need this whole part
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\LoadDll.dll") # using this I can avoid copying fft related stuff into my Windows folder
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\ColorMatrix.dll") # used for colormatrix
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\mt_masktools-26.dll") # used in LSFmod
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll") # used in LSFmod
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\warpsharp.dll") # used in LSFmod
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\FFT3DFilter.dll") # for ffd3dfilter
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\TIVTC.dll")
LoadDll("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\fftw3.dll") # normally this one has to reside in a Windows subfolder
LoadDll("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\libfftw3f-3.dll") # normally this one has to reside in a Windows subfolder
Import("E:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\LSFmod.avs")
# loading source
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Downloads\You\VIDEO_TS\VT S_01_1.d2v", info=3)
RequestLinear(rlim=50,clim=50)
# colorspace adjustment
ColorMatrix(hints=true, threads=0)
# cropping
crop(0, 56, 0, -56)
#resize
LanczosResize(608,256)
# denoising
FFT3DFilter(sigma=1.0, bt=5, bw=32, bh=32, ow=16, oh=16, sharpen=0.4)
# sharpening
LSFmod(strength=75, smode=3, soothe=true, keep=20, edgemode=0, edgemaskHQ=false)
return last

Cu Selur

[sutha25]

Please see the Below Pic
http://prntscr.com/354ndx

getting around 190FPS if i remove the FFT3dfilterso how can i replace that dll? is there any updates version on that i am using version 2.1.1

[jagabo]

FFT3DFilter() is just a slow filter. You can try using other noise filters like FluxSmooth(), DegrainMedian(), TTempSmooth(), etc.

[sutha25]

FFT3DFilter() is just a slow filter. You can try using other noise filters like FluxSmooth(), DegrainMedian(), TTempSmooth(), etc.

thanks for the reply JAGabo i did use it with avisynth 2.5.8 MT and it was 100+FPS now i changed to Avisynth 2.6 MT because couldn't find the avisynth.dll for 2.5.8 and is slow now

[Selur]

fft3dfilter is always slow, independent of the Avisynth version.
If you need fft3dfilter, fft3dgpu might also be an alternative, other than that, I would agree that it wouldn't be my denoise filter of choice.
jagabo named some alternatives and there are a lot more: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/External_filters#Denoisers

[sutha25]

fft3dfilter is always slow, independent of the Avisynth version.
If you need fft3dfilter, fft3dgpu might also be an alternative, other than that, I would agree that it wouldn't be my denoise filter of choice.
jagabo named some alternatives and there are a lot more: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/External_filters#Denoisers

thanks guys i don't have GPU graphic card is server

[Selur]

then you would have to switch to another denoiser if fft3dfilter is too slow for you.
(still totally unclear if Avisynth 2.58 really is faster than Avisynth 2.6 in your setup)

[sutha25]

then you would have to switch to another denoiser if fft3dfilter is too slow for you.
(still totally unclear if Avisynth 2.58 really is faster than Avisynth 2.6 in your setup)

yea it was i used the same FFT3D with it and it was more then 100+FPS don't know how i got it but then i have to reformatted so i lost it

[Selur]

probably different settings or a different source,...

[sutha25]

probably different settings or a different source,...

do you know where i can download the avisynth 2.5.8 + avisynth.dll?

[jagabo]

probably different settings or a different source,...

do you know where i can download the avisynth 2.5.8 + avisynth.dll?

The main direct download link at this site is to 2.5.8.
https://www.videohelp.com/download/Avisynth_258.exe

[sutha25]

probably different settings or a different source,...

do you know where i can download the avisynth 2.5.8 + avisynth.dll?

The main download link at this site is to 2.5.8.
https://www.videohelp.com/download/Avisynth_258.exe

yea but not the MultiTheard edition

[Selur]

Avisynth 2.5.8 comes with an avisynth.dll and the last 2.5.8 MT version I saw was https://code.google.com/p/avisynth-mt/downloads/list

yea but not the MultiTheard edition

then use a proper wording and ask for the MT version if you are looking for the MT version.

[sutha25]

Avisynth 2.5.8 comes with an avisynth.dll and the last 2.5.8 MT version I saw was https://code.google.com/p/avisynth-mt/downloads/list

then use a proper wording and ask for the MT version if you are looking for the MT version.

Oh sorry for my English guys i apologizes for that...and with the link that comes with i don't need to replace the avisynth.dll?

i was really hoping that some one would have Set's Avisynth.dll and share