Hybrid(Windows/Linux/Mac): Input -> x264/x265/Xvid/VP8/VP9

[Gravitator]

Service Windows Audio (AudioSrv) manages audio devices for Windows-based programs. If this service is stopped, audio devices and effects will not function properly. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start .
Especially often above the fault with the sound happens when you install / reinstall Windows XP, when the motherboard drivers are installed automatically . So - if a problem occurs - it is recommended to install them manually - separately for each device - via a dialog box Device Manager.
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It seems that the built-in controller MS does not miss the sounds / blocks the driver.
> In the Device Manager tab "Sound, video and game controllers" to remove Intel display audio and Realtek HD audio. (look at your sound card);
>> Open the tab "System devices" and remove High Definition audio controller - in times Win XP helped me
Reload this laptop.
Then install Intel display audio (find and download driver Intel ® HD Graphics and Intel Graphics Media Accelerator online Intel) and driver Realtek HD audio. (look at your sound card).

[Selur]

wrong thread? that doesn't seem like it has anything to do with Hybrid,..

[Gravitator]

Apologies...
How to delete a post? This button can not see

[Selur]

iirc you can't delete posts

[Kartmadol]

iirc you can't delete posts

When will be the next version of Hybrid appear?
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https://raw.githubusercontent.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/master/Changelog
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For software developers: <br><br>Next (v. 2.3) FFMPEG will support DXVA2 decoding to accelerate the video transcoding!!!<br><br>

What do you think, Will it increase the transcoding speed?

[Gravitator]

FFMPEG will support DXVA2 decoding to accelerate the video transcoding!!!

Привет!
Here is wonderful! Without a doubt we get boost encoding speed (will be especially useful for UHD and video editing)

[Selur]

FFMPEG will support DXVA2 decoding to accelerate the video transcoding!!!

Sounds nice we will see if it really does help with transcoding once it is released.

Also in Hybrid, in most cases it will probably not help when Avisynth is used, because when Avisynth is used ffmpeg is normally only used for audio decoding.

When will be the next version of Hybrid appear?

Probably in a few days atm. I'm waiting for feedback from two users regarding Avisynth problems on their systems and I'd like to have that fixed before the next release.
+ I also need to think some more about:
a. dropping DivX265 with ' -aqo 5' support since like Graviator reported it does seem to break mp4 muxing
b. whether the next version will support x265s "--psy-rd" since that seems to introduce artifacts atm.

Cu Selur

[Gravitator]

Encoding to ProRes...
filtering > avisynth: RGBAdjust - on / off; then we obtain the curve shown in the beginning of the file.

[Selur]

Works here. Judging by the image there is some sort of color space mix-up.

[Gravitator]

Well, when the version with x265 Psy-RD let out

[Selur]

problems seems to be related to y4m input

[Gravitator]

v2014.05.26.1 - Still present anomaly;
filtering > avisynth: RGBAdjust - on / off; the output is a thicker file 10sec/13mb vs 11sec/15.6mb

[Selur]

I'm totally unclear how I should interpret what you write.
I used the akiyo_cif.y4m as input and reencoded with the version I send you a link to.
With Avisynth and 'RGBAdjust on' / 'RGBAdjust off' and without Avisynth:


without Avisynth:

ffmpeg -y -r 30000/1001 -i "H:\akiyo_cif.y4m" -an -sn -threads 8 -vsync 0 -r 30000/1001 -pix_fmt yuv422p10le  -vcodec prores_aw -f mov "H:\Output\withoutAvisynth_10_25_54_9010_01.mov"

with Avisynth and RGBAdjust on:

mencoder -lavdopts threads=8 -really-quiet -of rawvideo -o - -ovc raw -vf scale,format=i420,scale,format=422p -forcedsubsonly -nosub -nosound -mc 0 "H:\Temp\encodingTempAvisynthSkript_10_26_34_5610.avs" | ffmpeg -y -pix_fmt yuv422p -s 352x288 -f rawvideo -i - -threads 8 -vf swapuv -r 29.97 -vcodec prores_aw -f mov "H:\Output\withRGBAdjust_on_10_26_34_5610_02.mov"

SetMemoryMax(768)
SetMTMode(3,0) # change MT mode
LoadPlugin("G:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RawSource26.dll")
# loading source
SetMTMode(5) # change MT mode
RawSource("H:\AKIYO_~1.Y4M")
# color modifications
SetMTMode(2) # change MT mode
ConvertToRGB(interlaced=false, matrix="PC.601")
RGBAdjust(1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,analyze=false,dither=false)
ConvertToYv12(interlaced=false, matrix="PC.601")
distributor()
return last

with Avisynth and RGBAdjust off:

mencoder -lavdopts threads=8 -really-quiet -of rawvideo -o - -ovc raw -vf scale,format=i420,scale,format=422p -forcedsubsonly -nosub -nosound -mc 0 "H:\Temp\encodingTempAvisynthSkript_10_27_08_6910.avs" | ffmpeg -y -pix_fmt yuv422p -s 352x288 -f rawvideo -i - -threads 8 -vf swapuv -r 29.97 -vcodec prores_aw -f mov "H:\Output\withRGBAdjust_off_10_27_08_6910_02.mov"

SetMemoryMax(768)
SetMTMode(3,0) # change MT mode
LoadPlugin("G:\Hybrid\avisynthPlugins\RawSource26.dll")
# loading source
SetMTMode(5) # change MT mode
RawSource("H:\AKIYO_~1.Y4M")
distributor()
return las

Each time the output plays fine here. Attached the reencoded files.

Cu Selur

Ps.: The akiyo_cift.y4m I used is from Derf's Test Media Collection

[Gravitator]

watch

[Selur]

I did the same things you did and got two files (Output.7z) which are both not broken.
To make sure the problem is not related to some difference with the Avisynth filters, I also attached my avisynthPlugins-folder and the files that go along with it. (avisynthExtension.7z)

[Gravitator]

I did the same things you did and got two files (see attachment) which are both not broken.

We are not talking about the quality of the image (corrected). Why different sizes!?

[Selur]

We are not talking about the quality of the image (corrected).

No, at least I was talking about the problem you mentioned in post #908

Why different sizes!?

1 -> decoded by ffmpeg
2 -> decoded by Avisynth&mencoder
different decoders, different output

[Gravitator]

1 -> decoded by ffmpeg
2 -> decoded by Avisynth&mencoder
different decoders, different output

What decoder is more accurate?
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Still possible > akiyo_cif.y4m > enc (ProRes)> Test.mov l next l Test.mov> enc (ProRes)> Test2.mov - get broken

[Selur]

Still possible > akiyo_cif.y4m > enc (ProRes)> Test.mov l next l Test.mov> enc (ProRes)> Test2.mov - get broken

not surprised by that since I never tried to reencode ProRes content with Hybrid (I only create ProRes content if I need to feed something into an NLE).

What decoder is more accurate?

don't know, since I never compared them

[Gravitator]

It turns out that Avisynth not subject to the conditions tick off and continues to use Avisynth&mencoder instead of FFMPEG
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Now we'll look at optimal lossless coder

akiyo_cif.rar - 19,4mb
akiyo_cif.7z - 8,98mb

[Selur]

It turns out that Avisynth not subject to the conditions tick off and continues to use Avisynth&mencoder instead of FFMPEG

I know.

Now we'll look at optimal lossless coder

Nothing to do with Hybrid, but to me it looks like you didn't use the best setting for 'rar', using 'rar5'&best should be more like 11MB not 19MB.

[Gravitator]

using 'rar5'&best

Here is the news! Really improved parameters
I Go vaunted Psy-RD testing

[Kartmadol]

[QUOTE=Selur;2324028]

quote.

Hi!

There are only two options to choose ffmpeg and avisynth in Hybrid. However you can choose directshow/VFW system codecs as output in Mediacoder. Why does Hybrid support only that two output options?

[Selur]

• Hybrid uses mencoder/mplayer, ffmpeg, avisynth.
• Hybrid is mainly ment as a cross-plattform tool and DirectShow filters and vfw (Video for Windows) are Windows only, also:
  • DirectShow filters are normally not aiming for frame-by-frame decoding, which make them 'instable' when you use them as source for filters which request frame in a non-linear matter
  • really is old and not that suited for newer container formats, which is why even traditionally vfw-centered tools like Virtual Dub added code to support external encoders and muxers
  • some people trash their system by installing some codec packs which mess up their directshow and vfw filters&co and thus all tools which rely on them -> not really eager to join that club of tools

Cu Selur

[Kartmadol]

• Hybrid uses mencoder/mplayer, ffmpeg, avisynth.
• Hybrid is mainly ment as a cross-plattform tool and DirectShow filters and vfw (Video for Windows) are Windows only, also:
  • DirectShow filters are normally not aiming for frame-by-frame decoding, which make them 'instable' when you use them as source for filters which request frame in a non-linear matter
  • really is old and not that suited for newer container formats, which is why even traditionally vfw-centered tools like Virtual Dub added code to support external encoders and muxers
  • some people trash their system by installing some codec packs which mess up their directshow and vfw filters&co and thus all tools which rely on them -> not really eager to join that club of tools

Cu Selur

Hello Selur!

1. I knew.
2. Hybrid would be not the first cross-platform application, which has little bit different service in different OP.systems
3.Nobody suggested to use directshow co4.decs as input/source decoder, I suggested only as optional coder (output)
4.I know that directshow is old, but you can use its codecs in new container formats (Mediacoder is an excellent example for that)
5."some people trash their system by installing some codec packs " They will or won't install that codecs packs on their systems, it is their own volition and responsibility, so in this case it does not matter that they use Hybrid or not. Why? You do not need provide and propagate the installation of any codec-packs, you can give the possibility if they installed these codec packs than they can use them for OWN RISK. You can write a very short 1 sentence caution/notice about their "own risk" when they choose these codecs.

Bye!

[Selur]

Regarding MediaCoder:
As far as I know MediaCoder is by no means a cross-plattform tool it simply can be run through Wine/Darwine, but that is true for most other tools, too. (iirc a few years ago a native Linux version was planned, but never saw the light of day)


Regarding the codec packs:
The problem is tracing the problem to the installation of such a pack. Atm. Hybrid should be as system independent as possible and thus codec packs&co are nothing I have to think about when people report problems.

Regarding DirectShow for encoding:
Would that really be worth the effort, afaik there are only a rare few free DirectShow encoders out there.

Regarding vfw:
Problem with vfw encoders it that either you have to rely on the vfw configuration dialogs and the users not messing up, or you have to write special code for each encoder.
What vfw encoders would be worth the effort?
(regarding vfw decoding: using mplayers binary codecs and codec.conf file a lot of vfw decoders could be used to decode stuff that otherwise couldn't be decoded)

-> Do you thing Hybrid is lacking something specific? (don't think a general vfw/DirectShow support will come any time soon)

Cu Selur

Ps.: I did think about supporting vfw encoders through avs2avi a while back, problem is on Windows Vista and newer avs2avi only works properly when called with administration rights and I really don't like the idea to run tools with admin rights, which from my point of view should not need them.

[DarrellS]

Ps.: I did think about supporting vfw encoders through avs2avi a while back, problem is on Windows Vista and newer avs2avi only works properly when called with administration rights and I really don't like the idea to run tools with admin rights, which from my point of view should not need them.

That is my biggest issue with Windows 7. Even though you are the only user, Windows refuses to give you full control of your system (for your own good). You can install TakeOwnership and use it for ever file and folder on your computer and hope it works but sadly, for some programs it just doesn't work and no means of sharing and ownership rights in Windows 7 will help. I have a scanner software (Paperport) that I've used for years and even the newer versions work fine with 32 bit XP (98SE or W2000 for that matter) but with Windows 7 (Vista or XP 64bit), watermarks are created on all of PDF files which is the default file type for scanning or print to file in Paperport. PDF files that were created before switching to Windows 7 seem to be fine but all PDF files created under Windows 7 have these DocuCom PDF Trial www.pdfwizard.com watermarks with no way to get rid of them. Both MS and Nuance give instructions on how to fix the problem by giving yourself permission to alter files and reinstalling Paperport but it does not work and of coarse, Nuance blames Microsoft (which they should) for the problem and neither can come up with a fix for a problem that has been going on since MS started releasing 64 bit operating systems.

[Selur]

Hmm,.. when I connect via RDP to my machine I don't have to run avs2avi as admin -> will do further investigation next week

[KaddirB]

I have a question on Hybrid: (Avisynth) (Sharpening) i see LimitedSharpenFaster / FineSharpen how do i add Warsharpen Awarsharpen in there or is that not posible please tell me Tnx in advance.

[Selur]

Hybrid does not allow to manually modify the avisynth script, so if you want aWarpsharp as an additional Sharpener only (reasonable) way for this to happen is me adding support for it. (if there is interest in it I can add it; it's not much work)