Hybrid(Windows/Linux/Mac): Input -> x264/x265/Xvid/VP8/VP9

[Selur]

just as a though: have you checked the cbr/vbr thing with another tool? (wouldn't recommend to always trust only on MediaInfo)

[Leo99]

just as a though: have you checked the cbr/vbr thing with another tool? (wouldn't recommend to always trust only on MediaInfo)

No, haven't try yet, never use other than MediaInfo. If you believe not to trust, please let me know the other tools.

[Selur]

iirc. ffplay, mplayer, ffdshow can all show the actual bit rate during playback (sometimes the debug level might need adjustment)

[Leo99]

I don't have both ffplay and mplayer, while ffdshow encoders only, but do not know how to see it.
I like MediaInfo precisely because they can be opened without the players have to run.

[Selur]

Problem with mediainfo is that it only reads headers and some times the first few bytes of a file and MediaInfo had a lot of problems detecting aac related content properly in the past so I'm always a bit skeptic if it comes to mediainfo.Regarding bit rates and frame rates judging a file from the first few bytes often doesn't show precise infos.
-> since you don't want to analyse the file, this is probably as precise as you can get, but saying an encoder makes a mistake based just on mediainfos output is a bad ide

[Leo99]

Yeah ... I use MediaInfo due to practical only - general use but fast to open! No need to be perfect for the details data.

[Selur]

Yes, it's nice to check stuff that is defined through the headers and where normally the headers are right.

[Gravitator]

Rename MP4box.exe > open hybrid > put the movie on encoding(add job)> error(MP4Box version seems to be too old to handle MPEG-4 AVC content) > returns the name of the default >add job> same goes message(error....)

File Scanner has not updated the changes

[Selur]

a. no clue why you rename mp4box.exeb. if you exchange versions in Hybrid you need to clear the tool change (Config->Tools->Clear ...)

[Gravitator]

no clue why you rename

then I get a clean HEVC in a temporary folder ( himself to pack in a container)

[Selur]

THe mp4box binary which comes with Hybrid should already support HEVC muxing,....-> no clue what you are doing

[Gravitator]

THe mp4box binary which comes with Hybrid should already support HEVC muxing,....-> no clue what you are doing

then superimpose audio tracks and mixes (through mkvmerge)

[Selur]

official mkvmerge doesn't support muxing hevc content to mkv atm., so to do that in Hybird you need to replace mkvmerge, mkvinfo, mkvextract with the versions from ROVI

[Gravitator]

so to do that in Hybird you need to replace mkvmerge, mkvinfo, mkvextract with the versions from ROVI

replaced, but still requires

[Selur]

did you clear the tools cache? otherwise Hybrid doesn't realize that you changed it,..

[Gravitator]

did you clear the tools cache?

not obtained (W7x64,v2013.12.06.2)

[Selur]

Can't really follow you there, but send you a link to a more recent development version for testing.

[Gravitator]

Can't really follow you there, but send you a link to a more recent development version for testing.

Thank you! turned Now do not have tormented

[deadrats]

Can't really follow you there, but send you a link to a more recent development version for testing.

so what's new on the horizon for hybrid?

[Selur]

did some refactoring in the background to a. make the code 'nicer' and b. speed up the startUp a tiny bit
mainly a bunch of small bug fixes, see: http://forum.selur.de/topic22-infos-about-fixed-bugs-etc-in-the-next-release.html
I'm also waiting for feedback from a bunch of users regarding the development version. (for Windows I switched to Qt 5.2)
I also spend a lot of time trying to compile recent mplayer/mencoder versions with libass, libbluray,.. on Mac OS and failed and since it seems no one seems to create up-to-date mencoder&mplayer builds for Mac OS X, I'm thinking about dropping Mac OS X support.

Other than that, since there haven't been any interesting feature request (looked into Microsofts H.264 encoder, but since there isn't a cli encoder available it's not really interessting). Looked into q264 and QSTranscode both look interesting. (QSTranscode doesn't support pipe in, q264 does but is rather large with 45MB, so if I code q264 support, I won't ship it with Hybrid)

Cu Selur

[Gravitator]

DivX player does not play HEVC in a container .mp4 (release version of their ROVI-mkvmerge)

[Selur]

That simply shows how 'good' DivX Player is.

[Gravitator]

when hybrid starts to encode video on the Internet? collective

[Selur]

What do you mean with 'encode video on the Internet' ?
Do you mean encoding over a network (= distributed encoding) like RipBot264 does?
Do you mean downloading stuff from youtube&co and convert that?
Do you mean converting stuff and automatically upload it to youtube or similar?

[Gravitator]

What do you mean with 'encode video on the Internet' ?
Do you mean encoding over a network (= distributed encoding) like RipBot264 does?

Load distribution on all hybrid users (volunteers)? Is it possible to apply for HEVC?

[Selur]

Distributed encoding, isn't planned for the foreseeable future.
(distributed encoding should be possible independent of the used target format)

[deadrats]

q264 does but is rather large with 45MB, so if I code q264 support, I won't ship it with Hybrid

you should add support with instructions on where they can download the needed binary for q264.

i do have a question for you. why is it you use vpxenc for vp8/9 encoding instead of ffmpeg? every app that i have tried that uses vpxenc for vp9 encoding fails big time on my system yet ffmpeg does the job just fine.

just wondering.

[Selur]

you should add support with instructions on where they can download the needed binary for q264.

that's probably what I will do

i do have a question for you. why is it you use vpxenc for vp8/9 encoding instead of ffmpeg?

That's simple:

• I first used vpxenc before ffmpeg support for vpx was working and for me it works fine (if you want to get to the bottom of why vpxenc using Hybrid fails for you, send me a debug output and I will look into it of the whole process that fails for you)
• compiling ffmpeg with all the dependencies that might be supported by Hybrid is a pain for most users and since I don't know for sure that the Linux users have the knowledge to compile ffmpeg themselves I try to keep the ffmpeg requirements to a minimum.
  Problem is I don't have the knowledge, time&motivation to setup a build script or similar that:
  • will work on most linux distributions (static compilation is not really possible on linux to my knowledge since some libraries are system bound and not ment to be compiled statically)
  • include most of the dependencies Hybrid supports
  • clean up after itself, so that it doesn't consume tons of additional hdd space even after compilation and can be properly removed again

Cu Selur

[Selur]

btw. just updated Hybrid to rev 2014.01.21.1.

[SuperNoob28]

I cannot open my hybrid app. Is there something like a pre-requisite for this app?I've been uninstalling it and re-installing but still a no go.