Hybrid(Windows/Linux/Mac): Input -> x264/x265/Xvid/VP8/VP9

[deadrats]

http://labs.divx.com/node/127927

am i misinterpreting the above? does it not sound like they are getting ready to release an updated version?

[Selur]

nice, did miss that, last thing I heard was that an update was unlikely, still there will probably only updates while there is a beta version. (They also released a DivX264 CLI BETA encoder back in the days and no normal CLI standalone encoder only they release it officially,..)
if they release a new beta (and I don't miss it ), I'll adjust Hybrid to support it.

[Selur]

btw. good news for the Mac folks: both x265 8bit and x265 16bit now compile on Mac OS X 10.6.8
General bad new: current release fumbles for high bit depth encodes -> will be fixed for the next release. (got it fixed locally, if someone is burning to try it, send me a pm with your OS and I will compile and send you a link to a test version)

[deadrats]

looks like it's time to update your app:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/360069-x265-HEVC-Encoder?p=2285410&viewfull=1#post2285410

[Selur]

maybe later today (busy atm. so not sure if I find the time)

[Selur]

uploaded a new version, sadly the Mac version still lacks up-to-date mplayer, mencoder and mkvtoolnix versions.

[deadrats]

i know you just released an updated version of your updated version to fix some bugs (version 12.5) but i thought you should know that the new divxh265 cli was released 2 days ago:

http://labs.divx.com/

so...happy updating.

edit, i'm definitely waiting for you to implement this new version, check out what it supports:

What's new:

• Improved encoding efficiency
  New options:
  -aqo [1-4] specifies one of the 4 encoding modes: 1 - fastest, 2 - balanced (default) 3 - higher quality (experimental) 4- highest quality (experimental)
  -F turns off scene change detection, results in fixed intervals between keyframes
  --no-wpp turns off Wavefront Parallel Processing
  --start [frame_number] allows encoding from [frame_number] frame
  
  

[Selur]

download doesn't work for me I just get a new page stating: OK
-> seems like I'm not the only one, see: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1656677#post1656677
got a copy -> adjusted local version -> next release will support latest DivX265 version

[deadrats]

odd, i downloaded it just fine. here you go:

[Selur]

Got it from another user already and like I wrote, modified the development version to support it, so the next release will also support it.

[deadrats]

the next version will support all the new features, like enable/disable wpp and the speed/quality presets?

[Selur]

You are mixing up stuff.
DivX265 got no speed/quality presets. x265 does and Hybrid already supports them.

Regarding DivX265, the new options are:

• setting the max gop size (--interval) to 1-5 seconds
• setting fixed gop size (--fixed-gop-length), this basically disables any dynamic gop sizes
• ability to disable wpp ( Wavefront Parallel Processing) which otherwise is enabled by default
• selecting the adaptive quantization optimization algorithm (--aqo)
• there's also '--frames', but Hybrid will not use that option since restricting the source range is something that Hybrid does in the decoder call

-> All the Hybrid relevant options will be supported.

Cu Selur

Ps.: all in all, I'm wondering why the DivX folks only offer so little options to the user.

[deadrats]

i'm not mixing anything up, right from the divx website:

http://labs.divx.com/divx265

-aqo [1-4] specifies one of the 4 encoding modes: 1 - fastest, 2 - balanced (default) 3 - higher quality (experimental) 4- highest quality (experimental)

sounds to me like their version of a speed/quality preset.

as for why there are so few options, the answer should be obvious: divx bought out main concept years ago and rovi bought out divx. the rovi/mc total code app costs anywhere between $1000 and i think $1500 depending on the version and the sdk that supports hevc also costs big bucks and remember, this is a per seat licensing fee.

the divx hevc encoder is free, they would be stupid to give you anywhere near the total number of options in their free offering. the divx offering is the free sample, to get the general public to use the rovi hevc encoder, like it and then buy apps that use the high dollar sdk.

now how about you supply your buddy 'rats with a test version of hybrid once you have all the new divx options incorporated?

[Selur]

now how about you supply your buddy 'rats with a test version of hybrid once you have all the new divx options incorporated?

will send you a link via pm, like I wrote, I already incorporated the support for the new options.
-> uploaded new public version

[Leo99]

Selur, is Hybrid able to convert a DVD video? If it can, but how.. and which files should I input?
As we know in a DVD there are so many files such as VIDEO_TS.BUP/IFO/VOB, VTS_01_0.BUP/IFO/VOB etc.. I don't know what files should be chosen so that the whole movie can be converted.

[Selur]

Selur, is Hybrid able to convert a DVD video?

Assuming the DVD is not copyprotected yes.
Simply enable DVD-Input and select the DVD folder.

[deadrats]

@Selur: there seems to be a weird bug with Hybrid and x265 and sometimes it manifests itself with x264.

basically if i launch Hybrid and set an encoding job, the job is completed fine and the output is fine.

but if i then want to test a different combination of settings and simply go back, change the settings and try to start another job as soon as x265 is supposed to be launched and fed the encode Hybrid gives a message that x265 crashed and the job is aborted. this happens primarily x265 though it happened once or twice with x264. oddly enough it does not happen with the divxh265 encoder. if i shut down Hybrid completely and restart it fresh then all the encodes work fine.

this bug actually took me a long time to figure out what was happening as at first i thought it only happened with interlaced sources that where being de-interlaced, then i thought that maybe it was only certain combinations of settings.

i've also noticed something else i don't understand, under the "decoding" options "flip raw rgb" is checked by deafult, why is that?

also, under the audio encoding tab, i only have the option to encode to aac-lc but on mouse over Hybrid claims that he and hev2 should also be available.

[Selur]

this bug actually took me a long time to figure out what was happening as at first i thought it only happened with interlaced sources that where being de-interlaced, then i thought that maybe it was only certain combinations of settings.

Without a debut output and/or some detailed explanation how to reproduce it I can't really do anything about it. Can't fix stuff I can't reproduce. The current description you provided is not concrete enough for me to reproduce the problem.

i've also noticed something else i don't understand, under the "decoding" options "flip raw rgb" is checked by deafult, why is that?

Because from my experience it was required to do this to get a proper result. Since RGB input is rather uncommon, I haven't got much feedback about it, so it stays the way I set it last time I encountered RGB input.

also, under the audio encoding tab, i only have the option to encode to aac-lc but on mouse over Hybrid claims that he and hev2 should also be available.

The availability of what aac encoding modes are available depends ont the aac encoder that is chosen. Not all AAC encoders support all modes. FAAC for example only supports LC-AAC.


Cu Selur

[Leo99]

Assuming the DVD is not copyprotected yes.
Simply enable DVD-Input and select the DVD folder.

Ohh great... I just know it that small box to be checked, thank you

[deadrats]

@Selur

any change of adding support for microsoft's h264 encoder:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd797816%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

[Selur]

Oh, didn't know about that one. Is there a command line interface for this somewhere?

[Leo99]

microsoft's h264..? Hm..too late, Microsoft is always late in supporting something new from the world of open source.. now even been released H.265

[Leo99]

Oh, didn't know about that one. Is there a command line interface for this somewhere?

But it supports for Win 7/8 only, WinXP not..!

[Selur]

on the other hand, Windows XP is hopefully going to vanish fast starting this April,..
But no worry, unless someone writes a CLI (command line interface) for this, which supports raw yv12/y4m input, I will not look further into adding it to Hybrid, so you will probably not miss anything.

[Leo99]

Selur,
When I choose audio QAAC encoding in your Hybrid is always result of Variable, whereas 'CBR mode' selected. Anything wrong on CoreAudioToolbox.dll of mine?

Look here:




So, what the hell people like using VBR over CBR, what better use in a Video? I can't see any real difference, just different in filesize alone..just slightly.
Can you tell which one is better?

[Gravitator]

QAAC - works only in ABR/VBR mode

[Selur]

a. if cbr <> vbr is a bug in Hybrid simply check the command line call of the audio job (disable "Jobs->Minimize job command lines" to do so)
b. for the same size vbr delivers better quality than cbr

[Selur]

@Graviator: the author or qaac seems not to disagree:

Main options:--formats              Show available AAC formats and exit
-a, --abr <bitrate>    AAC ABR mode / bitrate
-V, --tvbr <n>         AAC True VBR mode / quality [0-127]
-v, --cvbr <bitrate>   AAC Constrained VBR mode / bitrate
-c, --cbr <bitrate>    AAC CBR mode / bitrate
                       For -a, -v, -c, "0" as bitrate means "highest".
                       Highest bitrate available is automatically chosen.
                       For LC, default is -V90
                       For HE, default is -v0

see: https://github.com/nu774/qaac/wiki/Command-Line-Options

[Gravitator]

So, what the hell people like using VBR over CBR, what better use in a Video? I can't see any real difference, just different in filesize alone..just slightly.
Can you tell which one is better?

CBR - This is when you drag an empty safe, thinking that it was full of money (is a waste of time/effort on the coding of emptiness)
VBR - there is money (your work is rewarded)

[Leo99]

@Selur, thanks for the info.. just know that vbr is better than cbr.

@Gravitator, Okay, I understand now.. this adds to my knowledge, thank you. And strangely I've tried various of neroAac, fhgaac, faac (incl MainConcept AAC), in addition they all supports both VBR and CBR, but when choosing to CBR they can make it Constant (I don't know is it better quality or not ). I think those 4 developers were certainly not stupid all.. right?

Okay, so maybe the willingness of Apple as the original developer of AAC, where they assume vbr is better than cbr.. that's OK, I can accept it, but with little bit wonder why the others can make it constant....